I don't know. I doubt he'll turn out great and I'm not the biggest fan of his demeanour.
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Here comes the tough question : How many times have you actually seen him play as a striker in your life to reach this conclusion it's his best position ?
‘Out last mourinho’? Seriously? The media would love to see United crumble. I’m glad Mourinho treats them like garbage. They need to be boycotted
His stats show's that he is equally good as being a striker to being a left winger - so why don't we use him as a striker eh? Why are we playing with one - playing Lukaku when he himself describes himself not as a target man?
Tell me? Jose doesn't not think Martial is a a striker & plays him as a left winger. Jose then plays Lukaku upfront by himself as a target man alone whilst he himself tells him that is not how he plays.
Tell me what is stopping your man playing two strikers regularly together instead of a target man that relies on supply. Why did Fellaini come and play upfront next to Lukaku when we needed a forward. Tell me?
Because Martial has been broadly shite in a united shirt when tested up top and Lukaku had always served best with direct service.
That's why.
I'll answer it as a seperate point in the good faith you're not just going to repeat the number thing lol.
No he probably does not, not in the classical sense of what he seems a strong central striker. He seems him more as a forward in the same mould as all the other strikers he's had out wide during his time and usually very succesfully.
Best news to come out of the club since last season if he really is signing a new contract.
Any news on the offer of a new 5 year deal? Would be delighted if that was true. We need to tie down young talented players and build the core of the team around him, Rashford, Pogba, Tuanzebe, Shaw,
I agree. If he had any stones he'd be playing out of his skin as a big feck you to Jose.
His best games for United have been as a striker, he played there for Monaco in partnership whilst also covering as a left winger. Rashford likewise - his best games for united has been as a striker whilst he was bought up as a absolute rubbish winger.
The real thing is truth is that Martial playing as a LW for Jose Mourinho & a target man is not the same as a LF - his goal is to supply a target man. He isnt played like a LF.
You see sane & sterling playing wide as possible trying to supply a target man? NO - because even if they are out wide they play in between the RB and RCB Not directly against the fullback. Remember how David villa played for Barcelona whilst Messi used to supply him balls from false 9? You see how mane & Salah play as inside forwards supplied by firminho?
David villa didn't damn cross in to target man & neither did he spent half his time being asked to defend. Martial playing as a left winger under Jose is not going to get the best out of him.
Considering Lukaku is not a target man el3mel - tell me why are we playing with a target man with wingers who are asked to supply him el3mel? Do you think that's the best we can do?
Terrible news. Shows how far we've sunk giving a player like this a new deal.
A player who has asked to leave, has down tools on the manager and therefore the club and its fans, hasn't improved as a player since the day he arrived, is a one trick pony who has been found out by opponents 2 years ago.
He's the worst buy this club has ever made when you consider £ paid for him and his actual contribution.
Woodward has given power to little oiks like Martial and his agent and until we get it under control, we'll continue on the way down the ladder.
So if the next manager doesn't rate him which I think is far more likely than people think, will he just down tools on him as well?
Nobody wanted to take him off our hands this summer for a good reason. He's not very good.
A player who has asked to leave, has down tools on the manager and therefore the club and its fans, hasn't improved as a player since the day he arrived, is a one trick pony who has been found out by opponents 2 years ago.
He's the worst buy this club has ever made when you consider £ paid for him and his actual contribution.
Woodward has given power to little oiks like Martial and his agent and until we get it under control, we'll continue on the way down the ladder.
So if the next manager doesn't rate him which I think is far more likely than people think, will he just down tools on him as well?
Nobody wanted to take him off our hands this summer for a good reason. He's not very good.
Yes but why is he made to play as a target man who is made to bring others in to play? Target man is not the only way to provide a striker service - I'd argue martial upfront provides Lukaku service.
Not scored a goal in eight and a half months.
can anybody name a player that has had a great last couple months or so for us?
Jose also reportedly tried to broker a swap for Willian which got rejected by Woodward
If the club wanted him gone,he would've been long gone. No need to let your personal feelings get in the way of what's actually been the case. He's seemingly here to stay,get used to it
Because
1) I don' think Jose plays 2 striker formation usually in any of his clubs as far a s i know
2 ) Striker's vital characteristic is making runs and off ball movement and Martial's poor in both those areas.
Fellaini comes in when we need to get the ball directly into the box bypassing the midfield. He brings down the ball and brings other players into play. Even the stacked Belgium NT having likes of KDB, Hazard et all brought him on against Japan during the WC when they needed a goal and he produced the comeback.
Martial played only 11 matches in the league in LVG last season here as a striker, scoring 2 goals. Not just that but guess what, both goals came in the same game, against Saints away when we won 3-2 (Martial's second game with us) with Mata scoring the third. That means he went on and scored nothing(!) in the remaining 10 games he played in the league this season as the striker. How were his best games here came as a striker exactly then ?!
Meanwhile he played 16 matches as LW this same season and scored 7.
Martial finished LVG second season playing as a LW with Rashford up top, Mata on the right and Rooney in midfield. It's nonsense to say that Mourinho changed his position to LW. LVG was the one who converted him to this position for most of the season and got better numbers from him there.
That's from the Martial camp.
I wouldn't believe a word they say.
Simeone and Martial
Martial would have a nervous breakdown in the first week.
He's stank the place out for 2 years and gets rewarded with a new deal. The club is on its knees.
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Lukaku said he and Drogba were "totally different players".
