[Ashish Negi]

So this thread still bumping! ..

Seems like off the ball running is best attributes in Football now, so Lingard should be best player in the world ?

 

[Wilfred Brown]

So this thread still bumping! ..

Seems like off the ball running is best attributes in Football now, so Lingard should be best player in the world ?

Bad logic, having off the ball running is essential but doesn't mean that having off the ball running automatically makes a player good.

 

[tenpoless]

If only He had the attitude of Son Min, He'd be 1.5 times the player.

Our squad has talents but their mentality is in the wrong places.

 

[K2K]

With Pogba leaving we'll need a new villain.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Good for 5 minutes when he came on, then disappeared as usual.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

His attitude when things don't quite go his way is just laughable.

 

[Patrick08]

Fizzy drink.

 

[P-Nut]

Good for 5 minutes when he came on, then disappeared as usual.

Was my exact thoughts, looked so sharp and bright when he first came on

 

[MAME DIOUF 32]

Brilliant player 3 or 4 times a season. The rest of the time he's no upgrade on Memphis. Lazy and annoying.

 

[Robbie Boy]

He’s been absolutely atrocious this season for the most part.

 

[Raven]

Did well when he came on I thought.

 

[Santoryo]

You guys would crap on him whatever he does. He has hardly played the last few games yet this thread is filled with criticisms of him despite him being inactive.

And no he.wasn't bad this game when he came on but the usual trashing of him will ensue.

 

[Kaglish10]

He was good today.

 

[crossy1686]

With the exception of Greenwood, our front line was fecking anonymous today. I couldn't tell you what Rashford, Lingard or Martial did the whole game.

 

[Aloysius's Back 3]

He was good today.

He was trying to find Greenwood with some passes & this is why Rashford in the middle doesn't make sense. Rashford needs to be on the left cutting in on his stronger foot. Greenwood needs to be cutting in on his left foot. Martial needs to play centrally trying to interlink both of the two main but wider strikers together.

As lazy as the guy is - his natural game is to drop off the defender in to deeper spaces - get the ball to feet and pass it to someone else.

Rashford - Martial - Greenwood

Has more cohesion than any other variance.

Do you agree?

 

[Raven]

He was trying to find Greenwood with some passes & this is why Rashford in the middle doesn't make sense. Rashford needs to be on the left cutting in on his stronger foot. Greenwood needs to be cutting in on his left foot. Martial needs to play centrally trying to interlink both of the two main but wider strikers together.

As lazy as the guy is - his natural game is to drop off the defender in to deeper spaces - get the ball to feet and pass it to someone else.

Rashford - Martial - Greenwood

Has more cohesion than any other variance.

Do you agree?

This would work for me.

 

[The Nani]

Did well when he came on I thought.

Yeah he was good. More like the Martial of old today.

Encouraging as Ole has obviously been on his arse lately. Hopefully we’ll see more of that type of effort and play from him next season.

 

[Aloysius's Back 3]

This would work for me.

Me too - if we have the money get a competition for a false 9/deep CF role against martial - someone like felix would be perfect but we are not in the best position to entice the lad.

Or my dream is to have Sancho as someone who competes with Rashford on the left, Martial at the centre and Greenwood on the right. That does not mean he plays second fiddle - on the contrary - he plays as a starter but one that allows rotation of the rest of the players freely.

 

[P-Nut]

He was trying to find Greenwood with some passes & this is why Rashford in the middle doesn't make sense. Rashford needs to be on the left cutting in on his stronger foot. Greenwood needs to be cutting in on his left foot. Martial needs to play centrally trying to interlink both of the two main but wider strikers together.

As lazy as the guy is - his natural game is to drop off the defender in to deeper spaces - get the ball to feet and pass it to someone else.

Rashford - Martial - Greenwood

Has more cohesion than any other variance.

Do you agree?

I've always maintained Martial is a better striker than Rashford. His close control means moves don't break down as often.

 

[KennyBurner]

He was trying to find Greenwood with some passes & this is why Rashford in the middle doesn't make sense. Rashford needs to be on the left cutting in on his stronger foot. Greenwood needs to be cutting in on his left foot. Martial needs to play centrally trying to interlink both of the two main but wider strikers together.

As lazy as the guy is - his natural game is to drop off the defender in to deeper spaces - get the ball to feet and pass it to someone else.

Rashford - Martial - Greenwood

Has more cohesion than any other variance.

Do you agree?

