Its a fair point. But imagine the reaction in the UK if this became a possibilty?
That's the main problem, a sensible brexit is a political suicide which kind of shows why the referendum was a bad idea.
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That's the main problem, a sensible brexit is a political suicide which kind of shows why the referendum was a bad idea.
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I'd bet a lot of money that there'll be another Jo Cox style murder if we somehow remain. There's some genuinely psychotic feeling on the leave side.
There's definitely something in the fact that nobody worries about upsetting Remain voters compared to Leave voters. If the positions were reversed would there be as much worry about civil unrest?
The whole thing has a bang of gammon off it. Ageing middle-class white people, confused by modern technology.
You seem to manage alright.
Border problem - which cannot be solved.
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The country will be brought to its knees if it does leave.
I don't understand May's obsession with her deal. She wants a vote so her deal could be voted on again, which surely won't pass again. What's the definition of insanity again?
What's that string supposed to do anyway?
Picture circulating my work on the railway
I managed it once and have been unable to repeat the feat since.
I managed it once and have been unable to repeat the feat since.
Clearly a young man’s game. Us gammons need to rely on the written word.
You are rather optimistic that the UK would have decided what it wants and is actually feasible by 2027.
The Brexit rapporteur for German chancellor Angela Merkel’s CDU party has urged UK politicians not to cause a no-deal Brexit by accident, the Press Association reports. Detlef Seif said:
"The discussion in the United Kingdom has created the impression that a lot of options for action are possible. But only three options exist: To agree to the deal that is on the table, to revoke the withdrawal notification, or to delay the exiting day.
We must urge our British friends that a delay is only possible if the UK takes part in the European parliament elections."
"The discussion in the United Kingdom has created the impression that a lot of options for action are possible. But only three options exist: To agree to the deal that is on the table, to revoke the withdrawal notification, or to delay the exiting day.
We must urge our British friends that a delay is only possible if the UK takes part in the European parliament elections."
That is surprising, I would have thought the last thing the EU wants is the UK involved in its forthcoming elections. It would be like going looking for a gas leak with a naked flame.
Say what you like about the DUP, and many people have
This is easy for them though, as their position on this is the same as their position on everything else. No.
I think he is just making sure that people are aware of the ramifications of a long delay. Nothing new.
I've stopped listening to the EU leaders, they're trying to be seen as supportive of a fellow leader but from the mixed messages it's clear they want a soft brexit instead.
The EU insisted the political declaration was part of the package approved so when they send these messages out they can't pretend changing it isn't an option. We know it is
Yes but if the UK completely change their stance then it's going to take a lot longer.
Changing is an option but there is still only one withdrawal agreement even if the political declaration is changed. If for example the UK suddenly said, OK we'll have a BINO and stay in the CU and SM the WA would have to be rewritten but there's nothing in parliament that is suggesting that at all.
Yes that's true, but we've been in the 'Groundhog day' mode so long now I can't see anything changing until either the No deal kicks in or there is a revocation of A50 and both seem as equally unlikely now after yesterdays pantomime.
Looks that way at the moment. Nothing on the horizon seems to suggest that's going to change.
Trying to think of any solution that can simultaneously have a chance of passing the Commons and not cause the ERG/DUP to bring down the government is very tricky now.
The best I can come up with is a vote to ratify the WA, with a guaranteed referendum on the future relationship to decide between Norway+ and May’s Political Declaration. Basically take the two extremes (no-deal and remain) off the table and offer a referendum on the ‘moderate’ future options.
Could it pass the commons with Labour support?
The best I can come up with is a vote to ratify the WA, with a guaranteed referendum on the future relationship to decide between Norway+ and May’s Political Declaration. Basically take the two extremes (no-deal and remain) off the table and offer a referendum on the ‘moderate’ future options.
Could it pass the commons with Labour support?
Metal wire connecting the 2 rails will appear as if there is a train present and stop other trains being able to run
Jokes on them. Our trains don’t run anyway.
You realise Dunkirk was a retreat? Also why the feck would Ireland leave the EU and why on earth do you think they should be put in that position because of something GB voted for (and NI voted against)? Bloody hell.
The VAST majority of people in NI do not want a border in Ireland - in fact I'd say almost 100% of people with those who want it probably utterly insane. On this issue the DUP represent almost nobody in NI.
Most people who voted for Brexit had no clue about the GFA.
And most still don't to be honest
So they're going to vote just on the WA which is a bit pointless.
A rather obvious trap
A rather obvious trap
From what I'm reading this vote tomorrow would simply be to decide whether leaving with a WA is the new default position?
If that's the case then what happens if the government brings back the same deal for a third meaningful vote? The Speaker has already said that May can't put the exact same deal back in for a third vote if there's no drastic changes to it so what? The government votes in favour of leaving with a WA as the default but there's no WA available to actually go for?
If that's the case then what happens if the government brings back the same deal for a third meaningful vote? The Speaker has already said that May can't put the exact same deal back in for a third vote if there's no drastic changes to it so what? The government votes in favour of leaving with a WA as the default but there's no WA available to actually go for?
Cheers. That's almost terrorism.
My guess, the government take it as passing the entire thing and give approval to the EU. Not sure if they can but I'd bet that's what they'll do.
Essentially a con for the speaker to allow MV3.
I’d say it is.
Yeah it would be sorted pretty quickly, but if it happened all over the place, constantly it would be a bit of a nightmare
Can anyone in laymans term explain to me what on earth is going on, particularly why have the MPs rejected her deal TWICE already, but may possibly accept it THIRD TIME ROUND if she promises to leave as PM. Surely its not about her, but the contents and agreements in the deal?