This prat was involved in making the deal he is slagging off. Lord Frost vibes here.
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Sad, but a bit of an idiot to invest 1 million pounds to sell in the EU in 2019 knowing where Brexit was heading. Not saying that he should know about the shitshow, but at least, wait it out
It’s always the same line of attack - “The French are being unreasonable and have now arbitrarily decided x, y, z”. Rather than the UK left the EU with a hard Brexit and, as just one of the consequences of now being a third country without bilateral treaties on the relevant issue, its dogs are now treated like dogs from Albania, Morocco, Thailand etc…“
For people like this old man, it’s the dawning realisation that the former status quo was not just the way things are if you are British but a consequence of being part of the EU club. That was always the hardest message to get across in 2016 - the fact that much of what we took for granted as the norm was only there due to EU membership.
Saw Jacobs crackers staff were on strike today, annoyed me that not one person from the media started to ask “how many of you voted Leave”.
No backbone whatsoever.
No backbone whatsoever.
Exactly, that's all I want to hear on the news. The fact that companies are now going bust directly as a result of brexit is not 'news'. It's like telling me the sun rose from the east again every morning.
That blind man can wind his neck in as well. Why the feck vote for leaving the dirty French and friends, then want to go there again? Leave means fecking leave. Get It Done. GERRONWIVIT.
Brexiter Bank of England Manager, Andrew Bailey.
UK 'definitely underperforming' on trade since Brexit
Q: Do you agree with Michael Saunders, a former MPC member, that without Brexit we wouldn’t face an austerity budget this week?
Andrew Bailey says the Bank thinks Brexit will cause a long-term downshift to UK productivity of around 3%. It calculated that shortly after the referendum, and hasn’t seen anything yet to change its view.
There is an effect from Brexit – but Michael must take his own view, Bailey adds.
UK 'definitely underperforming' on trade since Brexit
Q: Do you agree with Michael Saunders, a former MPC member, that without Brexit we wouldn’t face an austerity budget this week?
Andrew Bailey says the Bank thinks Brexit will cause a long-term downshift to UK productivity of around 3%. It calculated that shortly after the referendum, and hasn’t seen anything yet to change its view.
There is an effect from Brexit – but Michael must take his own view, Bailey adds.
Telling us what we already knew. Brexit has been and will continue to be a disaster, making everyone poorer.
Yeah, but we got control back
Brexit happened because more people voted to leave than stay. Yet everyone you ask claim they never voted for it, funny that huh?
More appropriately, people will say they 'never voted to leave', but will omit they actually never voted at all. The idiots don't realise if you don't vote on important matters like this then YOU voted for it.
Aye they’re the worst. Think they can absolve themselves of any responsibility. As you say if you didn’t vote against it then you voted for it, just by doing nothing.
Can we have another poll? Who thinks that Brexit’s a success so far or not?
Where are all these pro Brexit posters in this gone from 2016? Why aren’t they posting?
Where are all these pro Brexit posters in this gone from 2016? Why aren’t they posting?
The absolute bull shit and idiocy people will swallow. So called intelligent people . Yet we’re not allowed to say the reality is that people only voted for it because they’re chauvinistic xenophobes.
Thank feck I live in Holland. Jesus Christ, this shit show is really going to hurt your wallet.
So 32% must still think it’s going swimmingly (in coastlines now full of sewage).
It was always likely that there would be a swing back in favour of reality (plus older voters dying off ). The problem is, unlike the US where they could voteTrump out of office after 4 years, there is no obvious way of fixing this mess in the short-to-medium term.
People are still being brainwashed by the media and the government , added to the inability to admit they were wrong, added to Labour barely mentioning it and Starmer's going to make it work.
The problem is there is no way out of it other than aligning as quickly as possible with the EU and rejoining possibly decades in the future. Furthermore it's going to get worse before it gets better. It's barely started. A decision that was taken far too lightly at the time.
Starmer is talking like a typical politician.
He was very much against Brexit and I am sure he knows even more now it was wrong to leave.
But he knows that he has to say that Labour is going to make it work. Realistically what else can he say.
The decision was taken not just too lightly, but based on lies, illusions, delusions, bravado coupled with racism and a healthy dose of rank stupidity.
Democracy at its worst.
I agree with the last part but I was not at all convinced by Corbyn or Starmer at the time of the referendum (or since) but saying he's going to make Brexit work won't help either.
It means he either believes it can work which is impossible or he's trying to con the voters into voting for him and then completely change as soon as he's in and start aiming to rejoin which even if it was started now will take at least twenty years. In between time the UK will pull further and further away from the EU by trashing all the laws.
