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Easy to laugh at now, even easier than it was to laugh at back then, but I know a lot of people who argued pro brexit exactly along the lines being presented here.

It's funny how bashing the EU has now long replaced titties as the attraction of the Sun. Probably say's something about the virility of it's readership these days :lol:
 
‘Immigration’ sure is doing a lot of the heavy lifting in that short clip.
Yeah that's what I thought too. "Waiting lists will be shorter due to controlled immigration". It's awful how complex issues get turned into videos like this without any sort of nuance.
 
Yeah that's what I thought too. "Waiting lists will be shorter due to controlled immigration". It's awful how complex issues get turned into videos like this without any sort of nuance.

I was more perplexed by the wage increases due to less immigration. As an example farming and the food industry are low profit margin activities, if you increase significantly wage it will be repercuted on prices. Many services are in the same boat with low profit margins.
 
Rees-Mogg is the biggest cnut in UK politics

actually he might be the biggest cnut in the UK
 
Rees-Mogg is the biggest cnut in UK politics

actually he might be the biggest cnut in the UK

I think that the number of Rees-Mogg cult supporters has surely decreased noticeably since he became part of the government and therefore the establishment (the likes of Desmond Swayne became the new darling of many of those people with his speeches attacking COVID restrictions), or maybe even since he voted for May's withdrawal agreement during the 3rd meaningful vote after previously being the single biggest critic of it from a right-wing perspective within Westminster.

But still the fact that has been able to con so many people into thinking that he has actually knows what he is talking about, purely because has a very posh accent and knows Latin declensions, has been astonishing and infuriating at the same time. During the period when Brexit was all-consuming, there were videos of him debating people on the opposite side of the fence that were put up on YouTube. They'd make constructive arguments often drawing on industry expertise, while he'd just repeat empty buzzwords and phrases over and over again, i.e. 'project fear', 'stop crying wolf' etc. The comments sections would be full of messages saying that he completely schooled and outsmarted the other person.
 
Rees-Mogg is the biggest cnut in UK politics

actually he might be the biggest cnut in the UK

Reminds me of the smarmy school prefect who used to love reporting you to the headmaster. And grew up to lead the university debating society. And never changed.

Totally repugnant.
 



He gets bored with everything, Covid's a thing of the past, 'Ukraine fatigue' is him bored with pretending to be Churchill. Brexit - where do you go from here, trash the NI Protocol and that's about it, no deals, no sunlit uplands, all a bit boring. Have a good old laugh at the British people and see what we can stir up next to take the p!ss out of them.
 
He gets bored with everything, Covid's a thing of the past, 'Ukraine fatigue' is him bored with pretending to be Churchill. Brexit - where do you go from here, trash the NI Protocol and that's about it, no deals, no sunlit uplands, all a bit boring. Have a good old laugh at the British people and see what we can stir up next to take the p!ss out of them.

Thought you were better than your last sentence if I am honest Paul.
You must realise that there is a difference between the PM and his government and the majority of the British people.
Yes he was voted in by a huge majority. But there specific reasons for that.
And yes the (small majority) voted for Brexit. And again for specific reasons.
But in the main, British people are no different from many others.
Trying to make the best out of a bad job in spite of what the government does or does not do.
 
Thought you were better than your last sentence if I am honest Paul.
You must realise that there is a difference between the PM and his government and the majority of the British people.
Yes he was voted in by a huge majority. But there specific reasons for that.
And yes the (small majority) voted for Brexit. And again for specific reasons.
But in the main, British people are no different from many others.
Trying to make the best out of a bad job in spite of what the government does or does not do.

I should have put the last sentence in inverted commas. I meant that's what's going through Johnson's mind.
He's not interested in anything for long periods of time. Always looking for the next distraction.

He treats the electorate with contempt and doesn't care at all, about anything other than himself and the power. If there is a sense of discontent he'll play the patriotic card and flag-waving. It's worked so far.
The common theme of my points is when will the public wake up and realise they're being lied to 24/7?
Before moving on they've got to get rid of this government because it's not going to get better until they've gone. The really bad parts of Brexit are still to come.
 
I should have put the last sentence in inverted commas. I meant that's what's going through Johnson's mind.
He's not interested in anything for long periods of time. Always looking for the next distraction.

