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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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I'm not sure where you live and work but as someone who works and employs several dozen people in West Bromwich (who voted 68% to leave) I can categorically say that they would vote to leave in greater numbers if another vote were to occur.

I think this is the mistake people made the first time. They assume that the greater the pro-EU viewpoint is held in their circles the more chance that their viewpoint is held in all circles. If their viewpoint becomes more pro-EU that this view has to be reflected countrywide.

In fact I'd argue the opposite is true. I genuinely believe that the more pro-EU the people who voted to remain get; not only the more pro-Brexit their adversaries get; but the more the people who were wavering would tend to favour the now not so scary alternative.

Especially when they see their wages having grown by 10% for the first time since Blair changed the game.

I would love to be a libertarian. It’s like living in an alternate reality.
 
If you had a Brexit vote now, continue as we mean to go on or reverse everything back to 2016 I think it would be comfortably 60%+ in favour of remain. That’s what I’d expect a real vote on it to achieve.

If you could somehow extract the truth out of everyone with a “are you better off in or out” style vote it would be 75%+ remain.

I think the 2019 election as well was thoroughly built on “just get on with it and get it over” with no real thought of the consequences. Now those consequences are known I’d be interested in how those people are feeling now.


“Strong and stable Conservative government or Jeremy Corbyn’s coalition of chaos”
Like @finneh said about West Brom, no way remain would win in East Yorkshire either. If anything both sides are more entrenched with some borderlines buying the 'they're punishing us' mantra.

Regardless of the fact the current crises are only part down to Brexit, people I know up there are adamant it's 'worth it'. Don't ask me to explain that logic though.
 
I'm not sure where you live and work but as someone who works and employs several dozen people in West Bromwich (who voted 68% to leave) I can categorically say that they would vote to leave in greater numbers if another vote were to occur.

I think this is the mistake people made the first time. They assume that the greater the pro-EU viewpoint is held in their circles the more chance that their viewpoint is held in all circles. If their viewpoint becomes more pro-EU that this view has to be reflected countrywide.

In fact I'd argue the opposite is true. I genuinely believe that the more pro-EU the people who voted to remain get; not only the more pro-Brexit their adversaries get; but the more the people who were wavering would tend to favour the now not so scary alternative.

Especially when they see their wages having grown by 10% for the first time since Blair changed the game.

Your company's employees may have been given a 10% pay rise but don't think that applies to everyone.
Please promise to let us know if your trucks are delayed because of lack of fuel.
 
Like @finneh said about West Brom, no way remain would win in East Yorkshire either. If anything both sides are more entrenched with some borderlines buying the 'they're punishing us' mantra.

Regardless of the fact the current crises are only part down to Brexit, people I know up there are adamant it's 'worth it'. Don't ask me to explain that logic though.

I absolutely agree with the bolded.
 
I'm not sure where you live and work but as someone who works and employs several dozen people in West Bromwich (who voted 68% to leave) I can categorically say that they would vote to leave in greater numbers if another vote were to occur.

I think this is the mistake people made the first time. They assume that the greater the pro-EU viewpoint is held in their circles the more chance that their viewpoint is held in all circles. If their viewpoint becomes more pro-EU that this view has to be reflected countrywide.

In fact I'd argue the opposite is true. I genuinely believe that the more pro-EU the people who voted to remain get; not only the more pro-Brexit their adversaries get; but the more the people who were wavering would tend to favour the now not so scary alternative.

Especially when they see their wages having grown by 10% for the first time since Blair changed the game.

:lol: Please tell me you don’t think this is down to a Brexit upside?
 

I'm struggling to understand what the government were thinking here. They either just want to appear to be doing something so they can make up excuses while it continues to get worse, or they are that pompous that they think Johnny Foreigner is going to rush to the UK at the mere whiff of a British fart.
 
