Like everything else, we are cursed.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 30
- Clean sheets
- 8
- Goals
- 0
- Assists
- 0
- Yellow cards
- 1
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to celebrate rare back-to-back victories for Manchester United! They analyse the late win in the Europa League vs. Rangers and then try and find things to analyse in a pretty dour game vs. Fulham. They also chat about the latest Marcus Rashford news, and look at the latest transfer news.
Like everything else, we are cursed.
As I’ve always said, he’s simply not very good.
Thought the same but couldnt find a rule that says gk is protected in 6 yard box. Feel free to post it if you can find it. To be clear i thought its still the rule.
Needs to give up football and join the circus. An absolute clown.
Dipped is putting it kindly; I’d say it’s plummeted. He’s a fecking liability
I’d love to have someone like Emi Martinez, but imagine he’d be hard to get
Not good enough.
So the good form was an anomaly
Because he played for Ajax before and the previous scouting team couldn’t look beyond that
If we didnt need signings in so many other positions, then we really could've done with an upgrade. But at this point, we just need to hope Onana can become reliable because we dont have the money to sign another keeper.
How far our standards have fallen! Onana was supposed to be good for his ball-playing ability, hardly any of his long/mid range passess connect with our players. If it was just to make simple sideways passes, we could have kept our existing keepers. Such a poor signing.
He’s a big part of the problem. He doesn’t command his area well at all. He doesn’t seem to organize the defense effectively. His ball playing is overrated. He doesn’t even look technically sound most of the time. The biggest issue, though, is his propensity to let in soft goals. It’s an absolute killer. It has to create anxiousness and distrust throughout the team, which puts everyone on edge. Good teams generally have a rock at the back. So far, he’s definitely not that. He’s a likeable character, but he’s far from convincing.
We're probably not set well for him to pass out, with a good team in front of him he can come out and act as a sweeper and have time and confidence to pick people out.
I remember reading people expecting a big change in getting rid of De Gea for Onana, this "front foot proactive" keeper initiating attacks and much of our attack flow problems was De Gea sat on his line and unable to kick. De Gea was poor but Onana wasn't really going to change much if at all as there's more times in a game the keeper isn't involved and our team struggles while the top teams aren't really relying on a proactive keeper and can and will usually build from the back with outfield players quickly, it was flawed thinking that De Gea was at fault when our outfield are not capable anyway. A keeper like Onana or better becomes a bonus rather than the main drive.
Strongly disagree.
I like De Gea. But one of the first things Guardiola and Klopp did was find the right goalkeeper for their buildup (and it's about much more than that). And each quickly went through two before getting the right one. Even Arteta's done similar. Onana ain't good, but that doesn't mean the thought process behind replacing De Gea was flawed. Remember the tactics Pep used against the first FA Cup final against City? Yeah.
I think Onana is good on the ball, the issue is our players aren't making the right moves to be open for a pass, Onana is no Kroos, there isn't any GK who can thread a pass like Kroos, but GKs that can pass well need outfield players to move properly, Ederson or Raya or Allison would struggle with us too in terms of passing from the back.
All of this is in no way a defense of Onana's actual weakness of being a GK, he let's soft goals in, he doesn't always command his area, and his recent form went to from very good to horrendous.
I think you've misread or my fault for not being clear, in no way do I want or wanted to keep De Gea or buy a keeper like him. De Gea should've been gone in 2019 and we need a keeper that can play out, and command the area. Some posted how De Gea was holding our team back when it's not even capable as shown through so many other phases of play without the keeper.
Onana's not been good on the ball with us. There've been moments where he tries to ping a pass to a wide-open wingback, and it goes straight out of play, for example.
I agree, that we've been positionally poor, though. And by now we should know that playing it long to Hojlund or Zirkzee is a waste of everyone's time. Just a lot of average players sadly.
Ok, got it. Yeah, I'd agree. To push that line up, we need someone who doesn't get a nosebleed playing anywhere in our defensive third.
But I'd argue that a prototype for defensive play with the ball is how we can take the sting out of games simply by having a goalkeeper who can hang onto the ball and doesn't just boot it in panic. Makes the opposition sit off (e.g. against Arsenal this season and last). Can't see us doing that with a goalkeeper like De Gea irrespective of the quality of our outfield. That first FA Cup against City is still the stuff of nightmares for me.
I know there are some metrics or something that say he’s been good, but Onana just doesn’t pass the eye test for me. I don’t look at him and see a goalkeeper that fills me with confidence or makes me think that we can rely on him, whether in a big moment or the continuous small ones.
Can’t be trusted, should be on the chopping block too. Sell for £25m.
THIS!