Take the UKCA standards certification. Is Starmer supportive of this or will he scrap it? It should be in place before the next election as will lots of other things. Will he reverse all what is happening over the next couple of years?
Starmer did not understand the EU where he thought he could agree to the withdrawal agreement provided the UK "keep the same benefits" - then a confirmation referendum after spending years discussing it. Sorry, I don't rate or trust him at all.
I dearly wish I understood some of the issues regarding international trade to a similar level that you clearly do.
But I don't, unfortunately.
It is a hugely complex subject. Far too complex for the average person.
Nevertheless, we are where we are. We can not simply throw in the towel.
The future of the UK depends on increasing our international trade. And those who are in positions of power will have to find a way of doing that.
And hopefully some of them will understand the issues to the same level as you.... hopefully.
There is an easy fix to increase international trade. Just lower your standard of living by 50 % 
I wouldn't understand the field you worked in.
How could anyone hold a referendum expecting people to understand how the economy and trade works. I wouldn't expect them to but they wouldn't listen to people who did know what they were talking about.
Farage and Johnson and the rest certainly didn't - but they didn't care either . They knew that nationalism and xenophobia would win.
The biggest problem was that the Brexiters gave the impression that the UK didn't trade with the world outside of the EU. I spent most of my working life doing just that.
All Brexit did was significantly reduce the trade with their main trade partners, the EU and damage some of the trade with the rest of the world. As I've said before, a trade deal with the USA was the ultimate target but a trade deal with the USA would barely increase the trade that already existed. There are no new trade deals that are going to make much difference. The main deal was with the EU and always will be.
The UKCA will make international trade worse and more difficult. The only way to get UK back to increasing their international trade is to admit they were wrong and start building towards where they were with the EU but I can't see that happening for quite some time and certainly not until Labour have a leader that dares to point out the problems that Brexit is causing.
It is clear Starmer is trying to say whatever "middle England" thinks is right to try and get elected. Which presumably means he will only change his tune on Brexit after the majority of the country realise it is bad news. The tail wagging the dog. No leadership.
I agree. This is not the way. There needs to be strong leadership and much much less of the lies.
So disingenous to say it happened 6 years ago.
Thats fecking disgraceful. Telling someone whose business is dying to move on.
I hate what stupid people did to the UK. There was never any reason to vote to leave, none whatsoever. We had plenty of "control", Britain has its own laws, it's as if the leavers thought we were some kind of puppet state.
If we ever get back in (and it won't be in my lifetime), we'll be at the bottom of the pile with none of the perks we had before.
If we ever get back in (and it won't be in my lifetime), we'll be at the bottom of the pile with none of the perks we had before.
Full Brexit hasn't even started yet. Still all the grace periods to end over the next few years. Then the consequences .
Strange that the government always hark back to what Labour did over twelve years ago but want everyone to forget Brexit which began less than two years ago.
I too hate what has happened over Brexit.
It was and will continue to be a self inflicted disaster.
And a really stupid decision.
There have been and will not be anything tangible as a benefit.
But as you say, there is no going back. And even if it was wanted by the electorate, why would the EU allow us back.
@Buster15 . You and the other 'Lets rerun Brexit' red-cafe regulars will have to convince Paul the Wolf to come back to the UK and lead the 're-joiners' campaign
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And you continue to cheer whilst the country burbs around you. Why?@Buster15 . You and the other 'Lets rerun Brexit' red-cafe regulars will have to convince Paul the Wolf to come back to the UK and lead the 're-joiners' campaign
????? Have to explain that one to me, the only cheering I do is at OT.
Your posts always read as agreeing with brexit and will continue no matter what
@Buster15 . You and the other 'Lets rerun Brexit' red-cafe regulars will have to convince Paul the Wolf to come back to the UK and lead the 're-joiners' campaign
I have tried to make it clear in many of my posts that we have to move on and deal with the outcome of Brexit.
In this instance, I was responding to a post that mentioned going back in (to the EU).
Paul (Pogba) the Wolf would have been someone who could have spelt out the practical dangers to trade of leaving.
But the truth is that he would not have been listened to by those who had made up their minds based on nothing but an idealistic fantasy.
Freaking hilarious video. 
UK opposition parties to table amendments to delay deletion of 4,000 EU laws
Legal experts say bill, which threatens key workers’ rights, is reckless and badly designed
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-amendments-to-delay-deletion-of-4000-eu-laws
Legal experts say bill, which threatens key workers’ rights, is reckless and badly designed
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-amendments-to-delay-deletion-of-4000-eu-laws