He told BBC Sport: "Drogba is more of a hold-up player, a target man. I prefer to have ball to feet and run in behind.
Great - Looks like Jose is really getting the best out of Lukaku. Playing exactly that for United & therefor we play as a single striker with every other forward as a potential supplier of the ball. Absolutely insane & poor management.
If you and Jose followers thing that Lukaku the target man continues to be the way we reach the top of the league then so be it.
I say we got more of a chance if we let Lukaku play off the shoulder off the defender whilst another forward is allowed to take on the defenders on the other side.
Nope we shall play with one striker and cry out for arnautpvic - my lord.
Lukaku said he and Drogba were "totally different players".
He told BBC Sport: "Drogba is more of a hold-up player, a target man. I prefer to have ball to feet and run in behind.
Great - Looks like Jose is really getting the best out of Lukaku. Playing exactly that for United & therefor we play as a single striker with every other forward as a potential supplier of the ball. Absolutely insane & poor management.
If you and Jose followers thing that Lukaku the target man continues to be the way we reach the top of the league then so be it.
I say we got more of a chance if we let Lukaku play off the shoulder off the defender whilst another forward is allowed to take on the defenders on the other side.
Nope we shall play with one striker and cry out for arnautpvic - my lord.
And that's why I believe Jose has not used all the capabilities of getting the best out of Martial & Rashford. Thanks.
Remember when players actually had to perform well to earn a new contract. Martial pisses me off - all the talent, none of the application.
Yeah we should've accepted spurs offer which would've been in the region of £35m
. If the offer was above £60m we'd bite their hands off. Also if he's Ballon d'or potential why no offers from Elite clubs? 60-70M for a player with that potential should be peanuts in today's market right?It's also absolutely bollocks to claim Martial is played to assist Lukaku. That just doesn't compute with reality in the slightest.
Also just to correct the above Jose dropped 433 and ended up going 4312 with his inter side.
Also just to correct the above Jose dropped 433 and ended up going 4312 with his inter side.
It changes very little other than putting the club in a better negotiating position. He's not going to see the contract out if the situation stays the same. It's win-win.
He would have set on the bench for Spurs and Atletico and Milan are uninteresting choice.
Easy to see why he decided to stick around.
He would set on the bench at all top clubs around and he knew it quite well.
Why does a manager who has won it all change the way he plays for a nobody? Also i just confirmed to you that his stats doesn't look better playing as a ST.
I completely agree. If this is true then it's openly undermining Jose. He might as well go now. The board need to think hard about this one. The same way top players are deemed to be reluctant to sign for Jose, any top manager will be reluctant to take his job if and when it becomes available.
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De Gea. Give him a new deal. Frankly, I wouldn't be breaking out the cheque book for any of the others.
Atletico is a better team than us.
Yes so ? Thought his intention is to play and develop his game not still setting on the bench but at a better team.
Edit : Maybe you get it wrong, Milan are the uninteresting choice, not Atletico or Spurs.
Hasn't Martial provided more assists for Lukaku than pretty much any other player?
The media putting their spin on it '.... outlast Jose' - they are so full of shit.
I'm sure there's more to signing the contact than whether or not Jose is leaving. Martial is pretty simple - show him that you value him and he's fine. As I said before, he was ok with LVG giving him a bollocking at times. He said himself he didn't mind as he knew LVG wanted him to be the best. Lad appreciates sincerity.
What he needs to do now is work his socks off, and make sure he repays Ed's faith in him!
'.... outlast Jose' - they are so full of shit.I'm sure there's more to signing the contact than whether or not Jose is leaving. Martial is pretty simple - show him that you value him and he's fine. As I said before, he was ok with LVG giving him a bollocking at times. He said himself he didn't mind as he knew LVG wanted him to be the best. Lad appreciates sincerity.
What he needs to do now is work his socks off, and make sure he repays Ed's faith in him!
Because he has yet to be successful with his tried and tested method here. The last thing you should do is probably play a striker who doesnt think he is good at being a target man to play like one and have him with our own and main attacking threat.
Anyway, I think the "he thinks he can outlast Jose" part is bullshit.
He's the second most reliable goalscorer at the club. Think Mourinho will be glad to have him at his best if he can get that.
He's the second most reliable goalscorer at the club. Think Mourinho will be glad to have him at his best if he can get that.
He won't need to sign a new contract to outlast Mourinho.
" club should not give contracts to players the manager does not want" Jose nearly broke down after wanting to keep fellaini when no one except him & Jose fan boys wanted him.
Jose nearly broke down after wanting to keep fellaini when no one except him & Jose fan boys wanted him.Not true. Simeone, unlike Jose, is a very good man manager. He really is. Read up on him sometime. I'm sure he would know the right approach to use with Martial.That's from the Martial camp.
I wouldn't believe a word they say.
Simeone and Martial
Martial would have a nervous breakdown in the first week.
He's stank the place out for 2 years and gets rewarded with a new deal. The club is on its knees.
Luke Shaw needs to have a word in his ear. There's no reason Martial can't be the player that Mourinho makes a beeline for the next time the final whistle goes to tell him how well he's played.
At one point yeah but don't think it ended the season that way although i could be wrong.
You'd expect that though given his position and that we don't play with a creative no 10. The fact he assists Lukaku occasionally doesn't mean he plays to assist, Son assists Kane to a simmilar amount and it isn't the case there either.
It doesn't matter because Martial would have never ever got in their team ahead of Griezmann and Costa. He would have kept on the bench and used as an impact sub exactly like here.
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