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The Tories have seemingly collected the most arrogant politicians in the world.
It's quite interesting that they're trying to get more or less the same deal as the EU from an incredibly weakened position. The time frame alone makes the UK desperate and of course the Japanese are well aware of this.
What's worse, Fox was telling them to hurry up.
Surprised he hasn't threatened to send a carrier yet..
Yes just watched it , was shown on Canal+ on Saturday.
But if you were Cummings you would target exactly the people he did, the gullibles, it was too easy.
The UK government having an inflated opinion of themselves? Surely not!
I suppose if nothing else, Brexit has at least made us more aware of the dangers of British exceptionalism.
I suppose if nothing else, Brexit has at least made us more aware of the dangers of British exceptionalism.
That’s not good
So far all I see is about jobs going (as predicted) and very little about job creation
The UK´s representatives in foreign affairs seems woefully inept at even basic diplomacy or social interactions even. They seem to act like the worst of the UK tourists you sometimes run into around the world. I really wonder what kind of stupidity that is being taught at the big fancy Universities in England. If these guys are the best the UK has to offer on the elite political level then i truly fear for the future of the United Kingdom. Scotland would be wise to exit as soon as possible to secure their own future rather than being lead by pure ineptness that exist in England currently.
Yes. The uncertainty is starting to bite. These people are looking 10 years into the future.
The Civic is built at Swindon and one of their first tier suppliers is UYS in Cowley. They make the exhaust systems pretty much exclusively for Honda and employ 2,500. The Company I used to work for manufacture automatic welding fixtures for UYS - they employ 50. In turn that company has about 10 other companies in the supply chain for components of those fixtures. And that's just the exhaust system of the car.
What about all the extra Customs officer posts, Border Police and Port Authority Personnel posts, to handle the expected queues at Dover and the other expanding ports?
Will they not be redeployments from within the civil service because you wont need many civil servants in roles that were directly linked to the EU?
So roughly for one company that could equate to the loss of about 7000 jobs. Christ that is bleak.
The guardian article is even less kind
To start with:
Followed by
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...talks-high-handed-letter-liam-fox-jeremy-hunt
Almost feels like a sketch from the Dave Chappelle show. Cocaine's a helluva drug.
If you lose 1000 jobs in the hospitality sector and then employ 100 people to check this sector, if they follow the regulations, out of the taxpayers money. Do you think that is an economic win situation?
I have a bridge to sell you, but you are apparently already paying down on a few of those...
They will only be needed on the incoming side because we'll be manufacturing sod-all that anyone wants to buy.
At least. As I said that's just the exhaust system supply chain. You've got the body works, chassis, interiors, electronics, drive-train and engines. The total cost in jobs could be in the tens of thousands.
I thought the Home Office and Dept. for Trade were saying recently the exact opposite, Brexit will create more jobs because there will be more transportation problems, including tariff arrangements and such like work to get through when we leave?
I didn't say it was an economic win situation, please read the post! I was simply pointing out some 'job creation' opportunities as a direct result of Brexit.
I hope you don't get stuck with your bridge.
You are clutching to straws.
Even you are admitting, that Brexit is responsible for losing tax paying jobs in the private sector. And then you talk about job creation "opportunities" paid out of tax money by the state. So you lose tax income, while you have to spend more money as a state.
Where does that money come from? It is either higher taxes (paid by you), higher debt (either paid by you or future generations) or that the state slashes services (expenses). Or all of that. So Brexit doesn't get you 350 Million per week for the NHS, it makes it more likelier that there will be even less money for the NHS.
It won’t blame brexit but it can’t help considering the new trade deal with the EU and Japan ending any import tariffs, which the UK won’t be part of, of course.
Oh right. I would've thought that there would be civil servants working in admin jobs that would be preparing material for UK ministers travelling to the EU and all those meeting groups. With Brexit these civil servants will likely be freed up to do admin in other areas like ports etc. That would be my guess. May have no basis in reality but if there hasnt been a recruitment drive yet then I would say that is the plan. Have the Home office or Trade advertised for these jobs?
They aren’t going to make up for the thousands of jobs negatively impacted
"Oh I see you are an expert arc welder.We have a job just for you then: Customs officer in Dover. You won't get a better offer than this !"
Precisely.
Napoleon was right.
Tater Tots?Napoleon was right.
He allegedly said that England was a nation of shopkeepers.
Your customs officers wont be selling anything. They'll be completing paperwork for your goods going abroad and verifying it for EU/all other goods coming into the UK. It will take a while for the goods to actually make it to the shopkeepers.
The point is that shopkeepers don't make anything. Neither do customs officers. The idea of customs officials back-filling lost highly skilled manufacturing jobs fills me with total sadness.
I have always been a believer in the adage that there is no wealth without production. And there isn't. Rather than watch our manufacturing industry fizzle out or go abroad this country should be doing the complete opposite. Seriously investing in manufacturing, technology and infrastructure. Training and up-skilling the workforce. Managing university places so we don't produce shed-loads of useless 2:1 Business Studies grads that end up flipping burgers. If there is any chance of the UK surviving this debacle then it will not be the City shoving around imaginary money that does it.
He's a brexiter. So no surprise.
Global trends = EU/Japan trade deal with zero tariffs.
Bad news management = (a) repatriate to Japan first then (b) build plants in Europe.
I get you now.
I don't know to be honest. It may be time to evolve. There is huge money in the services sector. I see your point about manufacturing but to manufacture you need to have people willing to do the conveyor belt jobs and to be fair not many people want to do them and AI/Robotics will be replacing these jobs in the next while anyway. Evolution is the way forward.
The global trend is to now supply Europe from somewhere that has a trade deal with Europe (Japan) rather than somewhere that does not (UK)
Totally not brexit related etc...
When there's a 50 mile tailback on the M20 the global trend will be turning motorways into lorry parks.
They seem to imply "they were in the pipeline"...its all part of this to and froing over what happens when Brexit occurs, if it occurs, which I still have my doubts. Nobody really knows what will happen, some dislocation will be necessary but common sense will win out eventually, we will still trade with Europe, and them with us, either inside the EU or as a third country. Who knows maybe Brexit will kick start our manufacturing industry, especially those areas where we already have a commercial advantage in AI and other related technologies?
I never said they would, (wish people would read the dammed post and not keep adding their own take!)
I was responding to a previous post, that one area where we can expect to see jobs created directly because of Brexit, were the ones mentioned. This wasn't presented as a trade off on other lost jobs or anything like it, but given the disruption that supposed to occur at Ports etc. then additional jobs are likely...that's all!
Probably, yes, but these are jobs contributing zero added value to the economy, merely dealing with a problem that we decided to create.