[G97]

Again, look back at the match day thread, people complain over literally everything. He was right to come for the ball, it was a Dorgu “blunder” not his.

The second was most certainly his mistake though, no doubting that!

If it’s Maguire or Martinez I can see why he’s coming for that. But he knows Dorgu can run and had it completely under control. How doesn’t he know the next action for Dorgu when he got to the ball could only be to pass it back to him? Utterly Onana’s fault.

 

[Danny]

Exactly. Dorgu had it all the way and Onana misread the situation by coming out that far for a ball that was under the control of the defender by then. Dorgu should have seen Onana’s mistake and just cleared the ball. A cluster all the way around.

He did that about 10mins after too so at least he learnt from it!

 

[Olecurls99]

Isn't it rich?
Are we a pair (of safe hands)?
Me here at last on the ground
The ball in mid-air
Send in the clowns

Isn't it pish?
The fans don't approve
One who keeps tearing around
One who can't move
Where are the clowns?
Send in the clowns

I can't seem to stop
Flapping at balls
Constantly making defenders feel like they're
Climbing up walls
Making the fans scared
Coming miles off my line
No one is there

Don't you love farce?
My fault, I fear
I thought that you'd want another Taibi
Sorry, my dear
But where are the clowns?
Quick, send in the clowns
Don't bother I'm here

Isn't it rich?
Isn't it queer?
Losing my timing this late
In my career
But where are the clowns?
There ought to be clowns
Well, I'll still be here next year...

A triumph

 

[sebsheep]

https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/s/7r4dWm6MmD

Is the error here not the miscommunication between the two?
Onana looks to be coming to collect the ball for the first goal, which is actually a fair decision. Dorgu is trying to play it back to Onana, which is also a fair decision. The issue is that neither one seems to be aware of what the other is doing.

 

[Trex]

Is the error here not the miscommunication between the two?
Onana looks to be coming to collect the ball for the first goal, which is actually a fair decision. Dorgu is trying to play it back to Onana, which is also a fair decision. The issue is that neither one seems to be aware of what the other is doing.

Normally the keeper is vocal in this situations, atleast from my little experience in football.

 

[Oranges038]

Is the error here not the miscommunication between the two?
Onana looks to be coming to collect the ball for the first goal, which is actually a fair decision. Dorgu is trying to play it back to Onana, which is also a fair decision. The issue is that neither one seems to be aware of what the other is doing.

Clearly is. Neither is aware of the other in the situation.

Dorgu probably doesn't get a shout so plays the ball to where Onana was.If he does get the shout, then all he has to do is step across and protect the ball into the path of the keeper.

Either way, the biggest feck up there is on Onana, he needs to be the one taking control there. Either he comes and takes the ball or be drops off and gives the angle for a pass. Both options require communication, there didn't seem to be any.

 

[lex talionis]

Onana should have seen Dorgu being in control of reaching the ball. Both erred, but Onana bears more responsibility for the mess.

We have a serious problem at the keeper position.

 

[DJ_21]

Need to sell him. I really want us to sign Diogo Costa. Wanted him to replace DDG. And now we have the Portuguese connection

 

[DJ_21]

Clearly is. Neither is aware of the other in the situation.

Dorgu probably doesn't get a shout so plays the ball to where Onana was.If he does get the shout, then all he has to do is step across and protect the ball into the path of the keeper.

Either way, the biggest feck up there is on Onana, he needs to be the one taking control there. Either he comes and takes the ball or be drops off and gives the angle for a pass. Both options require communication, there didn't seem to be any.

I’d say Onana has better view though since he’s facing everyone.

 

[USREDEVIL]

At first i thought it was on Dorgu, but Onana should know not to go toward the defender who has the ball when the attacker is pressing him. The space is needed to avoid a tackle. Dorgu didnt do very well in passing it back though.

 

[dwd]

Isn't it rich?
Are we a pair (of safe hands)?
Me here at last on the ground
The ball in mid-air
Send in the clowns

Isn't it pish?
The fans don't approve
One who keeps tearing around
One who can't move
Where are the clowns?
Send in the clowns

I can't seem to stop
Flapping at balls
Constantly making defenders feel like they're
Climbing up walls
Making the fans scared
Coming miles off my line
No one is there

Don't you love farce?
My fault, I fear
I thought that you'd want another Taibi
Sorry, my dear
But where are the clowns?
Quick, send in the clowns
Don't bother I'm here

Isn't it rich?
Isn't it queer?
Losing my timing this late
In my career
But where are the clowns?
There ought to be clowns
Well, I'll still be here next year...

The feck is this shit?

 

[JBG]

Btw... Am I the only one who feels like we're back in the Barthez years with Onana? Reminds me so much with the way he(Onana) has too much confidence on the ball, despite not being as good as he thinks he is and also just concedes goals that never should go in so easily. Luckily Onana hasn't gone on runs like Barthez did.. I remember doing that when we played 7 a side when we where younger, for my local team when I had to play in goal(cause I was one of the few that was 1.7m+ tall at that age, but I was an attacker). Fun times.

 

[Shark]

Btw... Am I the only one who feels like we're back in the Barthez years with Onana? Reminds me so much with the way he(Onana) has too much confidence on the ball, despite not being as good as he thinks he is and also just concedes goals that never should go in so easily. Luckily Onana hasn't gone on runs like Barthez did.. I remember doing that when we played 7 a side when we where younger, for my local team when I had to play in goal(cause I was one of the few that was 1.7m+ tall at that age, but I was an attacker). Fun times.

At least we were actually a good side when we had Barthez, to make up for it. Onana's mistakes are magnified even more so because our forwards barely have a goal between them. That's not in defense of him, he needs to be sold asap.

