This is a point you rarely, if ever, see put to Brexiteers who talk up the idea of making independent trade deals. Once the UK leaves, every other potential trading country will be well aware of just how desperate the UK will be to make a deal, any sort of deal, and with virtually no leverage to get anything remotely as advantageous as what there currently is within the EU.
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This is a point you rarely, if ever, see put to Brexiteers who talk up the idea of making independent trade deals. Once the UK leaves, every other potential trading country will be well aware of just how desperate the UK will be to make a deal, any sort of deal, and with virtually no leverage to get anything remotely as advantageous as what there currently is within the EU.
There's endless reasons we could speculate on for that (empire mentality, overvaluing British produce, blitz spirit, simply not caring etc etc) but it should be seen by most people as an absolute fact and another example of Project Ostrich among the decision-makers in the UK.
Honestly, reading that article would make you endlessly grateful for being in the EU...
Isn't the UK's issue that, in theory, the EU may choose never to "agree" on that acceptable solution, and/or dangle their agreement as leverage in other future negotiations? So having pre-agreed criteria, which solves the backstop problem, would give the UK "control" over their destiny.
If that's not what's happening then I have no idea what's going on.
The point you make should be blindingly obvious but for some reason it’s never brought up by interviewers when the likes of Liam Fox starts going on about these wonderful deals.
As far as the US goes, the Brexiteer ultras never seem to be too concerned about being pushed around by Uncle Sam (although being a leading voice in a club of 28 is an absolutely unacceptable infringement of sovereignty). As for the other Leave supporters, for a lot of them I think their clock stopped with images of Churchill and Roosevelt in the Grand Alliance and they imagine we’ll get a special deal.
You are a joke, can't expect to be taken seriously which such statements , can you?
Oh really. You have obviously not done your research first.
The UK for example has reduced its CO2 output significantly over the last decade and now uses very little coal for power generation.
Have you heard about the forthcoming ban on petrol and diesel cars and have you read about the massive sums being spent on developing electric cars.
I will agree that nothing like enough is being done but your statement is factually incorrect.
Not surprised a bitter, old fart like yourself doesn't give two shits about the state of the planet he'll be leaving for future generations.
And that’s all down to EU legalisation which is what you’re implying?
No-deal Brexit risks rise as UK-Japan trade talks stall
Tokyo confident it can secure better terms from the UK than it did in discussions with EU
Tokyo confident it can secure better terms from the UK than it did in discussions with EU
https://www.ft.com/content/5ce60af2-2b90-11e9-a5ab-ff8ef2b976c7
Good to see us pushing ahead with all these glorious trade deals eh.
Farage confident Brexit won't happen. Well he's hoping it won't.
New Brexit party recognised
A new Brexit party, supported by Nigel Farage has been officially recognised by the Electoral Commission and is likely to win over thousands of Tory defectors, the Telegraph reports.
The party is called ...The Brexit Party. It says it will field candidates in England, Wales, Scotland and Europe.
The party leader is former Ukip candidate, Catherine Blaiklock, who the New European profiled her last month (it’s worth reading in full):
She is best-known for failing to win Great Yarmouth for UKIP in the 2017 general election despite an innovative campaign which saw her brandish a large photograph of her Jamaican husband at one hustings in an attempt to demonstrate that ’Kippers were not racist, later telling Vice “I sleep with somebody who is black.”
Her recent return to the limelight has provided equally startling quotes, with Blaiklock telling the Sun that “people feel treason has been committed” in the fight against Brexit ...
Blaiklock advised those on low income to heed the example of Sherpas in the Himalayas, who eat “practically nothing but boiled potatoes with a bit of salt and chilli on the side”.
The Telegraph says:
Farage, the former Ukip leader who is supporting the party, said “the engine is running” and he stood “ready for battle” to fight the Tories and Labour of the European Parliament elections are held.
A new Brexit party, supported by Nigel Farage has been officially recognised by the Electoral Commission and is likely to win over thousands of Tory defectors, the Telegraph reports.
The party is called ...The Brexit Party. It says it will field candidates in England, Wales, Scotland and Europe.
The party leader is former Ukip candidate, Catherine Blaiklock, who the New European profiled her last month (it’s worth reading in full):
She is best-known for failing to win Great Yarmouth for UKIP in the 2017 general election despite an innovative campaign which saw her brandish a large photograph of her Jamaican husband at one hustings in an attempt to demonstrate that ’Kippers were not racist, later telling Vice “I sleep with somebody who is black.”
Her recent return to the limelight has provided equally startling quotes, with Blaiklock telling the Sun that “people feel treason has been committed” in the fight against Brexit ...
Blaiklock advised those on low income to heed the example of Sherpas in the Himalayas, who eat “practically nothing but boiled potatoes with a bit of salt and chilli on the side”.
The Telegraph says:
Farage, the former Ukip leader who is supporting the party, said “the engine is running” and he stood “ready for battle” to fight the Tories and Labour of the European Parliament elections are held.
The state of these quotes, it has to be a parody.
"Let them eat spuds."
"And spice things up by sleeping with black people."
Just checked his Twitter. Full of idiots who want Brexit more than anything else and are willing to vote for whoever they have to to get it.