I'm struggling to understand what the government were thinking here. They either just want to appear to be doing something so they can make up excuses while it continues to get worse, or they are that pompous that they think Johnny Foreigner is going to rush to the UK at the mere whiff of a British fart.

Both probably.
On Thursday last week there were no problems according to the government.
Now they're blaming the public for panic buying.

More government panic to follow.
 
One of the things that bothers me the most about all this on a social level is how Brexiteers, after doing this to our country, are refusing responsibility… they either adopt a laughable, ‘it’s not Brexit’ stance, or they try and push the angle, ‘look, it’s done now, let’s stop talking about it’…

Both of which I find utterly pathetic.

They did this to our country to begin with because they were blaming other people for everything, and now that they’re seeing the utter feck up they bought into they’re yet again trying to offload the responsibility!

Out of interest how many of you have lost friendships / acquaintances over Brexit?
 
I saw that some brands were 90% dry, if true the government waited way too long before doing something.

It happens very quickly when the idiots start panicking. When the news got out late last week the forecourts were selling 5x the fuel they sell on a normal day so the issue went from nothing to out of fuel very quickly.

On the bright side there will be empty petrol stations when I get round to filling up later in the week when everybody has waited in the queues and has full tanks.
 
It happens very quickly when the idiots start panicking. When the news got out late last week the forecourts were selling 5x the fuel they sell on a normal day so the issue went from nothing to out of fuel very quickly.

On the bright side there will be empty petrol stations when I get round to filling up later in the week when everybody has waited in the queues and has full tanks.

Yeah, I've just not bothered till I need to go, by then the stations will be empty again :lol: don't know where everyone thinks they're going with full tanks tbh. Still, even with a shortage, people will 100% drive 5 mins up the road to do the school run / nip to shop. People still won't car share to work.
 
One of the things that bothers me the most about all this on a social level is how Brexiteers, after doing this to our country, are refusing responsibility… they either adopt a laughable, ‘it’s not Brexit’ stance, or they try and push the angle, ‘look, it’s done now, let’s stop talking about it’

Both of which I find utterly pathetic.

They did this to our country to begin with because they were blaming other people for everything, and now that they’re seeing the utter feck up they bought into they’re yet again trying to offload the responsibility!

Out of interest how many of you have lost friendships / acquaintances over Brexit?
I keep seeing that more and more, a kind of faux-magnanimity, 'we need to move on and pull together'. God forbid any leave voter is honest enough to admit it was a godawful mistake.
 
One of the things that bothers me the most about all this on a social level is how Brexiteers, after doing this to our country, are refusing responsibility… they either adopt a laughable, ‘it’s not Brexit’ stance, or they try and push the angle, ‘look, it’s done now, let’s stop talking about it’…

Both of which I find utterly pathetic.

They did this to our country to begin with because they were blaming other people for everything, and now that they’re seeing the utter feck up they bought into they’re yet again trying to offload the responsibility!

Out of interest how many of you have lost friendships / acquaintances over Brexit?
I don’t think I’ve lost friends but I’ve lost a lot of respect for people.
 
Yet another climb down by the government. Can't call it embarrassing because they are too thick to be embarrassed.
I really do hope that none of the 5,000 truck drivers that they are trying to entice take up the offer of a temporary visa to come here and work.
Visas are by definition temporary but this has a Whig of "please come and save us from this deep shit. When we don't need you anymore, we'll feck you off".
 
And that's the problem with England, people in the North go around smiling at each other and talking silly while the people in the south are left to run the country. No wonder Ole's still in a job.

"'In the North West it rains and rains. And yet we managed to produce the best music, the Industrial Revolution, the trade union movement, the Communist Manifesto and even the goddam computer. Down South, where the Sun never sets, you took all our money and what did you produce? Chas and fecking Dave."
 
People are nervous, they know we fecked up whether they admit it or not and are now easily spooked. Sat on the edge of their seats waiting to get ahead of the next crisis inevitably waiting round the corner.
 