He treats the electorate with contempt and doesn't care at all, about anything other than himself and the power. If there is a sense of discontent he'll play the patriotic card and flag-waving. It's worked so far.
The common theme of my points is when will the public wake up and realise they're being lied to 24/7?
Before moving on they've got to get rid of this government because it's not going to get better until they've gone. The really bad parts of Brexit are still to come.

That is what I thought and understand.
A significant number of people have woken up to what he is like and what he is doing. Recent elections show that.
As have a significant number of his own MPs, over 40%.

His party is a reflection of their leadership.
Full of arrogance, incompetence and scandal and sleaze.

Without a focal point, it is the workers who are prepared to go on strike against financial inequality and the cost of living. And the fact that the public mainly support them is relevant.
 
Thought you were better than your last sentence if I am honest Paul.
You must realise that there is a difference between the PM and his government and the majority of the British people.
Yes he was voted in by a huge majority. But there specific reasons for that.
And yes the (small majority) voted for Brexit. And again for specific reasons.
But in the main, British people are no different from many others.
Trying to make the best out of a bad job in spite of what the government does or does not do.

I still find it bizarre that the most votes for a party in a General Election was for Major in 1992.

Blair's landslides came from Tories staying home, but given the growth in the UK's population over the past 30 years the fact that Johnson in 2019 got 100,000 votes fewer than Major is crazy.

It perhaps underscores the flaws in FPTP.
 
I still find it bizarre that the most votes for a party in a General Election was for Major in 1992.

Blair's landslides came from Tories staying home, but given the growth in the UK's population over the past 30 years the fact that Johnson in 2019 got 100,000 votes fewer than Major is crazy.

It perhaps underscores the flaws in FPTP.

That is actually quite interesting. Never thought of it that way.
So many people are completely disillusioned with politics, the police and those in positions of power. And for very good reasons.
Boris Johnson has made public apathy significantly worse because of how he behaves.
The turnout at the next GE will be interesting to see.
 
Remember, civil servants are at the same time thwarting Brexit by preventing ministers from carrying out the will of the people, whilst also being shirkers who are avoiding work by staying home.
 


What does a pro-EU voter do in the UK?

Tories view was all about retaining power in Westminster and Johnson was all about becoming PM.
Labour's approach to Brexit has been catastrophic from the start especially Corbyn and Starmer - trying to please everyone and pleasing nobody

By what Starmer has said today he still thinks he can cherry pick the bits he likes and I've had the impression since before the referendum that he doesn't understand Brexit.

So having a reality check.
Brexit was always going to be terrible for the UK but Labour voted for triggering A50, voted for the deal and nobody will ever convince me that either Corbyn nor Starmer were ever real remainers. If they were, they seriously messed up in 2016.

So now what, there is no chance the UK will rejoin the EU in the next twenty to thirty years by which time all the current politicians will have long since departed.

Starmer trying to be a mouse and trying to polish a turd is not going to help anyone, yet again.

I don't know what the answer is but Scottish independence and a united Ireland looks more and more likely by the day.
 
A lot of people ask why so many folk in Scotland vote for the SNP. Historically I was a Labour voter but even though the SNP are far from perfect, at the very least they're not incompetent morons who can't read the fecking room.
 
A lot of people ask why so many folk in Scotland vote for the SNP. Historically I was a Labour voter but even though the SNP are far from perfect, at the very least they're not incompetent morons who can't read the fecking room.
How economically leftist is Scotland, and the SNP? I mean, Labour, like many parties that were properly economically left in the 70s, have been swept up by the neoliberalism of the 80s and are only a shell of themselves in this sense. If you actually care about socioeconomic equity, they're really not a good option anymore.
 


Starmer confirms he is absolutely clueless about Brexit. How did this guy become Head of the CPS and DPP?
Shakes head in disbelief.


The thing is I don't think he is. There are even those in Government who know and accept the reality that Brexit is a disaster.

But we live in weird political times, and instead of showing leadership the majority of politicians now will come up with all sorts of half-brained solutions to make the deal 'work', all the time waiting for some mythical point in the future where the populace will the elected representatives to rejoin.