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Massive Spanner said:
Of course there's no shortage of wine in the country that makes the wine :lol:

Have you even read the article? It says the problem isn't just Europe but also the US. It's not the Government saying it either, it's our supermarkets.
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Yes I have read the article and here is a quote


"They say salad products such as tomatoes, peppers and cucumbers are in short supply due to bad weather conditions in Italy and Spain.

Tesco Ireland said that "due to bad weather in seasonal supply from Morocco and Spain, the growing and harvesting schedules of some produce have been impacted".

We have loads of tomatoes, peppers , cucumbers, oranges, and loads of other products from Spain and Morocco. Weird.

Can't see USA mentioned but they're too far away for fresh food.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
Yes I have read the article and here is a quote


"They say salad products such as tomatoes, peppers and cucumbers are in short supply due to bad weather conditions in Italy and Spain.

Tesco Ireland said that "due to bad weather in seasonal supply from Morocco and Spain, the growing and harvesting schedules of some produce have been impacted".

We have loads of tomatoes, peppers , cucumbers, oranges, and loads of other products from Spain and Morocco. Weird.

Can't see USA mentioned but they're too far away for fresh food.
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Spain and Morocco are a lot closer to France than Ireland.

anyway, clearly you have a weird obsession with this and refuse to accept it’s due to anything but brexit so I’ll leave you at it.
 
Massive Spanner said:
Spain and Morocco are a lot closer to France than Ireland.

anyway, clearly you have a weird obsession with this and refuse to accept it’s due to anything but brexit so I’ll leave you at it.
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Germany and all the other European countries aren't. They're just delivering elsewhere. Too much hassle.
 
not sure about the bad weather argument either, I live in Spain and it was 20C in the north of Spain on Saturday and hasn't rained for a few weeks, finally started raining today. There has also been literally zero in the news about crop damages and shortages. The only news reports are Spanish outlets reporting the UK news. Seems weird that it is only reported in the UK
 
RedRoach said:
not sure about the bad weather argument either, I live in Spain and it was 20C in the north of Spain on Saturday and hasn't rained for a few weeks, finally started raining today. There has also been literally zero in the news about crop damages and shortages. The only news reports are Spanish outlets reporting the UK news. Seems weird that it is only reported in the UK
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There has been bad weather in 2022 which we witnessed but it's not really affecting anyone at the minute, it did 5 or 6 months ago with things like tomato, potato or salad. For spain the current poor recolts affect olives but not the rest, as far as I know.

From the outside it seems that they are trying to blur the lines with mentioning an actual drought that had consequences in the past 12 months but isn't really an issue for the vast majority of fresh products this winter. If the article was about oil and its price, they would be correct though.
 
Morroco apparently had bad weather during crop season and it effected their produce. It's probably a mixture of Brexit as well as bad weather effecting supply.
 
JPRouve said:
There has been bad weather in 2022 which we witnessed but it's not really affecting anyone at the minute, it did 5 or 6 months ago with things like tomato, potato or salad. For spain the current poor recolts affect olives but not the rest, as far as I know.

From the outside it seems that they are trying to blur the lines with mentioning an actual drought that had consequences in the past 12 months but isn't really an issue for the vast majority of fresh products this winter. If the article was about oil and its price, they would be correct though.
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Yeah probably it is the veg that gets harvested and stored in oxygen free storage units months in advance awaiting shipment to the UK. Which is also why the tomatoes in the UK taste of nothing I guess.
 
Massive Spanner said:
Spain and Morocco are a lot closer to France than Ireland.

anyway, clearly you have a weird obsession with this and refuse to accept it’s due to anything but brexit so I’ll leave you at it.
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Much further the nordic countries. What paul is trying to say is that trucks had it easy to deliver to the UK. Now they dont and its the last option to deliver. Transportation in ireland is heavily interlinked and dependent on UK because they cross the canal from mainland europe to the great island. If few truck goes to UK, few tracks will go to ireland as they have to double cross. If you have slightly shortage of produce and you have to choose, you will go to other countries. If the produce is bountiful you dont need to choose where to deliver. In other words. Brexit made UK one of the last options because of the nuisances and ireland sufferw the consequences.

The same would happen with portugal/spain. If spain would be out of the EU and there was a shortage of something from europe, portugal would suffer the consequences bc connectivity
 
Ok, fine, it is Brexit.

In which case feck you Brexit even more cause it's impacting our veg too and I got terrible tomatoes in my shopping this morning.
 
Feeling a bit North Korea this, no-one else with problems in the EU but our press ignoring that and giving us the official message from the government instead.
 
