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Apparently extending to not remembering how crap the privately owned trains are currently.
The BBC are just awful.
They are. I find Kuennsberg in particular to be especially obsequious to anything related to the views and interests of who resides in No. 10 Downing Street.
We've been being bantered for 3 years. Banter nation over here.
Its been posted million times on here but the Chomsky interview with Andrew Marr showed just how useless the ''big named'' BBC journalists are.
That's not my memory. The service was adequate and way cheaper than now.
Every time i go home i am shocked at how shit trains are in uk. Fkin expensive too.
Yep. Thats how i remember it.
It was like all things nationalised. A basic service that could be improved but once you figured it out you were good. Those who say it should make a profit are talking bollocks. Besides, there are all sorts of other savings like less cars on the road which reduces stress levels in people and improves general health and productivity.
Me too, 1959, a day trip to Blackpool from Manchester, the sun was shining, pie chips and peas at Pablo's, ride on the donkeys, ice cream on the South Pier. Train left on time and returned on time, but the carriage door window wouldn't pull up (them leather strap things) and the smoke poured in all the way back to Manchester, we all looked like we just come up from the coal face.
Happy days!
Seems like memories have been wiped.
It will never make a profit - just pay for it through your taxes - Britain's favourite pastime.
Yes, that's what these institutions are. Roads don't make a profit directly but you wouldn't say those should be privatised.
Lines which were nationalised in 1948 because the companies that ran them were also losing a fortune and were going bust, so the government had to step in or watch the railway disappear.
The bit where you say someone has to pay for it is correct though, which doesn't necessarily mean nationalisation or privatisation, but it does mean public money.
Only after the Japanese railways were firstly re-built or newly constructed to amazing standards using enormous quantities of taxpayer's money. The privatised companies paid nothing for that, the cost was written off by the Japanese government.
I don't have any dogmatic political belief in either nationalisation or privatisation, what works best will be different in different circumstances, but in the case of UK railways the objectives and implementation of privatisation were dishonest and could almost have been designed to be inefficient. Unfortunately any changes will most probably once again be made for political rather than practical reasons, whether by right or left leaning governments.
Whatever side you're on, it's obvious the BBC political coverage is bull.
The BBC are just awful.
She's got to be nice, otherwise they won't invite her back to bawl like a fishwife are MPs coming into No10. I always find the 'spectacle' of 'journalists' shouting out questions outside Downing Street as the the most idiotic and embarrassing thing.
It's so utterly pointless as well as annoying. As was persevering for months doing live broadcasts next to loons shouting what was left of their brains out on the other side of the road, instead of taking people somewhere quiet to interview them.
Agree on that one too, they somehow think it's clever to do an outside broadcast from Westminster. wtf for? So we can see a view of the Houses of Parliament and suffer the presenters being drowned out by protesters.
Well, TV is a visual medium. Just having blokes sat in a studio would be boring after a while.
I quite like the sky news encampment outside Westminster. Hearing protesters is actually a relief and being quite exposed in a public space with noise made for some better unpolished interviews.
She's a detestable little worm.
She was a Reporter on the spot so presumably has first hand knowledge of the conditions at the time.... yes? No need to invoke the anti beeb/Laura K conspiracy theories at every opportunity.
Dont forget smoking carriages
Just came home to these news that lying Boris can't even withstand a bit of protests.
What a precious little btch. No balls, no brains, no honor.
What a precious little btch. No balls, no brains, no honor.
Yes agreed but part of the network did disappear and in those days many fewer people had alternative transport such as a car and it still lost a lot of money. So yes lots of public money plus capable personel/management with an incentive to run the system efficiently would be needed.
I love that she opens by writing 'whatever side you are on' before launching into her best attempt to exonerate Johnson without even offering a hint of criticism for his cowardice.
That's not fair, they were going to shout near him.
Tbf Channel 4 News, which is openly remain, said the same thing.
Swinson is really doubling down on not propping up either a Corbyn or BoJo government today.
Probably the smartest strategy in the short game (i.e. to get as many votes in the election as possible) but this will most likely come back to bite her in the arse post-GE. What really is her long game if she doesn’t get 300 seats? (as she most likely won’t). feck knows
Probably the smartest strategy in the short game (i.e. to get as many votes in the election as possible) but this will most likely come back to bite her in the arse post-GE. What really is her long game if she doesn’t get 300 seats? (as she most likely won’t). feck knows
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Pretty damning & open from Cameron
Politically right leaning, socially left leaning.
Well, this aged well...
Already getting that american chicken?
Mmm cockroaches and rat shit
As a guessSwinson is really doubling down on not propping up either a Corbyn or BoJo government today.
Probably the smartest strategy in the short game (i.e. to get as many votes in the election as possible) but this will most likely come back to bite her in the arse post-GE. What really is her long game if she doesn’t get 300 seats? (as she most likely won’t). feck knows
Agree to supporting a government for a 2nd ref
But not beyond that
Genuinely think libs have scored a bit of an own goal because even if they stop brexit they have opened up any parties standing in a future ge on leave with no referendum
Nah, I don’t think that second part is an own goal at all. It’s both safe in the knowledge she won’t win a majority and in the knowledge that both Tories and Brexit are sitting on a no-deal ticket without a referendum or deal. She’s merely the counter balance to that. And if she does win a majority then there’s no more clear democratic mandate than that.
But if she doesn’t support any government past a referendum vote then what? A new election after the referendum is done? She’ll be absolutely destroyed in the 2nd election and lose most of the MPs she’s gained. That doesn’t sound smart.
If Boris somehow does get us out on the 31st, Lib Dems be screwed.
They're screwed then. Even if Boris doesn't get us out, even if we get out under the worst possible terms, Boris will hail it as the deal of the century and the Daily Mail will let everyone know how amazing this deal is, how great everything already is seconds into November, how it proves Corbyn and the doubters wrong etc. People will lap it up.
Nothing he says will make me forget that he got us in this mess in the first place and ran a crap remain campaign.