Yeah, and he usually gets a run of games too. Jesus.That is exactly how Martial performs and the way Martial FC reacts too.
Yeah, and he usually gets a run of games too. Jesus.That is exactly how Martial performs and the way Martial FC reacts too.
Literally the only time I've seen Martial play in a strike partnership under mourinho, it was an absolute success.I thought it was obvious what we were trying to do yesterday and I think this is also what mourinho meant when he alluded to tactical changes a while back, when he remarked that he didn't have all of his players back. So I guess this was at least intended to be the way forward.
To be frank, as much as i like the boy, Martial doesn't work in this kind of system. It's all about off the ball movement and positioning for the strikers, which Martial, sadly, still is pretty much devoid of. Those balls from midfield to the runners just require, um, yeah, runners on the receiving end. Yesterday Martial wouldn't have even got into the position to score Lukakus miss, as his positioning is linked to his poor movement.
I could see him work well in a 2 with Lukaku, but not in this kind of system. It's not a coincidence that he excelled in a more possession-based system (where I could see Lukaku struggle).
For what it's worth, I think Sanchez should be sold at the end of the season if he doesn't get more than 15 goals this season. His output doesn't justify his wages.Was he any worse than Sanchez vs Leicester?
For what it's worth, I think Sanchez should be sold at the end of the season if he doesn't get more than 15 goals this season. His output doesn't justify his wages.
Also, can we stop this "either, or" argument. You don't have to pick a side to have an opinion.
Best ratio and most goals scored in the squad since joining as well but top reds want to bin him at 22 for having a hard time under a manager who couldn't care less for him and stagnating along with 80% of the squad
I'm glad that the board still believes in him at least,that's all that matters in the long run with the current managerial situation quickly becoming untenable
I fully agree. Mourinho's lack of faith in him is kinda shocking. Then again not really considering the players he's mistreated in thr past who went on to prove him wrong.
This is right. People were expecting the third season syndrome to happen & guess what - it is. Likewise; it shows why some fans are not using José words to decide the future of Martial.
For what it's worth, I think Sanchez should be sold at the end of the season if he doesn't get more than 15 goals this season. His output doesn't justify his wages.
Which club is going to take on his wage? Seems to be the biggest roadblock to us selling our players in general. Grossly overpaid players with consistent mediocre performances.
Play him in the 352 with him close to the striker or him as the striker. Now when we played against Brighton many criticised him but when you analyse the game you will realise that almost all of our attacks came from the right side where Darmian and Mata were operating. Our midfield was not able or did not get the ball to our left where Shaw and Martial were operating. Martial plays poorly most of the time because Jose does not know how to get the best out of him. He is the only attacker at United who actually scares the opposing defence.
Scholes remarked just that after the Brighton game
He believes the likes of Martial and Rom can win games but the MF don't consistently provide the forwards with anything substantial in terms of balls through the defense and to areas where the wide players can isolate FB's which is spot on and explains how and why just about all of them have become so ineffective despite all the talent they possess.
Everyone didn't all just turn to shite overnight
So often? He only played against Brighton, where bar 1-2 individuals, everyone was diabolical. What are you on about?Martial is living the life of Riley at the minute isn't he. He plays poorly so often and yet the blame is rarely placed on him it seems.
I want him to do well, but how can I back him if he can't back himself? He's so lethargic in his play and he's not talented enough to make up for it.
I don't think they'll be a shortage of clubs willing to take Sanchez, he know's he'd have to take a pay cut. Wouldn't worry too much about it.Which club is going to take on his wage? Seems to be the biggest roadblock to us selling our players in general. Grossly overpaid players with consistent mediocre performances.
Why would he transfer and take a 50% pay cut or more? We can't force him to go.I don't think they'll be a shortage of clubs willing to take Sanchez, he know's he'd have to take a pay cut. Wouldn't worry too much about it.
