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Fingeredmouse said:
Metropolitan areas absolutely have felt the impact of austerity. Glasgow's time traveled back to the early 80s, Cardiff's a shithole again, Bristol's in some state...admittedly Manchester seems to be thriving but I rarely spend long enough to notice. There are homeless people sleeping rough in every city in numbers I have never seen in my lifetime.
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Manchester is on its arse, mate. Ignore the hipster cafes and huge rise in property 'value' in the wealthy suburbs and look at the rest of it. Massive homelessness problem, crime and drugs everywhere and no police presence as central government has repeatedly cut funding.

Maybe by 'metropolitan areas' he just means 'London'.
 
Charlie Foley said:
This guy on was my EU law professor if anyone wants to listen to him discuss Brexit for 5 minutes on Irish radio
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Yes, don't disagree with anything he said.
Although most of it should be obvious, obvious things have clearly been overlooked in Britain since the beginning of this farce.

Episode 1 part two soon to start, could be even more farcical than the first bit.
 
NWRed said:
Your (unsubstantiated) point was that areas with relatively high investment voted remain, whereas areas with relatively low investment voted leave. If that is true, then given that the areas you claimed received higher investment also have higher levels of immigration, it completely backs up the argument that the problem was austerity and not immigration.
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It's actually both, and they're interlinked. People see the effects of austerity, whilst also seeing people coming into the country, taking 'their' jobs, houses, school and hospital places, and they believe the reason they have nothing is that it' s being given to foreigners. They think the reason their pensions are under threat is because people are crossing the channel on dinghies and being given free houses, benefits and schooling. It's why Foreign Aid is so often criticsised by Brexit voters, because they think that if we didn't have a Foreign Aid budget then we'd have loads of money for domestic areas.

The right-wing media is the catalyst for people to blame immigration for the issues caused by austerity, it's why the Tories are so pro-brexit, because it gives them a scapegoat to direct people's anger towards their own failings.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
Yes, don't disagree with anything he said.
Although most of it should be obvious, obvious things have clearly been overlooked in Britain since the beginning of this farce.

Episode 1 part two soon to start, could be even more farcical than the first bit.
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Agreed. Nothing particularly groundbreaking but I’ve enjoyed checking in on his writing/interviews every so often as it’s nice to hear a reasoned, well-informed opinion on it. Can take much of what he says to the bank too, he knows his shit
 
C3Pique said:
It's actually both, and they're interlinked. People see the effects of austerity, whilst also seeing people coming into the country, taking 'their' jobs, houses, school and hospital places, and they believe the reason they have nothing is that it' s being given to foreigners. They think the reason their pensions are under threat is because people are crossing the channel on dinghies and being given free houses, benefits and schooling. It's why Foreign Aid is so often criticsised by Brexit voters, because they think that if we didn't have a Foreign Aid budget then we'd have loads of money for domestic areas.

The right-wing media is the catalyst for people to blame immigration for the issues caused by austerity, it's why the Tories are so pro-brexit, because it gives them a scapegoat to direct people's anger towards their own failings.
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Unless I've misunderstood you you're saying exactly the same thing I did, people are suffering because of austerity but mistakenly blame immigration.

I didn't state it in my post but this is obviously due to the right wing press, misleading online campaigns like vote leave and people like Farage.
 
DavidDeSchmikes said:
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I think we pretty much do know, the Tories still wouldn't have backed it so there still wouldn't have been a true majority for it (ie one that could pass a meaningful vote). The indicative votes were, in hindsight, a kind of nice summer holiday away from grim reality.
 
P-Nut said:
Exactly the arguments I've had with loads around my area to.

They are convinced that immigration will fall drastically and they'll be able to get rid of the Asians around the area.

They openly say this to me, despite the fact my grandparents would have been subjected to the same racist shite they are spouting. If ever I need to realise how the country got into this mess, 5 minutes back in my hometown informs me well enough.
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Tis what they believe...



"You see that Bernie. That's what you voted for, that is" (old MWExp joke)
 
To be fair, isn't there a good chance immigration will fall drastically once your economy completely tanks? Maybe that's their master-plan...
 
CassiusClaymore said:
Tis what they believe...



