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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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I imagine if the UK did decide to unilaterally suspend parts of the protocol, it would do it through Article 16 and claim just cause, rather than straight up saying "we're breaking international law". How that would go down outside of Europe, I'm not sure. I think America would fully back the EU, though probably not to the extent of implementing trade or diplomatic sanctions.
 
I imagine if the UK did decide to unilaterally suspend parts of the protocol, it would do it through Article 16 and claim just cause, rather than straight up saying "we're breaking international law". How that would go down outside of Europe, I'm not sure. I think America would fully back the EU, though probably not to the extent of implementing trade or diplomatic sanctions.

Thy US likely wouldn't bring in further sanctions, but they have said multiple times "there is no chance" (in their words) of a trade agreement with the UK if the GFA is threatened in any way by the actions of the UK.
 
Thy US likely wouldn't bring in further sanctions, but they have said multiple times "there is no chance" (in their words) of a trade agreement with the UK if the GFA is threatened in any way by the actions of the UK.
There's not going to be a meaningful UK-US trade agreement either way.
 
I imagine if the UK did decide to unilaterally suspend parts of the protocol, it would do it through Article 16 and claim just cause, rather than straight up saying "we're breaking international law". How that would go down outside of Europe, I'm not sure. I think America would fully back the EU, though probably not to the extent of implementing trade or diplomatic sanctions.

I don't think Jeffrey Donaldson wanting to be English and Marks & Spencer refusing to put " Only for consumption in Northern Ireland' can be classified a just cause.
The DUP are Johnson's useful idiots for the moment.
 
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I imagine if the UK did decide to unilaterally suspend parts of the protocol, it would do it through Article 16 and claim just cause, rather than straight up saying "we're breaking international law". How that would go down outside of Europe, I'm not sure. I think America would fully back the EU, though probably not to the extent of implementing trade or diplomatic sanctions.

We will all soon find out: https://www.theguardian.com/politic...moves-saying-brexit-deal-must-be-renegotiated

"Boris Johnson has rejected Brussels’ latest attempt to iron out problems with the post-Brexit arrangements for Northern Ireland, insisting that the withdrawal agreement signed last year must be renegotiated.

A series of proposals published by the European Commission on Monday with the aim of easing implementation of the Northern Ireland protocol were said to be insufficient for the scale of the problems.

A UK government spokesperson said the two sides instead needed “comprehensive and durable solutions”. David Frost, the minister responsible for Brexit issues, has said that without a major change to the legal text of the protocol, the government will consider triggering article 16 of the EU-UK agreement to suspend parts of the deal."
 
Brussels puts hold on legal action against UK over Brexit deal breach
Brussels has paused legal action against the UK government in an attempt to de-escalate tensions over customs rules on goods entering Northern Ireland.

The European Commission said on Tuesday that it would freeze an infringement process triggered in March over the UK’s breaching of the terms of the post-Brexit Northern Ireland protocol, which requires checks on goods entering Northern Ireland from the UK mainland.

The commission said the pause would help “provide the necessary space to reflect on these issues and find durable solutions to the implementation of the protocol”.
https://www.ft.com/content/e1b98107-bac9-4d3f-a893-fa63cb2eaf3b
 
Nothing says "fast moving economy" like a slow moving ship that now costs the taxpayer £250 million.



This thing won't be used for trade missions. It'll be used for Tory sex parties.

I notice it hasn't been given a name yet. It'll probably be sent around the world to promote UK values and be called "The Colston".
 
The UK keeps signing treaties despite constantly threatening of breaking international law. Seriously mate how many countries do you think there are who truly care about the GFA?

It is not all about the GFA in isolation.
What it is more about is trust and credibility on an international stage.
 
I notice it hasn't been given a name yet. It'll probably be sent around the world to promote UK values and be called "The Colston".
The "Boris Has A Big Todger" and then they'll say something about playing politics when Labour accuse then of playing politics.
 
So shameless :lol: it’s actually getting funny how much they can take the p… out of all of us and the rest of us morons seem to cheer them to the rafters :lol:
 
A ship will promote UK around the globe. These guys are shameless.
What is it even supposed to achieve? When's the last time that sort of thing had any noticeable effect? (Assuming it won't be a controversy-stirring ship like that abortion boat.)
 
Are they still trying to blame Covid for the empty supermarket shelves when everyone knows it's Brexit that caused it?
 
I mean, is it even surprising?

This was always going to be the approach - blame all the extra costs of Brexit on the EU's bitterness that the UK left and reclaimed its former glory. It is exactly the Government's approach to the Protocol.

How dare they notice we have left the EU and treat us as if we are no longer part of the EU.
 
Jesus that’s an infuriating read.

Come on. Nobody could have predicted this and the Remoaners wasted 5 years of preparation time trying to tell people exactly what would happen instead of waving flags on their funeral March. There is simply no way the required amount of people could have been employed to do exactly the amount of work that everyone knew would be necessary.
 
