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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/18/metric-system-imperial-measures-consultation-brexit

Jacob Rees-Mogg’s imperial measurements consultation ‘biased’ after no option given to say no
‘It’s a nonsense’: government facing claims of manipulating questions to get desired result from survey on ‘Brexit bonus’

The survey asked consumers: “If you had a choice, would you want to purchase items: i) in imperial units ii) in imperial units alongside a metric equivalent.”

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JRM in hi-vis, at a factory, holding something that's in imperial units with a massive sign that says "getting brexit done" is going to be the highlight of my year. :lol:
 
Even if they did get a trade deal with the USA, it will make little difference. What more are they going to sell them than they already do?

It's all this nonsense about Global Britain which the gullibles bought hook, line and sinker. Dreaming of Empire days long gone.

Countries' main trading partners are those closest to themselves. Europe with Europe, Americas with Americas, Asia with Asia, Africa with Africa.

The UK blew it. Big time.
 
Are we allowed to call the British public who voted for this nonsense stupid yet? Or do we still have to cater to their sensitive feelings
 
So if there is no trade deal with US (and other countries). What are the trade conditions that the UK operates with the US (and other countries)?

Best Regards
 
Even if they did get a trade deal with the USA, it will make little difference. What more are they going to sell them than they already do?

It's all this nonsense about Global Britain which the gullibles bought hook, line and sinker. Dreaming of Empire days long gone.

Countries' main trading partners are those closest to themselves. Europe with Europe, Americas with Americas, Asia with Asia, Africa with Africa.

The UK blew it. Big time.

Sadly, you’re right. The Daily Mail might polish the turd but currency markets don’t.
 
So if there is no trade deal with US (and other countries). What are the trade conditions that the UK operates with the US (and other countries)?

Best Regards

As long as the UK don't break the NI protocol they'll carry on as before with certain agreements on certain products but mainly on WTO terms as with all the countries they don't have deals with.

They have trade deals that were copied from the EU negotiated deals and the really poor Australia and NZ deals which add nothing or even make the UK worse off. Those are all little extras but nothing major.

The main deal is with the EU which is a vastly watered down trade agreement with the added severely damaging complication of no longer being in the Customs Union and more grace periods ending over the coming years.

Of course if the UK do break the NIP then tariff barriers will be raised by the EU and probably the USA.

Still to come, trying to get trade deals with other unknown countries, which will add nothing and the new UKCA certification (instead of the EU CE standards) which will also cause untold problems.
 
As long as the UK don't break the NI protocol they'll carry on as before with certain agreements on certain products but mainly on WTO terms as with all the countries they don't have deals with.

They have trade deals that were copied from the EU negotiated deals and the really poor Australia and NZ deals which add nothing or even make the UK worse off. Those are all little extras but nothing major.

The main deal is with the EU which is a vastly watered down trade agreement with the added severely damaging complication of no longer being in the Customs Union and more grace periods ending over the coming years.

Of course if the UK do break the NIP then tariff barriers will be raised by the EU and probably the USA.

Still to come, trying to get trade deals with other unknown countries, which will add nothing and the new UKCA certification (instead of the EU CE standards) which will also cause untold problems.

I thought that for a while they will carry on with the EU trade agreements with most of the countries till a new agreement will be reached, but purely WTO? I thought that was a very bad scenario...

Thanks for the explanation
 
I thought that for a while they will carry on with the EU trade agreements with most of the countries till a new agreement will be reached, but purely WTO? I thought that was a very bad scenario...

Thanks for the explanation

They've copied just about all the EU agreements with minor alterations here and there. There's nothing planned on the horizon. The CPTTP rarely gets mentioned nowadays with Asia but wouldn't add anything really.
The EU as no.1 and the USA as a distant no.2 will always be their main trading partners but they seemed determined to mess those up.
 
A whole £10m market. He probably should have kept quiet.

Also it's a bit misleading, as usual, they have access to the market, not they have sold any.
It's like Truss claiming Japan won't put tariffs on UK milk products - because they don't buy them.

The gullibles will be fooled though.


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Send them to Mongolia!
 
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Are we allowed to call the British public who voted for this nonsense stupid yet? Or do we still have to cater to their sensitive feelings

You can't mate no or they've threatened to do even more stupid things in future.