"You see that Bernie. That's what you voted for, that is" (old MWExp joke)
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I like how he tells her that she must live under his customs yet he can't even fecking type using autocorrect in English properly.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
I like how he tells her that she must live under his customs yet he can't even fecking type using autocorrect in English properly.
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To be fair, I'm pretty sure that it's the facebook equivalent to a youtube comment. A 14 years old entertaining himself by being offensive.
 
JPRouve said:
To be fair, I'm pretty sure that it's the facebook equivalent to a youtube comment. A 14 years old entertaining himself by being offensive.
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It's far more likely that he is >50 than <18. And if the past last few years has shown us anything, it's that it's generally not as benign as someone just being offensive to be edgy.
 
nimic said:
It's far more likely that he is >50 than <18. And if the past last few years has shown us anything, it's that it's generally not as benign as someone just being offensive to be edgy.
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You know what I don't think that that person is old, thinking about it I had a 4chan vibe and after having a look, this person is on Gab, is a flat earther and is pretty much on the wrong side of every opinion. It's a either a troll or one of those demented young "alt right" lads, I think that we have all met them at some point.
 
JPRouve said:
To be fair, I'm pretty sure that it's the facebook equivalent to a youtube comment. A 14 years old entertaining himself by being offensive.
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Dunno mate, people seem emboldened now. I had someone call me a Paki on Saturday night, in London City.

I've lived in Basingstoke and Devon and have experienced it there, but not here in London for years. And this guy was a manager out with his staff for a Xmas do, and was at least 40.
 
Peter van der Gea said:
Dunno mate, people seem emboldened now. I had someone call me a Paki on Saturday night, in London City.

I've lived in Basingstoke and Devon and have experienced it there, but not here in London for years. And this guy was a manager out with his staff for a Xmas do, and was at least 40.
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I know but that's not why I had my doubts. It's the list of grievances, this isn't a list from someone "normal". But I was wrong anyway because it was the other option that I didn't mention which is your far-right 4chan, Gab and other "alternative" platforms member.
 
It’s absolutely fine if the UK ends up like Greece as long as we LEAVE
 
Handing the UK over to the Tories for five years because we need to Get Brexit Done is like playing Russian Roulette with a six shot revolver loaded with seven bullets, and instead of saying "hang on a second, maybe this will actually kill me" we just say "feck it, can't turn back now just hurry up and get on with it"

And then, this is the best bit; Boris sends your kids the bill for the bullet you've shot yourself with.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
Handing the UK over to the Tories for five years because we need to Get Brexit Done is like playing Russian Roulette with a six shot revolver loaded with seven bullets, and instead of saying "hang on a second, maybe this will actually kill me" we just say "feck it, can't turn back now just hurry up and get on with it"

And then, this is the best bit; Boris sends your kids the bill for the bullet you've shot yourself with.
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More like doing keyhole surgery with a machete.

Yes it will get the job done, but it'll probably be worse than it was before.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
Handing the UK over to the Tories for five years because we need to Get Brexit Done is like playing Russian Roulette with a six shot revolver loaded with seven bullets, and instead of saying "hang on a second, maybe this will actually kill me" we just say "feck it, can't turn back now just hurry up and get on with it"

And then, this is the best bit; Boris sends your kids the bill for the bullet you've shot yourself with.
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You are more optomistic than I am.

The only upside personally is that it has put the final nail in the coffin of the idea of returning to the UK to retire. Probably wasn't ever going to happen but I don't really recognise the place any more. Which is really sad.
 


This is starting to get very Orwellian. Parliament completely blocked out of decisions on brexit and now they're basically saying it'll all be secret too.
 
Smores said:


This is starting to get very Orwellian. Parliament completely blocked out of decisions on brexit and now they're basically saying it'll all be secret too.
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But the thing is, they're not wrong. Leavers actually don't want to know any of the details, they just want it done, hence all the "leave means leave" bullshit.
 
Mogget said:
But the thing is, they're not wrong. Leavers actually don't want to know any of the details, they just want it done, hence all the "leave means leave" bullshit.
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True, we're run by a populist leader. Remainers aren't the disenfranchised so they don't count in the governments considerations.
 
Penna said:
The Brexit Bill's been passed with a big majority, 358 to 234.
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Yay. Now Brexit can Get Done and we can start preparing for the food rationing. It's a good thing that we won't have any rights or food standards because it'll make it easier to explain to the kids why there's sawdust in their soup.
 
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