[jem]

He’s clearly enrolled in the Maguire school of rolling up your socks, working hard, ignoring the haters, and eventually becoming a valuable squad member. Rashford and Garnacho should take note.

 

[SER19]

might be worth a start in carabao cup

 

[Alemar]

might be worth a start in carabao cup

But as an RWB. Not in attack

 

[Tosicsleftpeg]

Fair play I think he's been decent from what we've seen. Could develop into a half decent rotation player if he carries on.

 

[Mike Smalling]

I think it will benefit him greatly that we have more of a shape and are better in possession overall. Under ETH there was no structure, so he would be isolated a lot and trying to make something happen on his own, which he can't really do. He's much better when combining in short passing moves with the likes of Diallo, Mazraoui, Bruno, etc.

He still needs to sort out his decision making and not take shots from impossible angles and so on, but he could be a much more useful player under Amorim.

 

[gza the genius]

Fair play, his last couple of cameos he's looked like he might have some use to us.

 

[SER19]

But as an RWB. Not in attack

Yeah. Though hes reasonably good on ball he could work as one of the 2 10s maybe

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

Yeah. Though hes reasonably good on ball he could work as one of the 2 10s maybe

No. Absolutely not

 

[pocco]

In an under the radar type of way, he’s on a bit of a redemption arc under Amorim. I’ve been quietly happy with his performances week by week, and if he keeps improving then he might just force his way into the picture here. His link up with Amad today was an issue for them. Him, Amad and Mazraoui down the right has some potential and I’m looking forward to seeing more of it.

 

[JE-365]

The fee isn’t the problem because it’s already done, nothing else we can change. The problem is his wages because for someone at 200k p/w, you expect him to get involved more as regular player. Otherwise, it would look bad to pay 100k p/w or less on the main RWB but 200k p/w on backup RWB.

If what Amorim is looking for in his RWB is someone who can beat man to put crossing in or someone who is explosive, then I don’t think Antony is the right guy for the regular RWB. If Amorim is looking for someone who plays safe, only provide link up play, possession retention, and work rate then May be he can play the role. But that sounds like a role that we can give to Mazraoui.

Let’s see what Amorim can do with him. There is still lot of times this season to see his value in Amorim’s system. May be if he can improve his killer passes and his crosses, we could see his value to be long term RWB.

 

[Tallis]

He may get more game time given Amad is playing #10. He has half a season to prove himself or at least impress for the next loan.

He seems to combine quite well with Amad.

 

[bringbackbebe]

He's always had a good defensive side about him. It's just when he tries to do silly tricks or take-ons further up the field that he gets caught out and rendered useless. He'll do well reinventing himself as a wing back.

 

[MadDogg]

I don't get this rationale or that he hasn't been as bad as people think ...
Antony cost £80m and was absolutely shite until recently. You don't pay that sort of money for an average winger or unproven wing back. Absolutely the club and EtH's fault, but Antony's lack of output and that stupid hop he likes to do is absolutely on him.

He was decent in his first season. Didn't have enough end product, but he did fairly well in terms of keeping the ball, getting us up the pitch and helping out defensively. Obviously nowhere near the level his price tag would indicate, but judged purely on his performances on the field he was decent.

It was only last season where he was 'absolutely shite' for the majority.

 

[Xeque_279]

Really hope his good cameos continue, helps us in the season and puts him in a better position in the shop window. Done well, but can't really see him staying beyond this season.

 

[Roboc7]

if he cost 18m like amad it might be a different narrative. it is a real shame that fans blame players for their price tag. i can't even imagine the venom if rashford wasn't free

If he’d cost 18m he’d still be seen as not good enough based on what he has produced so far. But it’s a huge disadvantage to have players who contribute so little costing so much money in PSR terms. That’s not his fault of course and he’s not the only one but it’s the reality of the situation.

 

[waza7111]

He's starting to become a decent option off the bench when Amorim wants to attack a bit more later in the game.

It gives teams something else to think about having faced a defensive wing back for most of the game.

 

[TsuWave]

Reckon he’d be a better LWB than Dalot

 

[Real Name]

Another good cameo. Keep 'em coming!