Should we form some sort of circle that sends care packages to our fellow posters most in need? I thought no toiletpaper was bad but no vegs isn't sustainable.

Jokes aside: How bad is this really? Has anyone tried getting basics and failed for multiple days?
 
This one is really interesting because the disinformation is a bit more subtle than usual. There was bad weather which has affected crops, there was also a lack of workers which has also affected recolts but it's not a current issue and doesn't concern fresh products(it will likely be an issue this spring/summer). There are products that should be missing or that have seen a price increase but not fresh products, it's largely transformed ones, an example is mustard.

So they are kind of lying about something that is kind of true while also totally overlooking that brexit puts the UK at the end of the supply chain because it's more expensive for haulers to supply the UK.
 
Abizzz said:
Should we form some sort of circle that sends care packages to our fellow posters most in need? I thought no toiletpaper was bad but no vegs isn't sustainable.

Jokes aside: How bad is this really? Has anyone tried getting basics and failed for multiple days?
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We did offer many moons ago but of course they wouldn't be able to cope with the red tape clearing through customs plus all the transport costs and duties inflicted by the UK government on their own citizens.
 
Balljy said:
Feeling a bit North Korea this, no-one else with problems in the EU but our press ignoring that and giving us the official message from the government instead.
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Of course it's largely due to Brexit. We have no shortages of anything in Italy, we have loads of different varieties of tomatoes too. If it was all about the weather, we'd have shortages here, wouldn't we?

That post about Dutch tomatoes tells a tale - there's no value in driving to the UK from the Netherlands now, it takes too long because of all the regulations.
 
Penna said:
Of course it's largely due to Brexit. We have no shortages of anything in Italy, we have loads of different varieties of tomatoes too. If it was all about the weather, we'd have shortages here, wouldn't we?

That post about Dutch tomatoes tells a tale - there's no value in driving to the UK from the Netherlands now, it takes too long because of all the regulations.
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Oh yes, I agree completely. Our press is just ignoring all of that so there will be a load of people in the UK who don't know that's the case.
 
Balljy said:
Feeling a bit North Korea this, no-one else with problems in the EU but our press ignoring that and giving us the official message from the government instead.
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We have been told repeteadly on this very forum that you have to be super careful not to offend Brexiteers (as they're actually the most fragile snowflakes on the planet), because otherwise they'll never change their minds and become more (?) entrenched. So what we have instead is blatant lying and embarrassing propagandist slogans monopolising mainstream media, purposefully and sometimes explicitly hiding the biggest factor in millions of households losing quality of life if not outright falling into poverty. But that's all right I guess, as long as no one says or writes that they think that perhaps a few of those who voted for Brexit maybe, who knows, maybe not, weren't the most tolerant, sensible and brightest members of society. I apologise for the language used and truly think Brexiteers are a lovely bunch, I was just describing how others may (unfairly) see them.
 
Abizzz said:
Should we form some sort of circle that sends care packages to our fellow posters most in need? I thought no toiletpaper was bad but no vegs isn't sustainable.

Jokes aside: How bad is this really? Has anyone tried getting basics and failed for multiple days?
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No peppers or cucumbers over here last week.
 
Let’s face it, the people who want the weather excuse are the people who watch these news channels. None of them are going to check twitter to see if it’s actually true.
 
Massive Spanner said:
Spain and Morocco are a lot closer to France than Ireland.

anyway, clearly you have a weird obsession with this and refuse to accept it’s due to anything but brexit so I’ll leave you at it.
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What @Paul the Wolf ... having a weird obsession in relation to Brexit... No can't be so, you must be mistaken, he hardly ever mentions Brexit (;))
 
RedSky said:
No peppers or cucumbers over here last week.
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Alright that's serious enough to be pissed off about. Thanks for the answer!

I have no clue how much pepper is here (can't eat it) but cucumbers are way more expensive here too. Maybe not quite 2€ but at least1.5€. I had it down to inflation before hearing about this from the UK though. Does make sense if potential importers ordered less if they calculated the consumer price to hit 2.5 £
 
Maticmaker said:
Of course Paul, how can it be any different, we all know everything going wrong is down to Brexit... you have told
us so often! :nono: ..;)
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Part of what's going wrong with the UK is down to incompetent politicians across both main parties, an out-of-date parliamentary system, pigs at the trough and on top of it a suicidal Brexit. Don't know what it will take for the electorate to wake up.
 
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The UK are a great country but Brexit is one of the dumbest policy of the last century.
 
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