"I've shot myself in the foot but if you carry on calling me an idiot, I'll chop my dick off as well"
 
So when is it going to be politically acceptable to have a mainstream party campaign for re-join?

I'm going to guess 2029 election? with a view to holding a referendum on joining the single market? (if the Eu would have us of course)
 
It's a complete disaster but we can't tell people because it might upset their feelings.

Even telling them would make square root of fk all difference. The cretins in government need a fans travel to Ed Woodwards house type of moment to shake them up imo
 
https://www.rte.ie/news/2022/0922/1324777-northern-ireland-census/

More people in Northern Ireland are Catholics than Protestants for the first time in its 101-year history, the latest Census figures show.

The Census reveals that of the resident population, 45.7% are either Catholic or brought up Catholic.

The percentage of the population who are either Protestant or were brought up Protestant is 43.5%.

9.3% of people said they neither belonged to nor were brought up in any religion.

The figure for the Catholic population has increased by 0.6% since the last census in 2011, while the figure for the Protestant population has fallen almost 5% during the same period.

This is it lads, the beginning of the end.
 
It's a complete disaster but we can't tell people because it might upset their feelings.
Shouldn't they have much thicker skin though? Considering the Venn diagram of brexiteers and people using snowflake unironically is probably very close to a perfect circle, they should.
 
Shouldn't they have much thicker skin though? Considering the Venn diagram of brexiteers and people using snowflake unironically is probably very close to a perfect circle, they should.

Yeah but they never practice what they preach just like the free speech enthusiasts who suddenly shout you down if they don't like what you are saying (e.g the truth). Labour doesn't even need to reverse brexit but just promote better relationships with the EU with small steps like back in the customs union will help. I'm sick of being held to ransom about a decision made on a vote which no one had a clue what they were voting for over 6 years ago.
 
Are prots more likely to be atheists or is that just an assumption with zero supporting evidence?
Protestant rates are falling because they're dying more than Catholics, basically, due to an older population with higher mortality rates, and more people are being born as Catholic than Protestant. It's a trend that will only continue.

I think it's worth noting that for a lot of people up north, identifying as Catholic or Prod vs Atheist isn't really a religious statement, more about your overall identity. It's a different meaning to down here in Ireland where atheism rates are massively on the up because people don't want to be considered Catholic (for obvious reasons).
 
Protestant rates are falling because they're dying more than Catholics, basically, due to an older population with higher mortality rates, and more people are being born as Catholic than Protestant. It's a trend that will only continue.

I think it's worth noting that for a lot of people up north, identifying as Catholic or Prod vs Atheist isn't really a religious statement, more about your overall identity. It's a different meaning to down here in Ireland where atheism rates are massively on the up because people don't want to be considered Catholic (for obvious reasons).
Cheers, that makes sense. How big a deal is it unless you get a referendum on reunifying?
 
Cheers, that makes sense. How big a deal is it unless you get a referendum on reunifying?
Ah I dunno :lol: the logistics of the whole thing are insane to me, it will take years, can't see it happening in the next decade anyway. There are also a lot of reservations down south about our ability to "absorb" the North given their reliance on Westminster for so much funding. There would have to be a very, very long bedding in period where the UK still support NI. Also, a lot of Catholics have historically rejected unification too because the NHS is a much better health service than the HSE, they have jobs with the UK Civil service etc. so it's not simple for them either. It's a mouth wateringly huge undertaking if it does happen so, hopefully, unlike this thread's namesake, it's done slowly and carefully. It'll happen but it could take a long time.
 
Ah I dunno :lol: the logistics of the whole thing are insane to me, it will take years, can't see it happening in the next decade anyway. There are also a lot of reservations down south about our ability to "absorb" the North given their reliance on Westminster for so much funding. There would have to be a very, very long bedding in period where the UK still support NI. Also, a lot of Catholics have historically rejected unification too because the NHS is a much better health service than the HSE, they have jobs with the UK Civil service etc. so it's not simple for them either. It's a mouth wateringly huge undertaking if it does happen so, hopefully, unlike this thread's namesake, it's done slowly and carefully. It'll happen but it could take a long time.
That sounds a massive headache and add in Northern Ireland's share the mega UK debt pile. I'm sure Ireland would baulk at taking that on, plus the orange people marching in Ireland would be a sight.