If you had a Brexit vote now, continue as we mean to go on or reverse everything back to 2016 I think it would be comfortably 60%+ in favour of remain. That’s what I’d expect a real vote on it to achieve.

If you could somehow extract the truth out of everyone with a “are you better off in or out” style vote it would be 75%+ remain.

I think the 2019 election as well was thoroughly built on “just get on with it and get it over” with no real thought of the consequences. Now those consequences are known I’d be interested in how those people are feeling now.


“Strong and stable Conservative government or Jeremy Corbyn’s coalition of chaos”

Sounds a bit like a post match analysis thread!
If only VAR hadn't cancelled our two offside (Brexit) goals; if only the manager had played 'X' (Adonis) instead of 'Y', (Farage); if only the crowd (Remainers) had got behind Cameron.... if only we were top of the league!!!
 
Sounds a bit like a post match analysis thread!
If only VAR hadn't cancelled our two offside (Brexit) goals; if only the manager had played 'X' (Adonis) instead of 'Y', (Farage); if only the crowd (Remainers) had got behind Cameron.... if only we were top of the league!!!
I suppose it is similar in that the club (country) are run by a bunch of corrupt, rich pricks who don't care about the fans (people) and have constantly made abhorrent and disastrous selections that led to that trouble for their own self benefit and instead of admitting they were wrong are now throwing money at the problems they caused in the first place!
 
One of the things that bothers me the most about all this on a social level is how Brexiteers, after doing this to our country, are refusing responsibility… they either adopt a laughable, ‘it’s not Brexit’ stance, or they try and push the angle, ‘look, it’s done now, let’s stop talking about it’…

Both of which I find utterly pathetic.

They did this to our country to begin with because they were blaming other people for everything, and now that they’re seeing the utter feck up they bought into they’re yet again trying to offload the responsibility!

Out of interest how many of you have lost friendships / acquaintances over Brexit?
Radio this morning was brilliant for this. Some old twat on 5Live said that this had nothing to do with Brexit, and people trying to blame Brexit are shirking personal responsibility. They also said that all of this was to blame on the EU. Basically one of those "my actions shouldn't have consequences" types.
 
AA: dramatic rise in misfuelling
The AA has reported a surge in motorists misfuelling their vehicles over the weekend -- as some motorists put the wrong kind of fuel into their tanks.
Edmund King, AA president, also predicts that the rush to the forecourts should calm down ‘in the coming days’, once more cars are full of fuel.


They also put their cross in the wrong box.
 
Are they qualified?
Anyway they'll be too busy plucking turkeys.
Hear most of them are pheasant pluckers.
I would assume some are qualified, but no idea if they have the numbers to meaningfully impact the problem. My memory might be tricking me but didn't Tony Blair call on the military in the 2000 fuel shortages?
 
I would assume some are qualified, but no idea if they have the numbers to meaningfully impact the problem. My memory might be tricking me but didn't Tony Blair call on the military in the 2000 fuel shortages?

Now they're saying the army will not drive but teach the drivers. In 2000 I think they put about 80 drivers and the small tankers (not artics) on standby which would have made no difference.
 
I keep seeing that more and more, a kind of faux-magnanimity, 'we need to move on and pull together'. God forbid any leave voter is honest enough to admit it was a godawful mistake.

It’s so strange. “Look. It’s done now. We need to make the best of it”. Says the turkey with its neck on the block after voting for Christmas.
 
:wenger:
Now they're saying the army will not drive but teach the drivers. In 2000 I think they put about 80 drivers and the small tankers (not artics) on standby which would have made no difference.
Seems in Global Britain whatever the problem is, the army will fix it.
 
33% blame the last Labour government!?!?!?!?! What the feck have they been smocking???
Well if they hadn't made the void of personality that was Gordon Brown PM Cameron wouldn't ever have had the chance to take the brexit vote gamble in the first place.