Yeah but the end user doesn't give a shit. Nobody visiting the uk from the eu is going to ask a restaurant if their meat is eu certified before ordering. It's only jobsworthy over protectiveness
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Nah don't worry about it mate. The cheese is good trust me bro
The end user hasn't had to give a shit because the rules have been in place for so long and have normalised how businesses must act across borders. The idea a regulation is just a tick box on a piece of paper is plainly wrong. And people from the EU coming to the UK will care about the quality of products if you lot become the dumping ground for imitation, harmful, inferior products.
That is why "remainers" have bleated on about the stupidness of brexit for so long. In the end you have to comply with the same rules as trading partners because business wants continuity in trading rules. Brexit took a seamless customs union and imposed needless regulation on the UK to meet those standards.
The reality of brexit is that you took something that wasn't broken, broke it, and then realised you had to rebuild it for yourselves because it actually benefited you. The unfortunate consequence being, to fix it, you're asking everyone else to pay for the repairs whilst people like Mogg stand on the sidelines trying to make things even worse.
But the end user would worry if there was something wrong with the product and there was no traceability - it could have come from the EU or from Outer Mongolia, who knows?
Possibly, or more likely probably not, the Uk will import the same food from outside the EU. The point is neither the UK or the EU is guaranteed that the other's products complies with their regulations because they are not using the same regulations and there is no recourse other than court proceedings or sanctions if something does go wrong. Each party has to treat the other party the same.
The Uk have signed a really bad deal with Australia which effectively allows Australia to do what they like and undercut British farmers. Their produce should have all the certification and tests etc but as it takes weeks or months for the products to reach the destination there is plenty of time to deal with the paperwork.
Shipping to or from the EU takes a day or two and thus there is no time.
Now Uk exporters have tried to ship to Australia but found that the red tape to ship to Australia is horrendous.
But it's not just food. Whatever is exported has to comply with regulations of the country of destination. So wherever the Uk export to, they are not "in control" - if they don't meet the criteria of the country they are exporting to then they can't export to them. And this has to work both ways with no favouritism outside any trade agreement.
Under the Rees-Mogg model, he is a scoundrel and think's he's doing something good for the UK, but he doesn't understand the consequences and is in fact slowly destroying their trade and reputation.
Exactly - or does everyone fancy eating horse meat again?
Really? Would you want your meat to potentially be a way lower standard than before?
No one should need to ask that because it should be a basic requirement for your food to be good quality, and before we shot our selves in the foot had no need to worry.
It's an interesting take on unverified/unchecked imported products, that will probably vary from end user to end user.
Would you mind to be a consumer of unchecked cheese? Meat? Phones? Cars? Airplanes? Dializers?
I don't give a crap where the product is coming from because I got used to be in a society that has regulations, tests and compliance that protects me of any harm. Lift those regulations, stop having checks, start having food poisoning potentially killing people or other problems in other products and you'll see how rapidly people will start checking origins in the labels and ask in restaurants
Moronic take, as usual
I really do not care. I'm happy to smuggle my own meats and cheeses in when I go back home, nobody checks it and I'm not dead yet. Its also way cheaper than buying it here imported. And someone mentioned horse meat, well you can get that here if you want.
What interest is there for a seller to give poisoned foods? I assume you've never been to a poor country and eaten anything, if you have, did you question the origin of what you were eating?
Lots of manufacturers recall stuff all the time, cars, phones and planes. They all seem to pass safety guidelines somewhere
"Manufacturers recall stuff all the time" is a brave argument to use in defense of the position that safety guidelines don't matter.
Er.... I don't know if you are trolling with this question but I'll bite. Food poisoning doesn't mean poison your food silly, it means that the food is such a low quality that it can cause food poisoning. Do you know what food poisoning is? look it up
And I travelled to 70 countries, with many of them with questionable food standards but trust me, I was aware were I was, I knew that I was healthy, and most important I accepted the risk. Also I was paying way less. If in my supposedly first world country I pay 20-25 Dollars steak in a supermarket I don't want to go into the shitter with diarrhea and maybe going to the hospital.
Also, I am going to Mexico tomorrow with my 9 month old. Do you think I will buy certain local products that I would buy in canada? do you think that I will give him tap water?
Do you think that old people with health problems would go to eat street food in certain countries? Do you think that if UK imports low quality products that can cause health problems and goes to the news people will not start to look at labels? Don't you think that they would sue the government if it is negligent? Do you think that if a car has safety issues, people will be less inclined to purchase it?
Moronic take, again, even worse
I wonder why they get recalled. For the good will of the manufacturers sure
Jeez stupid take after stupid take
I lived in Mexico City for 5 years, eating questionable Street food is one of the greatest delights there. Don't insult my intelligence with your 'I know better than you' attitude.
Point being that they passed the standards to get to manufacturing / sale point
Is not better than you attitude is like in this topic you are being ridiculous like the result of food poisoning = seller give poisoned food
Good for you on the street food, we are the same on this regard. We know that usually has great taste, is cheap and not the usual experience...and we know the risk. And we risk it. Others font want to risk it and others can't risk it. And those that are not just a few, much appreciate european standards and regulation that minimize life threaten health circumstances
You are not everybody and your take is stupid. In other topics you might be great reasoning (im still waiting though or i missed it) but this is not the case
But whose standards? EU standards ? Mogg wants those gone, UK standards? No-one knows what they are because they haven't got around to doing it. Chinese standards?
All Mogg is saying to all countries around the world, you can ship what you like to us, we don't care, we don't care if it's dangerous, poor quality or whatever. We're not going to check it and have any documentation tracing the stuff.