 

[Adamsk7]

Quietly doing alright now. I like him in that RWB position, especially if Amad is in the right sided 10 as the two of them are good carrying the ball and Antony actually is a good passer of the ball too. What I like about Amorim is we are finding out who has the mentality to adapt and play for us and it’s not always the obvious ones,

 

[Crashoutcassius]

If he’d cost 18m he’d still be seen as not good enough based on what he has produced so far. But it’s a huge disadvantage to have players who contribute so little costing so much money in PSR terms. That’s not his fault of course and he’s not the only one but it’s the reality of the situation.

Disagree, as I said I think if he cost 18m people wouldn't be going so nuts over it. Again you talk about the money in your post, while admitting it is irrelevant. I don't think anyone would want to sign him for 18m but he is here now and will hopefully be useful, if people can get over the money

 

[Crashoutcassius]

I don't get this rationale or that he hasn't been as bad as people think ...
Antony cost £80m and was absolutely shite until recently. You don't pay that sort of money for an average winger or unproven wing back. Absolutely the club and EtH's fault, but Antony's lack of output and that stupid hop he likes to do is absolutely on him.

But again you can't help but mention the money. It's because it is the only relevant thing, hence my post.

 

[ROFLUTION]

It’s a breath of fresh air to just see Amorim pick the players who wants it the most

 

[Matt851]

The wages he is on along with what the likes of rashford, Mount and casemiro are earning really demonstrates the size of the challenge at the club. All of those should be world class players based on what we pay tjem but offer next to nothing

 

[Roboc7]

Disagree, as I said I think if he cost 18m people wouldn't be going so nuts over it. Again you talk about the money in your post, while admitting it is irrelevant. I don't think anyone would want to sign him for 18m but he is here now and will hopefully be useful, if people can get over the money

He rarely plays well so even if he’d cost 18m he’d still be someone we’d be looking to get rid of, the difference is we’d actually be able to sell him.

I never said it was irrelevant just it’s not his fault, he wasn’t one of the incompetent people who signed off on his fee.

The fee you pay for someone and their wages is hugely relevant now because of PSR. He is a very expensive player to have in the squad at a time when money is tight so it’s not enough for him to just do a job every so often. It’s very difficult to move forward when so much money is allocated to likes of Casemiro, Antony, Rashford and others when they offer so little on the pitch.

 

[Marwood]

It's just a couple of cameos where he's moved the ball fairly quickly when others have been a bit ponderous.

Shouldn't really take anything from that but the position does suit him better than being a winger.

Still think he's far too left sided to be a RWB.

 

[Acquire Me]

I really like the look of him under Amorim. The energy he brings and the fact that he doesn’t lose the ball all the time is very beneficial for Amad and obviously the other players as well.

I don’t care about the past. It can’t be changed. It would be delightful if he proved to be a useful player for us.

I am a sucker for the underdogs. Keep going strong Antony.

 

[bavarianred]

I like that he is given more minutes now. We won't be able to sell him if he never plays.

And in an optimal scenario, it proves to be a good solution for the RWB position. To be honest, I didn't think he was that bad in his first season with us, he just didn't score any goals. His right foot could be the main problem though.

 

[Solius]

He's been decent in his recent cameos. Tidy.

Baby steps and all that.

 

[CM]

Antony's done okay off the bench in the last couple of matches at wing back, I'd like to see him start there against Tottenham and see how he gets on. The wing backs are the two problem positions in the team at the moment but I think Antony might be one of the few in our squad who could be relatively well suited to it.

 

[Berbasbullet]

Antony's done okay off the bench in the last couple of matches at wing back, I'd like to see him start there against Tottenham and see how he gets on. The wing backs are the two problem positions in the team at the moment but I think Antony might be one of the few in our squad who could be relatively well suited to it.

Agreed! We need to rotate and id like to see us attack Spurs so I’d be happy with this.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

I said before Amorim arrived that I could see this system suiting Anthony and him being one of the big winners. I’ve not seen enough yet to convince myself I was right, but it certainly seems like he will get the chance. Been impressed with his last couple cameos.

 

[Bowlcut11]

Antony at RWB and Amad in that right 10 role and I think we could be cooking up something special. They're both very good at interlinking play and both make runs off the ball for one another.

I'm not sure he will become first choice RWB but I do think he could be a very good rotation option there judging by the last couple of games.

 

[Lentwood]

It's essentially very similar to what happened with Maguire...

