Things that were not on the side of the bus #483
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Expect mass riotingThings that were not on the side of the bus #483
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/aug/24/uk-brexit-safety-ukca-mark-eu-ce
UK in Brexit climbdown as safety rule deadline extended
Manufacturers will have an extra year to start using UKCA mark, which is replacing EU’s CE mark
Another disaster put off for a year at least.
UK in Brexit climbdown as safety rule deadline extended
Manufacturers will have an extra year to start using UKCA mark, which is replacing EU’s CE mark
Another disaster put off for a year at least.
That should be a joke but it's very much a possibility.
As a little exercise I have added up all the trade deals claimed by Liz Truss , even though some are not yet signed off including Australia.
The total of all the exports based on 2019 figures with these 68 countries' trade deals have been "negotiated" or copied are equivalent to just the UK's exports to Germany, Ireland and Belgium, just three of the EU countries; Of course these trade deals are more in favour of the other countries with a trade defecit of $54bn / year based on 2019 figures.
Go Global Britain!
The total of all the exports based on 2019 figures with these 68 countries' trade deals have been "negotiated" or copied are equivalent to just the UK's exports to Germany, Ireland and Belgium, just three of the EU countries; Of course these trade deals are more in favour of the other countries with a trade defecit of $54bn / year based on 2019 figures.
Go Global Britain!
The delivery driver shortage, a big percentage of which is a direct result of Brexit is starting to have an effect on the supermarket shelves. Lots of empty sections.
And the government insisting that it is a problem for the industry to solve itself just showes how our the touch and in denial thay are.
Nobody told the public about that risk. And too few people in the UK are remotely interested in doing that job. Too much like hard work...
Sorry to be stupid but how can you run out of milkshakes when they are made in store? Presumably the milk and ice cream are local to U.K. so it’s what the flavoured powder?Things that were not on the side of the bus #483
It's the cotton wool and reclaimed gym mats I believe.
Even if all the ingredients and packaging came from the UK, they haven't got enough drivers to distribute them to all the outlets.
Didnt the police get loads of calls when KFC ran out of chicken?
So yeah probably going to be similar this time
That is bonkers if it’s literally just shortage of drivers
Brexit is bonkers. Won't be just McD and KFC that will be affected.
This is only the beginning. But they were warned.
I've been reading that the real impact will be in January 2022, one year after the official exit. Everyone seems to be sticking to the line that its Covid, but you don't see empty shelves or shortages in other European countries.
It will be gradual. The UK still haven't started doing the customs checks on goods arriving from the EU. They've put back the UKCA certification to 2023, this will be a major impact few seem aware of.
They've still got the grace period in NI ongoing. Various other grace periods which will all be over by 2023/2024. By then they should finally have realised the big mistake. Hopefully the pandemic will be soon be under control and can no longer be used as an excuse.
But there's always the chance they will break international law and make it even worse.
I was happier before I googled that.
Just to be pedantic. We are seeing empty shelves/shortages in Ireland. But only for goods with UK suppliers!
A lot of people just won't take certain jobs even if they need one. Or at least, I know from the Netherlands, for example, that warehouses would have big issues with loading/unloading trucks if migrant workers were to be banned from entering the country all of a sudden. They're happy to take the work that Dutch citizens won't.
You are right, it’s the same in the U.K. I would have thought though that with the pandemic effects people would want work, any work
Actually, I'm also reading about Canada and the Netherlands that there's a general shortage of workers. Employment levels are going back to what they were, and those that remain unemployed can't be retooled easily to switch sectors (which is what getting employed would often required). So there aren't even a lot of people desperate for jobs, at least in those countries.
Lazy feckers
It's this fecking easy, isn't it John:
Brexiter admitting it's Brexit that has caused the problem and that the problem actually exists. Is this progress?
For how much longer will the UK entrust the running of the country by simpletons.
I used to work in a warehouse during high school, vacations and weekends. The people there were mainly people my age, some uni students and some old people (I guess some of them were in their 30s, so ancient to me at the time), and the turnover of staff was crazy.
The way it worked was that you'd go get a paper listing what the customer wanted, go collect the stuff in containers and place them outside the loading dock where the trucks would park. I survived by listening to music and podcasts, but man was it boring. The only perks were pretty decent pay with awesome overtime for a job needing no qualifications, and it being a company producing food you got quite a lot of free stuff. Years later I ran into someone who still worked there, and they'd gotten this new system where instead of paper lists an electronic device would say out loud what you were supposed to pick up and where, meaning that you couldn't listen to music anymore. I can't even imagine doing that shit without a distraction, I'd rather off myself honestly (not really, but).