That just blows the mind, how the feck are the negative effects of Brexit that everyone warned about (and were told by Boris and co. would not happen) somehow reasons why the UK was right to leave. What a bunch of weapons.

What really frustrates me about that segment is that when a rational argument is put to them the response is to bring vaccines into it. It's just bizarre and nothing to do with the conversation.

We're not in the EU anymore so will be subject to the same visa charges as other non-EU countries so it's nothing to do with bitterness. How can they not understand that?
 
After all that winning they're still not happy, it seems.

Brexiters waiting at the station awaiting the arrival of the Brexit train delivering all the benefits.



I want to slap everyone of them. :mad:
 
What really frustrates me about that segment is that when a rational argument is put to them the response is to bring vaccines into it. It's just bizarre and nothing to do with the conversation.

We're not in the EU anymore so will be subject to the same visa charges as other non-EU countries so it's nothing to do with bitterness. How can they not understand that?

Even more infuriating, there is no EU vaccine program each country did what it wanted to do, also it's very easy to be vaccinated in France.
 
Even more infuriating, there is no EU vaccine program each country did what it wanted to do, also it's very easy to be vaccinated in France.

They'll never change no matter what happens;
Most of the major EU countries will pass the UK on vaccinations by the end of August as well. That Owen Jones hedging his bets after Corbyn's and Starmer's Brexit performances. He also thought Venezuela was a well-run country.
 
They'll never change no matter what happens;
Most of the major EU countries will pass the UK on vaccinations by the end of August as well.

Aye, I said this back in Jan when many were so desperately trying to claim the vaccines as a Brexit victory. The UK was always going to quickly be caught up and would still have amongst the highest figures in Europe for excess deaths despite this extremely short lived “victory”.
Not surprisingly that’s exactly what has transpired.
 
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They'll never change no matter what happens;
Most of the major EU countries will pass the UK on vaccinations by the end of August as well. That Owen Jones hedging his bets after Corbyn's and Starmer's Brexit performances. He also thought Venezuela was a well-run country.

A quick look at the full vaccination rates and it seems that the UK is at 58.1% while France is at 59.5%(ECDC's figures). Is that correct?
 
No words.


Mind numbing and infuriating stupidity.

If it weren't for my decision to dissociate for my mental health, think I'd be banging my head against the wall in tears again.

They can't understand the concept of being a 3rd country.

Also had to laugh at the 'we're an open country' line. I know so many non Europeans who even before Brexit would come to Europe, travel around the mainland with the Schengen and avoid the UK. Either because the fees and general attitude of our visa staff are prohibitive or they'd get randomly rejected with no explanation, even as they got the Schengen without issue.

And they're still babbling on about vaccines ffs. They're about 6 months late.

Idiots.
 
Also had to laugh at how £6 is going to make the holiday unaffordable now.
 
A quick look at the full vaccination rates and it seems that the UK is at 58.1% while France is at 59.5%(ECDC's figures). Is that correct?

I'd imagine you're looking at the UK total population there (including children) and adults only for France.

I do know that Spain has 100% overtaken the UK in terms of fully vaccinated percentage and a lot of other European countries are not far behind anymore.

The 'vaccine brexit victory' (which was always a fake victory as it had nothing to do with being in the EU) was always going to be short lived.

Not to mention that even if it wasn't, the triumphalism about it from some was incredibly strange. Even if the mainland continued to lag behind, its not a good thing to have your neighbours, biggest trading partner, biggest destination of your tourists, the biggest source of tourists to your own country, a place where many British people call home, a place where many residents in the UK come from and still have family, struggling because of raging covid.

Again. Idiots
 
Me too, my first thought was, “feck me the EU visa is cheap as!!” :Then she started banging on about unaffordability :lol:

Had to drop £150 for a visa to China a few years ago!

These people are shameless.

(I should clarify 'these peoples' are Brexiteers like her and not a barely disguised, quasi-racist term about the Chinese).
 
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I'd imagine you're looking at the UK total population there (including children) and adults only for France.

I do know that Spain has 100% overtaken the UK in terms of fully vaccinated percentage and a lot of other European countries are not far behind anymore.

The 'vaccine brexit victory' (which was always a fake victory as it had nothing to do with being in the EU) was always going to be short lived.

Not to mention that even if it wasn't, the triumphalism about it from some was incredibly strange. Even if the mainland continued to lag behind, its not a good thing to have your neighbours, biggest trading partner, biggest destination of your tourists, the biggest source of tourists to your own country, a place where many British people call home, a place where many residents in the UK come from and still have family, struggling because of raging covid.

Again. Idiots

That's possible.
 
A quick look at the full vaccination rates and it seems that the UK is at 58.1% while France is at 59.5%(ECDC's figures). Is that correct?

The last figures from yesterday I saw was France at 53% totally vaccinated but France are vaccinating so many more than the UK over the last couple of months or so that we should overtake them if the current rates of vaccination continue within two weeks . Some countries have already overtaken the UK and others will do so very soon. So even that Brexit lie will be another one for the bin soon. But it will be ignored.