Still not good enough because rashford isnt really good on the left. We need to keep it real and realize rashford isnt top tier anywhere. It was only a few months ago we were crying that rashford needs to be moved to the center. Now he is there and we are now suggesting he should be moved back to the left?

I think its best if rashford is a backup to martial in the center while we buy a top tier winger and forward. whatever ole decides but please the likes of rashford and Lingard cant be first team moving forward.

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

Class 5 games a season, normally all within the same month.

Sell the lazy inconsistent fecker.

 

[haram]

You guys would crap on him whatever he does. He has hardly played the last few games yet this thread is filled with criticisms of him despite him being inactive.

And no he.wasn't bad this game when he came on but the usual trashing of him will ensue.

I didn't criticise him after this game but considering in the past his fans would act like he wasn't playing bad or claimed it was someone else's fault, you just have to deal with it.

 

[tentan]

Seriously apart from the Liverpool goal in Van Gaals second season what has he done?

 

[shamans]

There's a player in him. I still think he should be upfront or nowhere.

 

[Denis79]

Ole and him are like oil and water. Ole wants hard workers, Martial refuses to work hard.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Did quite well today in the context of the team peformance.

 

[Dargonk]

I actually thought he played decent when he came on, without being brilliant. He still needs to improve on moving the ball quicker at times and what he does off the ball, but he had a solid half.

It is frustrating though, as you can see there is some player in there, but it rarely comes out or gels with the rest of the team.

 

[Raven]

Yeah he was good. More like the Martial of old today.

Encouraging as Ole has obviously been on his arse lately. Hopefully we’ll see more of that type of effort and play from him next season.

Yeah, he was more up for dribbling his man again yesterday and he actually tried a shot from distance. If we can get more of that next season, I'll be very happy.

 

[Smores]

You guys would crap on him whatever he does. He has hardly played the last few games yet this thread is filled with criticisms of him despite him being inactive.

And no he.wasn't bad this game when he came on but the usual trashing of him will ensue.

It must be confusing for you lot who rate Martial so highly. Not so long ago there was a fair bit of support for your view but a change of manager who you criticised for holding him back has just flipped things completely. Which as I've said for a long time it shows how arguments tend to be a popularity contest.

 

[Sing you a song]

He was trying to find Greenwood with some passes & this is why Rashford in the middle doesn't make sense. Rashford needs to be on the left cutting in on his stronger foot. Greenwood needs to be cutting in on his left foot. Martial needs to play centrally trying to interlink both of the two main but wider strikers together.

As lazy as the guy is - his natural game is to drop off the defender in to deeper spaces - get the ball to feet and pass it to someone else.

Rashford - Martial - Greenwood

Has more cohesion than any other variance.

Do you agree?

We would be relying on a young guy to score a lot of goals because Rashford hasnt got that in him and martial will continue to disappoint, why can’t people see that he has no feeling for the club and is just lazy

 

[Andersons Dietician]

He was trying to find Greenwood with some passes & this is why Rashford in the middle doesn't make sense. Rashford needs to be on the left cutting in on his stronger foot. Greenwood needs to be cutting in on his left foot. Martial needs to play centrally trying to interlink both of the two main but wider strikers together.

As lazy as the guy is - his natural game is to drop off the defender in to deeper spaces - get the ball to feet and pass it to someone else.

Rashford - Martial - Greenwood

Has more cohesion than any other variance.

Do you agree?

Have to agree with this. Was actually quite impressed with some of his work yesterday, he also seemed to take on more shots than I remember Martial doing in previous games which is often something that quite bugged me about him, sometimes not being selfish enough.

 

[crossy1686]

Seriously apart from the Liverpool goal in Van Gaals second season what has he done?

Still wondering this myself you know...

No where near enough to deserve a cult following, I know that much. Forlan wasn't this loved by some.

 

[OL29]

Still wondering this myself you know...

No where near enough to deserve a cult following, I know that much. Forlan wasn't this loved by some.

Aren’t you the guy who said he’s in the same bracket as the likes of Kleberson and Bellion? You’re hardly credible when it comes to this topic so I wouldn’t go about throwing words around like ‘cult’.

 

[crossy1686]

Aren’t you the guy who said he’s in the same bracket as the likes of Kleberson and Bellion? You’re hardly credible when it comes to this topic so I wouldn’t go about throwing words around like ‘cult’.