But it doesn't end there. It's not only the British consumer that is at risk, it's the whole world where the Uk want to export to.
If the rest of the world know that the UK doesn't do checks on it's imports then they could use what they import to make products for export and the UK have to provide the certification etc for what they export which they wouldn't be able to do.
The insanity continues.
Drug shortages, now normal in UK, made worse by Brexit, report warns
Some shortages are so serious they are imperilling the health and even lives of patients with serious illnesses, pharmacy bosses say
https://www.theguardian.com/science...ormal-in-uk-made-worse-by-brexit-report-warns
Drug shortages, now normal in UK, made worse by Brexit, report warns
Some shortages are so serious they are imperilling the health and even lives of patients with serious illnesses, pharmacy bosses say
https://www.theguardian.com/science...ormal-in-uk-made-worse-by-brexit-report-warns
Same in the Netherlands, no salbutamol for lung patients
Hency why the report says worse because of Brexit. It's not denying that problems exist elsewhere.
Remember when he said that NZ beef was good because he’d eaten it
On the wider context you can’t let electrical goods in for example without checks. “Oh they’re ok, it looks like an Apple product”
this concept is a bit too complex for Brexiters mate
It's available in France on prescription. Collection the next day.
Have noticed that Pharmacies are keeping lower stocks of some medicine (to reduce their costs) but they order it if they're low on any particular stock and it's delivered to them from a central depot within 24 hours.
Morons like Rees-Mogg are highly dangerous people. He has zero idea what he's talking about but his Brexiter followers lap it up.
It's all sorts of products from food, to plywood, to chemicals to electrical goods and millions of others, which if he had his way he'd let into the country without any checks or complete paperwork. All products should be tested and certified.
How he's able to talk such nonsense on public media without censure is insane. There's no accountability in the UK.
This is part of a LBC radio programme with the Uk's business secretary, the one who's currently supposed to be negotiating deals, whose intention is to become PM as did one of her predecessors, Truss.
Like Truss she has absolutely no idea what she's doing and understands nothing. In all likelihood she will be gone within months and the Tories will have lost the GE.
A flicker of hope. No, she will be replaced by some other idiot from the Labour party who understands just about as much, will want the same benefits inside and out of the EU, have no idea what being in the Single Market or he Customs Union means and will waffle on about some veterinary agreement and a renegotiation.
Like Truss she has absolutely no idea what she's doing and understands nothing. In all likelihood she will be gone within months and the Tories will have lost the GE.
A flicker of hope. No, she will be replaced by some other idiot from the Labour party who understands just about as much, will want the same benefits inside and out of the EU, have no idea what being in the Single Market or he Customs Union means and will waffle on about some veterinary agreement and a renegotiation.
You should have kept that quiet, next time the farmers are on strike the depots will be a target to pressurize Macron
You should have kept that quiet, next time the farmers are on strike the depots will be a target to pressurize Macron
Any problems with French farmers we can arrange for them to spend a week in the UK talking with their British colleagues, they'll soon be all sweetness and light
EU proposes UK free movement deal for young people
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68848046
The EU wants to agree a deal with the UK to bring back some pre-Brexit rights to enable young people to live and work in each other's countries.
The European Commission is seeking talks on a deal that would effectively bring back a version of free movement for people aged between 18 and 30.
The UK already runs schemes with some non-EU countries to allow people to come to the UK for up to two years.
It says it is open to extending that to individual EU member states.
But Downing Street says it prefers these country-by-country deals rather than an agreement that would apply across all 27 EU member states.
And Labour has said it has "no plans for a youth mobility scheme" if it wins the general election later this year.
A party spokesperson said it had already pledged "no return to the single market, customs union or free movement" if it takes office.
It added it wanted to improve the UK's relationship with the EU by agreeing new arrangements for recognising work qualifications, trading food and agricultural products, and touring performers.
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Good to see Labour staying to the right of this Government on this. It isn't like 18-30 years olds vote for them anyway.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68848046
The EU wants to agree a deal with the UK to bring back some pre-Brexit rights to enable young people to live and work in each other's countries.
The European Commission is seeking talks on a deal that would effectively bring back a version of free movement for people aged between 18 and 30.
The UK already runs schemes with some non-EU countries to allow people to come to the UK for up to two years.
It says it is open to extending that to individual EU member states.
But Downing Street says it prefers these country-by-country deals rather than an agreement that would apply across all 27 EU member states.
And Labour has said it has "no plans for a youth mobility scheme" if it wins the general election later this year.
A party spokesperson said it had already pledged "no return to the single market, customs union or free movement" if it takes office.
It added it wanted to improve the UK's relationship with the EU by agreeing new arrangements for recognising work qualifications, trading food and agricultural products, and touring performers.
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Good to see Labour staying to the right of this Government on this. It isn't like 18-30 years olds vote for them anyway.
Starmer wants to tour the EU as a clown chasing after smuggler gangs.
Why would the EU want this and why would Labor be against it? Afraid of the gammon vote?
Presumably, it will show somewhere in the immigration numbers. So, yeah, probably.
First part, because the EU isn't as vindictive or childish etc as many of the posters on here, who want to get every dig in any every opportunity.
Labour because Starmer is so afraid of being attacked on anything Brexit related the twat, particularly in the red wall I'd imagine. And probably doesn't think he'll lose the youth vote anyway.
I meant what is in for them? There must be a benefit for them I assume.
So far it's just a suggestion floated from the European Commission. Starmer won't be PM by the time it ever comes to fruition, if.
Are we vindictive? Jesus Christ.