Farage would give Trump whatever he wanted if he were voted in.
No. Not at all.
As far as I understand it each country that signed up to the Climate Change agreement has its own targets to reduce CO2 emissions.
Who does Donald Tusk think he is? We’ve always been so civil with these ‘EU dirty rats’
Telling EU leaders they’re like Hitler is exactly the sort of skilled diplomacy that has made these Brexit negotiations pass off so smoothly
Telling EU leaders they’re like Hitler is exactly the sort of skilled diplomacy that has made these Brexit negotiations pass off so smoothly
https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...nson-jeremy-hunt-the-sun-stalin-a8767871.html
That's great.
Nothing to see here, Brexit is going perfectly fine
And in the comments it links to an article about the government refusing legitimate FOI requests so we might never find out how much this whole saga cost.
And in the comments it links to an article about the government refusing legitimate FOI requests so we might never find out how much this whole saga cost.
I think the government can't refuse a legitimate foi request... Isn't that the entire point of foi... I'm no fan of may or this government but I'd suggest the twitter comment is likley to be "fake news" or "alternative facts"
I know Chris Grayling is the worst ever minister ever, but I'm genuinely struggling to think of even one thing he's done that was even on the verges of competent.
Can anyone think of anything that Chris Grayling has ever been involved if that was actually a success?
Or even just not an absolute fecking disaster?
There has to be at least one, right?
I think the accusation in the past is they're using legitimate reasons to reject (e.g. state secrets or whatever) to reject FoI requests which would simply be embarrassing for them.
Can anyone think of anything that Chris Grayling has ever been involved if that was actually a success?
Or even just not an absolute fecking disaster?
There has to be at least one, right?
I think the accusation in the past is they're using legitimate reasons to reject (e.g. state secrets or whatever) to reject FoI requests which would simply be embarrassing for them.
Showed up to work?
Seems to be the most invested poster in here but keeps telling us he couldn't care less. Parody poster...
This is the linked article
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/n...nt-discloses-less-and-less-information/30/01/
Of course he is, knowing now that he will not get the Brexit he wants, he's eyeing up the EU elections as a means of keeping the Nigel Farage show going. However, for that to happen May has not only to delay Art 50, but revoke it completely and she will, because she has no other choice now; that is unless the EU caves in completely on the back stop... the 'chicken run' will continue right up to the wire, with Nigel cheering from the side-lines.
Farage's attempts at' king -making' in the Tory party, with the result of the referendum failed because the would be King, Boris Johnson, at the point of victory, lost his nerve and fled the field, or was scared off by Gove.
Nigel is looking to get another chance this time backing JRM. However, if by some miracle May does secure a deal of sorts, but which locks the UK potentially forever into the EU, then Farage has failed.
He is following the old adage "He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day".
They can't ... If you disagree it's your right to complain to the independent information commission officer who will then force the publication
Here's another article
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ment-foi-requests-public-bodies-a8746681.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ment-foi-requests-public-bodies-a8746681.html
As I say you simply then make the request to this ico who review the decision .... They can't block the info if it's a legitimate request
It's either not a legitimate request
Or the Ico releases the info
It's actually wrong to say the government can block legitimate requests
The legal process is you ask for the info
They decide if in their opinion it should be released... If you disagree you go to the Ico who then make the binding decisions
When the civil service send a letter saying they won't release the info they tell you it's not a binding decision and if you disagree you have the right to appeal...
I know this as I've made freedom of information requests... Only partially answered and therefore gone through the process.
Ok, I suppose then they're hoping will give up when they receive that letter and not follow through with ICO. Or, at least, delay the process as much as they can.
Edit: from a purely semantics point of view, if the ICO did rule in favour of releasing it in the end, then the government HAVE indeed tried to refuse a legitimate request
Technically the "government" don't get these initial requests... The civil service does... And the person making the decision almost certainly takes the view if in doubt don't give the info and let the Ico make the decision... Yes I suspect some people don't follow through but it's very clear you can and very easy to do so.Ok, I suppose then they're hoping will give up when they receive that letter and not follow through with ICO. Or, at least, delay the process as much as they can.
Edit: from a purely semantics point of view, if the ICO did rule in favour of releasing it in the end, then the government HAVE indeed tried to refuse a legitimate request
Ok, that's fair enough. If you were cynical, it would be very easy to imagine the government deliberately sticking their oar in though with that letter they sent out.
This is a long read, but it gives some interesting context and behind the scenes comments before and after Tusk's comments
https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2019/0208/1028467-brexit-tony-connelly/
https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2019/0208/1028467-brexit-tony-connelly/
Tony Connelly is the only thing that makes paying the TV license worth it.
Very interesting read, thanks for posting that. The one thing it sadly doesn't illuminate though is how British negotiators come to the conclusion that failing to deliver on their agreement strengthens their hand in these negotiations.
Tony Connelly's been writing great stuff on Brexit for a good while now. Whatever else about RTE, their website is great nowadays.
Brilliant
That is fantastic. I saw Jarvis on a politics show recently and I am sure he appreciates it too.
You couldn't be a bad as Grayling if you were intentionally trying to feck things up.