- We paid a huge fee for a player who's good but not world class in his position
- Like Maguire, Anthony is quite easy to bash...Maguire because he's a bit 'simple' and agricultural in his style, Anthony because of the showboating.
- Both players actually did OK in their first season, but were never going to be able to meet the lofty expectations that come with the price tag.
- Both players got hammered when the teams' form dropped off badly and were made the scapegoat, to a certain degree, because of their price tag.
- Both players have now started to perform fine once expectations have been totally reset and people have started judging them solely on their contribution, and not what was paid.

Caveat to this is I do think Maguire is a better player than Anthony, I'd say Maguire, at his peak, is just one notch below world-class, whereas Anthony is hard-working but a few notches below world-class.

I do think that Anthony has two major strengths in an Amorim system....one, he works really hard and is (statistically) an elite level 'defensive winger', based on tackles, interceptions, turnovers etc...Second, he's good at retaining the ball. You can give him the ball in tight areas and unlike Garnacho and Rashford, he doesn't just run blindly into dead-ends. Obviously sometimes the 'running blindly into dead ends' leads to a take-on and a spectacular goal...and this is the bit Anthony generally doesn't offer, with his more conservative style / lack of exceptional pace.

 

[Varun1]

But again you can't help but mention the money. It's because it is the only relevant thing, hence my post.

Money isn't the only relevant factor. Would supporters care if we paid £15m and he was playing the way he does? They wouldn't.
Cost & performance go hand in hand.

 

[Cabin Clown]

In terms of attitude? Rashford and Garnacho take note.

 

[antohan]

I disagree. I think having them 2 who are similar in the fact there both left footers could work and it would confuse the opposition players as they can rotate positions which is always hard to mark.

Simply put, in the small sample we've had it has looked promising and more conducive to making things happen, so would rather explore RWB than ask him to switch flanks and be an entirely different player just because he happens to be left-footed.

Amad is more useful at 10, Mazraoui is also useful at RCB or LWB, so we could use him sorting/holding that role for now and as backup later. He is going nowhere given PSR.

If what people want is no Dalot then stick Maz at LWB. It won't do Antony (or Dalot) any favours to experiment with him on a flank and instructions that are completely unfamiliar just for the sake of benching Dalot.

 

[UpWithRivers]

He's not been that good. He's dropping 5.5 if 6 is average. But I do like his link up with Amad. He allows Amad to have so much more space because thier defence have to take care of both of them. Mazroui and Dalot dont provide the attacking side so well. If we get a proper LWB and RWB we will be cooking

 

[roonster09]

It's essentially very similar to what happened with Maguire...

- We paid a huge fee for a player who's good but not world class in his position
- Like Maguire, Anthony is quite easy to bash...Maguire because he's a bit 'simple' and agricultural in his style, Anthony because of the showboating.
- Both players actually did OK in their first season, but were never going to be able to meet the lofty expectations that come with the price tag.
- Both players got hammered when the teams' form dropped off badly and were made the scapegoat, to a certain degree, because of their price tag.
- Both players have now started to perform fine once expectations have been totally reset and people have started judging them solely on their contribution, and not what was paid.

Caveat to this is I do think Maguire is a better player than Anthony, I'd say Maguire, at his peak, is just one notch below world-class, whereas Anthony is hard-working but a few notches below world-class.

I do think that Anthony has two major strengths in an Amorim system....one, he works really hard and is (statistically) an elite level 'defensive winger', based on tackles, interceptions, turnovers etc...Second, he's good at retaining the ball. You can give him the ball in tight areas and unlike Garnacho and Rashford, he doesn't just run blindly into dead-ends. Obviously sometimes the 'running blindly into dead ends' leads to a take-on and a spectacular goal...and this is the bit Anthony generally doesn't offer, with his more conservative style / lack of exceptional pace.

2 decent 10-15 mins cameos and we have history rewritten.

Antony was a terrible player for ManUtd, if he plays well as a RWB then its an added bonus when people gave up on him. As simple as that.

 

[PINGUtd]

Transfer fee and wages aside, he is a decent option for the right full back position. Currently better than Dalot (on the left at least) and Mazroui needs some rest with our schedule. Hope he starts against Spurs.

 

[DJ_21]

Start him at RWB against spurs. His off the bench performances warrant him a start.