True... who would want poor people to have access to cheaper food (that isn't harmful).
Brexited | the worst threads live the longest
- Thread starter Silva
- Start date
True... who would want poor people to have access to cheaper food (that isn't harmful).
Yeah shipping stuff across the atlantic ocean is famously cheap.
Why would they ship it if it was "awful" and also not cheap? Surely then it wouldn't sell?
The deal will cost EU farmers billions. Oh and it's also terrible for the Amazon, but y'know, whatever
Who do you mean, the Americans or the British? If you mean the Americans the answer is pretty obvious.
You may find it is slightly more expensive to ship from America than Europe, what about the regulations - whose going to check it and will there even be any regulations, don't forget the time factor and if American unregulated food or anything else is in circulation in the UK, it's customs checks all round and a hard border.
My point was that if the food is awful and expensive there would be no market for it rendering any concern over its import moot.
The food would be regulated at source in America prior to export of course.
So it could be too expensive and shipment time is about 28 days from say Boston to Tilbury.
Food would be regulated at source by who?, the Americans ? products will have to be regulated by UK customs/regulators unless and to what standards? US shipper would have to supply documentation to prove the product complies with UK standards and if UK standards don't meet EU standards...
My post was in reply to a post EU standard environment regarding poor quality and expensive food.
My reply was regarding there being no need to worry about anyone importing poor quality, expensive food; since it would be commercially a non-starter. Conversely if the food were cheaper and safe then it would provide a cheaper means of sustinance for the poorest.
In terms of regulation in this theoretical scenario the UK government would agree that American standards were acceptable for the UK market (so the regulation would occur in the US). Just like products from the EU are currently regulated in the country of origin (to the agreed EU standard)
Let's say it's cheap and is commercially viable. The UK government doesn't know it's safe if it's depending on USA standards which would have a domino effect on making all the fresh food the UK imports from Europe not arrive the same day or the next morning but several days or much longer down the line because the frictionless border would be long gone.
I wasn't talking about the relationship between EU trade. I was merely pointing out the nonsensical contradiction between being fearful of awful but expensive food (an innate contradiction).
If the UK deemed US standards equal to that of the EU they would be just as happy to trust US food (regulated by the US) as they are to trust Polish food (regulated by the EU). In that scenario the UK would know they were safe.
Fair enough but we know US standards are not equal to EU standards.
As I've always considered UK food prices quite cheap thought I'd check it out - saw following website -
https://www.numbeo.com/food-prices/country_result.jsp?country=United+States
Recommended minimum monthly cost per person 2400 calorie intake of western foods , similar food basket(converted to sterling per country)
UK £173
US £255
France £271
Deserves all the misery coming his way.
Interesting.
I assume that is the result of the very fierce competition between the major supermarkets.
We all have a lot to thank Lidl and Aldi for.
Are they not popular in France by the way.
Lidl has been voted best supermarket chain 7 years in a row in France - although in towns local to me, the traditional supermarkets which are close to or next door to Lidl are always much fuller with customers. Perhaps the customers are looking or better quality and more choice and I don't live in a rich area.
I had a look at comparisons of all sorts of things other than food between countries and the UK does pretty well in most things. Think I now know why the Australians call the British whingeing poms.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-credit-benefits-trussell-trust-a8884461.html
Yep, it's never been easier to feed yourself in Britain.
According to that it seems Universal credit and roll out of benefits are to blame despite the UK having almost the cheapest food in Western Europe. Once the UK have left the EU presumably it will be better , or not?
Because they aren't good with irony. Astralians love whingeing about everything and anything.
A lot of Australians are nasty racist arseholes.
I remember reading that the eu had approved bleaching of some foods already, so what is everybody's gripe?
Guess who will have more leverage and impose more favourable conditions
Standard practice on vegetables
EU did not approve on meet as they felt that if people could rely on that it could lead them not to uphold the rest of their hygeine standards
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...l-bust-businesses-no-deal-brexit-was-worth-it
"Jeremy Hunt has said he would willingly tell businesses that go bust because of a no-deal Brexit that their sacrifice was a necessary one, and that he will actively pursue such a course if a new departure plan looks impossible at the start of October."
"Jeremy Hunt has said he would willingly tell businesses that go bust because of a no-deal Brexit that their sacrifice was a necessary one, and that he will actively pursue such a course if a new departure plan looks impossible at the start of October."
Yes, Hunt is into a 'pi**ing contest' with Boris now over Brexit, both of them (seemingly) have finally given up pretending Brexit was ever anything to do with economics and is all about politics and naked power plays. The survival instinct is ingrained and second nature to all Tory politicians and they both now realise they have to make a hard Brexit sound even harder just to retain a hope of hanging on to power.
"Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood... cry God for (Boris/Jeremy), England and a hard, hard, Brexit"
Boris and Jeremy leading their faithful followers to the Promised Land, nevermind job losses, business collapse, it's all necessary to achieve the ultimate goal of having their nurse come from Uzbekistan instead of Romania.
Arguably the same applies when negotiating a deal with the EU doesn't it... I suspect a deal with the USA might actually be quicker to follow finalise
Currently the Uk have the same standards as the EU so that should be theoretically quicker.
Of course the surprise for the Brexiters is that if the UK let their standards slip - they may not satisfy US standards as they found in the 60s trying to sell their cars. Australian standards will be fun.
The Mail, naturally:
I'm shocked.
The Mail, naturally:
Sounds an egg-celent idea but I fear the yolk is on him.
Brexit means Breggsit.
The Mail, naturally:
The Killers are my favorite rap band.
True. About the same percentage as in the UK in my experience.
Settle down cobber.
"Madrid, Spain"
I like it.
Hunt of course was a remainer so instinctively I would prefer him to the blonde one.
But it is perfectly clear that neither stand any chance of delivering on their increasingly bizarre promises.
Brexit by end October. Only one outcome.
A shambolic disaster.
Jeremy Hunt, the underdog in the contest, is proposing a £6bn fund to protect farmers and the fishing industry from a no-deal Brexit, as part of a 10-point plan to prepare the UK for possibly leaving the EU at the end of October without an agreement
All the money they are supposedly saving from the EU payments will be diverted to farmers and fisherman? What about the rest?
NHS of course, haven't you seen the bus?
The Mail has just become a rag for highlighting people facing adversity in the face of their love for Brexit. They should join this forum.