 

[Ronaldo's ego]

It was a long ball played over the top, Dorgu was yards ahead of his man and with the slick surface and bounce he’s clearly going to deal with. Add the fact it happened on the edge of the box, there’s absolutely no reason whatsoever to be that far out in that situation. He’s just out of his depth, it’s as simple as that.

 

[humdinger]

I would be happy if he never played for us again. Dreadful keeper.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Watched the Arsenal penalty shootout and clearly was inspired by the wrong goalkeeper

 

[Mmm-Qatarian]

I know plenty of people will soon be jumping in here to blame him for the loss because he didn't save any of the penalties so let me get in first by saying this was a much, much better game from Onana and he played a big part in getting us to the shootout in the first place.

 

[Mmm-Qatarian]

Watched the Arsenal penalty shootout and clearly was inspired by the wrong goalkeeper

Feck, I was almost fast enough...

 

[Crimson King]

I know plenty of people will soon be jumping in here to blame him for the loss because he didn't save any of the penalties so let me get in first by saying this was a much, much better game from Onana and he played a big part in getting us to the shootout in the first place.

He was, but he dives so early for the pens. Maybe that's his thing, but it didn't work today, unfortunately

 

[CasaStreets]

Been a dreadful season for him but this was a mostly solid game with good stops, barring one spilled cross early on which didn't amount to anything

 

[Mmm-Qatarian]

He was, but he dives so early for the pens. Maybe that's his thing, but it didn't work today, unfortunately

I mean penalties are something of a lottery. I think at this stage people really are just finding reasons to slate him - Onana had a very good game today if we're being objective. I don't mean to be an arse but I suspect most people here won't be...

 

[Annihilate Now!]

He was, but he dives so early for the pens. Maybe that's his thing, but it didn't work today, unfortunately

It was a bit comical by the 4th pen.

 

[Rockets Redglare]

I know plenty of people will soon be jumping in here to blame him for the loss because he didn't save any of the penalties so let me get in first by saying this was a much, much better game from Onana and he played a big part in getting us to the shootout in the first place.

Yeah he didn’t really put a foot wrong. That defeat was not on him at all.

 

[Stretfordender]

Did ok today, however generally nowhere near the standard required for this great club. I’d sooner go and get Leno in than have this clown btw the sticks next season

 

[Crimson King]

I mean penalties are something of a lottery. I think at this stage people really are just finding reasons to slate him - Onana had a very good game today if we're being objective. I don't mean to be an arse but I suspect most people here won't be...

I mean I think both things can be true, no? He played well but made it too easy in the shoot out? It is a lottery, for sure, but you at least want to make it difficult. Fulham were waiting for him to dive, it looks like they'd done their homework.

However, he's not the reason we lost today. We were poor for most of the game, created very little in attack for the most part. It was also 2 very poor penalties from our players that ended it for us.

 

[Amar__]

I thought we will never have worse keeper on penalties than de Gea but looks like he is even worse at penalties.

 

[Big Ben Foster]

Good game, poor shootout

 

[Irwin99]

Decent today, although feels like the crowd were getting on him a bit with the speed of his distribution.

 

[Ludens the Red]

Couldnt make it up. We signed a goalkeeper who is not better than the previous one in any facet and is somehow even worse at saving pens.

 

[Superunknown]

Thought he played fine today. Yeah, he wasn't amazing in the shootout, but really the attackers should have prevented the team from going into the shootout anyway by winning the game in normal time, or in extra time.

That being said, it wouldn't kill him to practise his penalty-saving technique.

 

[Silverman]

I'm getting fed up of him. Those penalties were criminal. A goalkeeper cannot be that easy to score a penalty on.

 

[Mmm-Qatarian]

I like how we're seeing shouts that Onana is "worse than De Gea at saving penalties" because he failed to save four of Fulham's today, when De Gea once had a shootout where he let in 11 in a row...

 

[Slevs]

Never looked like saving one.
Taking 1-2 minutes for each goal kick is also infuriating.

 

[Adamsk7]

I’m probably harsh but I actually think he should have done better for their goal. A keeper with more spring would have got a hand to that I think.

The penalties were very uninspiring - just sort of folded to either side a bit

 

[sebsheep]

There are definitely people on here determined to post in this thread about how rubbish he is no matter how he performed in a game.

 

[Slevs]

I’m probably harsh but I actually think he should have done better for their goal. A keeper with more spring would have got a hand to that I think.

The penalties were very uninspiring - just sort of folded to either side a bit

Nah, can't do much in that scenario.

 

[Stadjer]

He has enough bad games to hate on Onana being the Manchester United goalkeeper. Today was not such a game yet somehow Onana is still blamed for losing? He had a decent game.

 

[Oranges038]

I mean penalties are something of a lottery. I think at this stage people really are just finding reasons to slate him - Onana had a very good game today if we're being objective. I don't mean to be an arse but I suspect most people here won't be...

Find this obsession of blaming keepers for a shootout loss is fecking weird. Goalkeepers were at a massive disadvantage before they changed the rules, you must stand still, not step off your line or you'll get booked. Then you have to try to react and dive for a ball in less than in 1 second from a standing start.

He had a good game, but I don't blame him for not saving penalties. In shootouts, I say just keep diving to your right, you'll probably save one or two anyway.

 

[Oranges038]

I thought we will never have worse keeper on penalties than de Gea but looks like he is even worse at penalties.

Peter Schmeichel only ever saved 1.

He's probably Utd's worst ever keeper on penalties.

 

[Danny]

Peter Schmeichel only ever saved 1.

He's probably Utd's worst ever keeper on penalties.

And a vital one at that if true!