You'd lift thousands of kgs every day as well, I imagine it's not good long term.
You will already know that as far as Brexit goes, those responsible are not only in denial, but those millions who were taken in by all the lies will never admit there is a problem.
For those who actually understand, the problems are just going to have to play themselves out.
I did a couple of stints in warehouses. Among all the student jobs I had, it's one of the ones I liked best as I was moving around all the time. (God I hated conveyer belt jobs! My years in a supermarket were also fun - luckily I never had to be a cashier.) I didn't listen to music either, I just kept busy and chatted with colleagues.
In the late 90s, I was loading and unloading trucks: stacking boxes on pallets or taking them off pallets and stacking them in the truck. Back then, I was mostly working with people of Ditch origin. I did this again in 2010 after finishing my PhD (most depressing period of my life; the work was nice but I just couldn't shake the 'is this why I studied for ages?!' feeling). At that point, all the loading/unloading was done by work migrants from Eastern Europe, and what I was doing was more like order picking (like your story), plus I got to drive around pallet carts (not forklifts, you need a license for those).
That's just anecdotal of course, but it fits with what I'm reading in the news about employment dynamics in the Netherlands. If they did a hard Nexit, Dutch produce farmers and warehouses (both very big industries for a country the size of the Netherlands) would be really really REALLY screwed for labour.
But when the problems become so obvious that even the dimmest Brexiter can see them, what happens then? There's no way back unless there's a massive change in British politics and the electorate.
Even the nonsense Raab said about the UK joining the CPTPP, five years after the referendum, people are still swallowing the lies and not just Brexiters.
Truss has already claimed free trade agreements with 8 of the 11 CPTPP members. The 3 remaining are Brunei, Malaysia and New Zealand giving a massive export total of $3bn per year, less than what the UK exports to Denmark and this is supposed to be the hope for the UK. It's mindblowing.
Lack of blood test tubes for GPs and the NHS really should be a bigger story I feel than currently is.
They will then follow the government line and blame the pandemic. Anything but Brexit I am afraid.
Most people attention span, particularly when it comes to something they have little or no interest in like politics, is very limited.
Yes there are gaps on the shelves. And yes, that was predicted by Remain.
But there were gaps on the shelves during the hight of the pandemic. So it is nothing new.
And despite all the systematic lies and abject failures of the Tories, Boris remains firmly in charge.
There is no real appetite for a change. It is going to have to take something massive for there to be any sort of appetite for a change.
We are just going to have to accept that whether we live it or not.
Sorry to sound so negative. But it is what it is. Apathetic.
As long as Boris is in charge his mates will stay
Is there a comprehensive list of all the brexit problems that have come to pass somewhere?
Is the driver shortage caused by mostly by Brexit or Covid
If I'm not mistaken its a mix of a lack of "local" drivers in normal time, brexit/covid making it more complicated to cross borders. The lack of local drivers was filled by drivers and companies from the continent which is less the case today.
an interesting read and how the hillsborough disaster influenced political opinions 30 years later
https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...m-in-england/F530F8AB25994AD7C4BC1D0CAFAD75CF
https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...m-in-england/F530F8AB25994AD7C4BC1D0CAFAD75CF
While there's a lot going on, we're not having these problems in Ireland so Brexit is a major factor.
Reports say a combination of:
Brexit, tens of thousands less EU drivers.
Pandemic.
Unattractive working conditions.
Increased waiting times to load/unload due to general manpower shortages.
Apparently, the average age of truck drivers in the UK is over 57. And very few younger people are interested in that job.
Brexit is a factor but it's not the only one. In fact one could argue that the reason you don't have these issues is because of Brexit since it forced the development of direct traffic from the continent to Ireland.
It's only the UK that is affected though.
Are you suggesting Ireland and the UK would both have these issues, if not for Brexit?
I made my point clear and mentioned three reason that affect the UK in a particular way, one of them being brexit. I don't really know what to tell you outside of it, other countries don't necessarily lack drivers or international trucking companies, they aren't affected by the crossing of borders due to brexit and they aren't affected by the crossing of borders due to covid because many countries have agreements on that point.
At no point did I say that Brexit wasn't one of the reason, I specifically named brexit as one of them.