No, the UK could always have had control of both EU and non-EU immigration but decided not to. As long as Brexiters are happy that immigration from whichever country the immigrants come from continues to rise. I was also born yesterday.
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No, the UK could always have had control of both EU and non-EU immigration but decided not to. As long as Brexiters are happy that immigration from whichever country the immigrants come from continues to rise. I was also born yesterday.
Almost like other factors could’ve been at play.
You mean like unelected people running the UK or all these trade deals the UK could have had. Can't remember what the other lame excuses were.
It woz the bots
If there was a vote tomorrow about lowering None EU immigration to the U.K, what do you think the result would be?
If there was a vote tomorrow about lowering None EU immigration to the U.K, what do you think the result would be?
I would hazard a guess that they would vote to lower it, but that's probably for next year when the EU is no longer a scapegoat.
i thought you would have more conviction than that considering everyone is a big racist.
but if people in the UK want to lower immigration, successive governments promise to lower immigration, and yet nobody lowers immigration, who do you blame for the outcome of the vote?
You can't be racist to vote against people of the same race but you can be xenophobic, the other reason was stupidity.
Successive governments, ie the Tories promised to lower immigration but didn't but nevertheless now have a massive majority. Racism and xenophobia comes from ignorance and stupidity. Seems to be a common factor - gullibility and stupidity.
Waiting to see who gets the blame next year for their woes. I suppose it's whoever the tabloids decide.
Foreigners? Leftys?
The morons who keep voting for the party breaking that promise?
Which is also the party voted in, once again, to complete brexit, which came about because of said partys broken promises.
Voting inception.
When i came here 20 years ago i had to check in with the alien police every 3 months to confirm my work status, that's not the case anymore so yes, people can just walk in. That was in fact the argument of remainers, they wanted the freedom to just walk in, it's discrimination and protectionism on a massive scale. Choose to call ot freedom if you want.
I'm still waiting to hear of one, just one, positive outcome of Brexit.
But that is the choice of the NL government, each country has it's own policy and regulations, Belgium is not the same, France is not the same. So the objection by the Brexiters is to the UK government's immigration policy. Likewise as they can control both they could also allow free movement plus no checks on non-EU citizens but they don't.
If you become a burden on the state you could be sent back if the government so choose to.
Then you've got morons like Farage shouting at the sea looking for refugees coming across the channel in boats. In or out of the EU the UK and continental Europe are not moving away from each other plus most illegal immigrants simply overstay their visas and most of them come by plane.
Well exactly, it’s our government that have chosen not to enforce these rules.
BLUE. PASSPORTS!
I still don’t get your point. Or did you even have one? Your bullshit liberal centrism has got us into this mess because it made people like you a lot of money. Please tell us what year you stopped voting conservative and why?
you’re another one. Somebody who’s lived in Australian middle class land for so long they wouldn’t know a leftie if it slapped them in the face
You mean the conservatives like Paul has been voting for all his life? Now he’ll tell you he hasn’t voted for them for years. What a bloody hero he is. He really took a stand there when they got nasty in 2009. Only 30 years late
My point is that if Brexiters voted Brexit because of immigration - it's the UK's immigration policy they should have voted against. Please don't tell me Brexit was a protest vote, I cannot take people who say this seriously.
Am I supposedly a liberal or a conservative or a lefty.
Give you a clue, first time I voted in a GE was for Labour, I haven't voted in a General election this century and in 2009 I wasn't living in the UK.
I will also give you some good news, I will never live or vote in the UK ever again.
Chlorine chicken
Less English tourists in France, can live in hope.
But but but Project Fear.
Its fantastic this thread is still going, we've had Covid-19, Lockdowns, BLM, Donald Trump dodging impeachment and people are still going on about Brexit! It must be 'time warp' syndrome, look forward to the day they start toppling EU symbols, tearing down the 12 stars flag, and cancelling the Eurovision contest.... oh sorry they already have!
almost like it's still going on and we're careering towards a no deal, isn't it?
Yes, it's almost as if the coming disaster isn't going to happen. Panicking much?
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-customs-clearance-centre-to-be-built-in-kent
Indeed and I think the next 6 months will see brexit in the news more and more
I mean we chose this week not to be involved in the eu covid vaccination project and more and more things like that will happen.
Then in January no doubt we will have people queuing at airports... trucks stuck at ports and business having issues with tariff and other issues...
Plus even if we leave with no deal all that happens is that we then start a new round of negotiations to get a deal...
This thread will be around for a few years yet
Go feck yourself Jean.
Brexit will be around for a looooong time, the fastest way to have end it was to knock it on its head, which obviously wasn’t going to happen.
African teacher: "what do you want to be when you grow up"
African child: "I want to destroy England by claiming benefits"
Also is it a fake account? She has the typical first name last name numbers username that is used to spout right-wing nonsense
Good Question. Might be an auto username given by Twitter on sign-up?
If she's so worried about people fecking things up for future generations then why did she vote for Brexit, the selfish old daft twat.
Don't mistake her kindness for weakness
I also hate folk that say daft shit like that too. Nobody mistakes kindness for weakness unless they're the kind of person who is only kind when they feel like it and act like being kind is some wondrous gift that everyone should applaud them for. Grrrrr I need a Capri Sun now.
This Xmas period is going to be a mess.
This thread (and Brexit) will continue to be a huge discussion going into the future, barring the complete and total collapse of the EU as an organisation.
Which is something both the Brexiteers and some of the more devastated remainers (of which I admit I was one initially) fail to grasp. Deal/ no deal by this December, this will not be the end of what I'm sure will be constant readjustments of our relationship with this huge trading block less than an hour from our doorsteps.
Yes it seems you are right, it is the disappointed remainers now who are looking back wistfully to a time they perceive as 'salad days and sunny uplands' when the EU worked like a 'well oiled machine' constantly churning in favour of the UK.
It is true issues arising from our Brexit from the EU will continue going forward, we wont stop trading with them, nor them with us and both sides will need to reach compromises, but ours will be on the basis of what is best for the UK not 27 other countries.
The UK is no longer a member of the EU, but certainly a major trading partner for the EU and as such compromises will be reached and nobody will get all they want and the world will still turn on its axis (at least we think it will!) and so it seems, there will still be Caf members posting about Brexit!
This is not the beginning of the end, the UK still haven't reached the end of the beginning and it is clear that many (brexiters and remainers) haven't got a clue what awaits them or what Brexit actually means. To top it all they've got an unbelievably incompetent government to lead them through it.
Of course there will be members posting about Brexit. The majority of the posters on here are British or Irish and therefore this decision affects our lives greatly.
And like I said, whatever is signed by this December is only the end of the beginning really. Deal/ no deal, it almost doesn't matter. The relationship will continue to evolve.
And in a world dominated by two increasingly at odds superpowers and a large bloc acting economically as one, smaller states who either wish to go it alone (the UK) or who are alone by geography (Australia/NZ /South Korea/Japan) will have no choice but to increasingly pick Sides between the two or potentially the three. And just as parties run on foreign policy now regarding how they'll approach China/Russia/the Middle East, they will also run on how they'll approach the EU going forward.
Australia is already seeing it as it tries to stand up to China and we will soon see it too every time we try to stand up to China/ USA.