How many people do you know who would take a pay cut for the sake of it? He is almost 30, he won't give up on millions of pay that is guaranteed to him by a contract. Whether someone else would offer him the same money, is another thing, and I doubt that.I don't think they'll be a shortage of clubs willing to take Sanchez, he know's he'd have to take a pay cut. Wouldn't worry too much about it.
Apologies I forgot he only has one club appearance to his name, I must've been thinking of somebody else.So often? He only played against Brighton, where bar 1-2 individuals, everyone was diabolical. What are you on about?
I guess he played poorly against Leicester and Spurs also, how did he not get the blame? A disgrace this Martial lad is.
Yeah, you probably meant Alexis. No problem.Apologies I forgot he only has one club appearance to his name, I must've been thinking of somebody else.
Who said he'd have to take a 50% or more pay cut? Someone's daft enough to pay him silly money otherwise we wouldn't be paying him silly money.Why would he transfer and take a 50% pay cut or more? We can't force him to go.
If we told him we weren't renewing his contract and we'd pay him out on his current one if he left in the summer, you don't think he'd take it?How many people do you know who would take a pay cut for the sake of it? He is almost 30, he won't give up on millions of pay that is guaranteed to him by a contract. Whether someone else would offer him the same money, is another thing, and I doubt that.
I wouldn't count on finding another club that's as dumb as ours.Who said he'd have to take a 50% or more pay cut? Someone's daft enough to pay him silly money otherwise we wouldn't be paying him silly money.
But why would we pay him out so he can leave? What are we gaining from that? We lose the money and the player.If we told him we weren't renewing his contract and we'd pay him out on his current one if he left in the summer, you don't think he'd take it?
For what it's worth, I think Sanchez should be sold at the end of the season if he doesn't get more than 15 goals this season. His output doesn't justify his wages.
Also, can we stop this "either, or" argument. You don't have to pick a side to have an opinion.
If he's still not making the impact we thought he would come the end of the season, there is absolutely no reason why he should still be at the club next season with the wages he's currently on. For me, higher salary means higher scrutiny, you have to show people why you're worth those wages and Sanchez isn't doing that.But why would we pay him out so he can leave? What are we gaining from that? We lose the money and the player.
I bet he would, why wouldn’t he? He gets all the money from us and still gets decent contract elsewhere.
You don’t make a lot of sense to be honest.
We won't have to. United aren't a selling club. We don't sell players for a profit, we just rid of players we don't need anymore. We'd do what we did with Rooney, get a transfer fee that allows us to buy his contract out without us having to dip into the transfer budget to pay him.When his output is not justifying his wages I doubt you'll find any clubs willing to pay him what he's getting paid. He's probably going to stay for 4 years unless his wage is subsidized heavily to whatever club wants him. Martial on the other hand I'd imagine would have many clubs interested.
We won't have to. United aren't a selling club. We don't sell players for a profit, we just rid of players we don't need anymore. We'd do what we did with Rooney, get a transfer fee that allows us to buy his contract out without us having to dip into the transfer budget to pay him.
Can you imagine if we had Sterling playing at LW trying to supply a target man like Lukaku.
The guy would not have half the season he has at city; being out so wide, playing more as a midfielder that supplies than a forward who taps in goals.
He would be running around like a clueless chicken on the Left wing & all the Jose fans would be crying about how his amazing/ clueless running & workrate is fundamental to our game plan.
Martial is a forward and continues not to be played at a forward. This does not mean he has to be a target man - but that does not mean he has to be as wide out as Shaw in his starting position - finding himself still far away from goal if he manages to beat the fullback who is marking him.
"Raheem Sterling's average position this season resembles a 2nd striker playing off Aguero & not a winger. Pep frees him of defensive responsibilities so he can drift infield+get into the box, hence the 18 goals this season."
We can take heart from the fact the club still have faith in him and overruled Jose's decision to get rid. We all know that if he had his way Martial wouldn't be here. He never keeps an unhappy player as stated on many occasions. I still believe he has a future here but we have to wait and see what happens with the manager.