So my opinion doesn't count because you don't agree with it? It's nothing short of the cult of Martial at this point. He does nothing for large parts of the season and he's the victim? We're all still waiting for him to become the next Salah like everyone said, just like Bellion was the next Henry and just like Miller was the next Keane.

Potential is a worthless commodity unless you fulfil it. Martial has show no signs of ever fulfilling his, in fact he's regressed to the point Obertan and Bebe would keep him out of the team at this point.

 

[Raven]

So my opinion doesn't count because you don't agree with it? It's nothing short of the cult of Martial at this point. He does nothing for large parts of the season and he's the victim? We're all still waiting for him to become the next Salah like everyone said, just like Bellion was the next Henry and just like Miller was the next Keane.

Potential is a worthless commodity unless you fulfil it. Martial has show no signs of ever fulfilling his, in fact he's regressed to the point Obertan and Bebe would keep him out of the team at this point.

I'm sure your opinion on many things is valuable, this is not one of them.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

I'll try him as a striker one full season, in fact he should have a chat with the manager that I would like to be a striker.

We should get lot of creative players such as full back who can provide assists & midfielder who can pick up passes with creative winger, and we will see what happen whether he can utilise his deadly finishing with good supports. Good run/movement is a basic for a striker, if he has the talent to be a striker & if he really wants to be a striker, he better start making those runs often.

 

[Aloysius's Back 3]

So my opinion doesn't count because you don't agree with it? It's nothing short of the cult of Martial at this point. He does nothing for large parts of the season and he's the victim? We're all still waiting for him to become the next Salah like everyone said, just like Bellion was the next Henry and just like Miller was the next Keane.

Potential is a worthless commodity unless you fulfil it. Martial has show no signs of ever fulfilling his, in fact he's regressed to the point Obertan and Bebe would keep him out of the team at this point.

Looks like something I find in my toilet bowl.

 

[Sky1981]

When jose mourinho critized him albeit publicly (maybe he tried many times to do so behind the screen, and this is his extreme method because nothing works) the fans sided with the player, making his head goes big. All he need is freedom, he's the next messi how dare jose made him track back.

When his contract is about to wind down, we all chanted keep martial at all cost, give him what he wants.

When ole took over, we will see a brand new martial.

Same old martial, blame ed.

 

[OL29]

So my opinion doesn't count because you don't agree with it? It's nothing short of the cult of Martial at this point. He does nothing for large parts of the season and he's the victim? We're all still waiting for him to become the next Salah like everyone said, just like Bellion was the next Henry and just like Miller was the next Keane.

Potential is a worthless commodity unless you fulfil it. Martial has show no signs of ever fulfilling his, in fact he's regressed to the point Obertan and Bebe would keep him out of the team at this point.

No, your opinion does count, it's just untrue and I'm sure you can see that yourself but for some weird reason you let personal dislike get the better of you. Even after Sunday's match, you came into here to the Martial thread to moan about each of the front 3 but did you even post in Lingard's and Rashford's threads, considering that they both started the game? I doubt it. At this point it's an obsession, so when you talk about a cult, what would you call yourself? It seems hypocritical.

 

[crossy1686]

No, your opinion does count, it's just untrue and I'm sure you can see that yourself but for some weird reason you let personal dislike get the better of you. Even after Sunday's match, you came into here to the Martial thread to moan about each of the front 3 but did you even post in Lingard's and Rashford's threads, considering that they both started the game? I doubt it. At this point it's an obsession, so when you talk about a cult, what would you call yourself? It seems hypocritical.

Believe me, I've said enough about Lingard in recent weeks and I think we're all on the same page in regards to his ability/United quality. Rashford I'm more inclined to give the benefit of the doubt. He tries every match and even if he's shooting from 40 yards out, he's only doing so to try and force the issue because nothing else around him is working, plus, he's what? 20, 21? He'll only get better.

Perhaps you're right and this has spilled over into a personal dislike for Martial at this stage, but after the backing he got during the Jose saga on here I think I'm more aggrieved with his supporters than him. I'd probably have way more time for him if people didn't keep telling me he'll turn into Salah if we let him go. Couple that with his management group bailing him out of the shit whenever someone says something negative about him and we've got this player that's all of a sudden untouchable but in reality hasn't done an awful lot since his debut season under Van Gaal.

Now he's being called out again by a second manager but it's still the managers fault for not getting the best out of him. When will it stop and when will he actually deliver? I'm all for giving him next season with a view to leaving in January if he doesn't start pulling up tree's early season, but that's only because despite being stacked on left wing we don't actually have anyone that's good.