Was it a foul? Maybe. But he didn't do himself any favour there. Fecking push the guys trying to block you, show some dominance, it's YOUR box!
Tired of having such weak, loser keepers, Bayindir is even worse. Need someone in the Emi Martinez ilk.
Capable of the few good games but he has now that aura of panic and distrust around him a bit like Ramsdale. You need to bite the bullet and correct your mistake the way we did.
The issue is you have so many other problems that you're probably stuck with him for another season at least. You will have to endure this until his FFP value gets around 10/15million and you can bin him off back to a mid table club in Italy, Spain or France.
The issue is you have so many other problems that you're probably stuck with him for another season at least. You will have to endure this until his FFP value gets around 10/15million and you can bin him off back to a mid table club in Italy, Spain or France.
Absolute clown, terrible keeper
I hate the DDG out brigade. This guy is not an upgrade.
For me your goalkeeper should be sorting out corners and set pieces and the fact we're a shambles at both is partly on him.
Its probably 95% on him.
A goalkeeper should own that 6 yard box.
Clean people out on the way to getting the ball, dominate it.
Failing to do your job and then whining to the ref is pathetic.
When you consider the great keepers we have had in the past this guy is not fit to lace their boots.
Another one on the replace list. It's half the squad now. Brilliant...
Barthez was a lot better than he showed towards the end of his time at Utd.
Onana has been poor the last few games, despite being quite good up until recently. Needs to pull his head out of his arse and get back to playing like he did for the first few months of the season.
How's he going to clean out the guy nudging him from behind? It's a pretty standard foul on a goalkeeper.
He’s never really passed the eye test for me. Even when he was in his “good form” period and the stats were saying he was saving a high proportion of shots. I can only remember a handful of saves that were actually good. Most of them were just regulation saves from speculative shots. He was facing loads of those due to how poor he’d been at saving regulation shots previously, meaning every man and his dog was having a pop from everywhere. He’s not a great keeper and his ball playing ability has been wildly oversold.
I don’t rate him and it was a shit piece of goalkeeping but why aren’t the defenders going in and protecting him when they see two Wolves players on him?
It's a failing all around.
Our coaching staff should be setting us up way better at corners (obviously)
Our outfield players should have the nous and brain to want to protect their goalkeeper
Our goalkeeper should have the command to be able to grab our players and get them back to protect him.
Literally everyone comes out of it looking like shit.
It’s not a foul at all.
Onana should be the one with authority there. Shout at a defender to come and help push the player out of the way, just be proactive. Own that 6 yard box.
The whole thing was so apathetic.
What's De Gea been up to since he left?
It was the right decision to let De Gea leave. It was the wrong decision to bring in Onana as his replacement.
Awful awful get rid. That said what happend last night was a joke. There'd be media meltdown if we got a goal like that given..
Also still can't belive there's lads who still think it was wrong to get rid of De Gea
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It's not contracdictory to believe in thinking Onana is terrible whilst also thinking it was right to get rid of De Gea
Also still can't belive there's lads who still think it was wrong to get rid of De Gea
.It's not contracdictory to believe in thinking Onana is terrible whilst also thinking it was right to get rid of De Gea
I wanted to give him time to have a judgement on him, but to be honest, in two seasons he costed us so many points that it becomes now impossible to rely on him.
A keeper can concede silly goals, not closing their angles, bad sweeping etc, but to be honest conceding a direct corner when your sub conceded one a week before is pure madness.
We need to offload him next year, loan him out and recruit a new one
A keeper can concede silly goals, not closing their angles, bad sweeping etc, but to be honest conceding a direct corner when your sub conceded one a week before is pure madness.
We need to offload him next year, loan him out and recruit a new one
Nudging a player in the back as they jump is constantly called as a foul and not just against keepers.
He's been one of the best keepers this season in Europe. Made a couple of howlers over the last couple of weeks but yesterday's wasnt one of them in my opinion.
The teams turned to shit as everyone is struggling with change and why wouldn't that include him?
The issue with some fans is they rarely forgive a player that they didn't want especially taking over from a club legend.
If a season and a half is enough for a fan to have a few, fair enough but isn't for me. There is not another keeper in this league that would be performing better than him under these conditions. Pressure is a real thing.
The teams turned to shit as everyone is struggling with change and why wouldn't that include him?
The issue with some fans is they rarely forgive a player that they didn't want especially taking over from a club legend.
If a season and a half is enough for a fan to have a few, fair enough but isn't for me. There is not another keeper in this league that would be performing better than him under these conditions. Pressure is a real thing.
Nah, don't be silly as that doesn't suit the narrative of some fans. Whether people think he is good enough or not; that was a foul.
i'm suprised if next season he's still the main goalkeeper.