He's too good to be playing RWB but he's also our best player there.
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Just play Dalot or Mazraoui there. Both of those players can secure the right side defensively but are at least good enough to find Amad in the wide positions or pockets, where he is more than good enough to continue doing his thing with ball progression and take-ons.
This whole idea that only he can play is wild. Currently it's essentially a freer full back role being given to our best attacking talent, who's there simply because he can run back and defend.
I agree with every thing your saying to be honest. We should probably move Mazraoui to LWB and Dalot to the other side and allow Amad to play further up.
Because Antony is the only other actual attacker we've played in that role.
If it's Mazraoui then you still have the exact same problem: you're removing one of our bigger attacking threats to play a less able attacking player (in this case a fullback) instead. Which inevitably hurts your attack more than simply continuing with Amad in the role he's been thriving and having an extra attacker on the pitch does.
It's not a coincidence that Amorim has so regularly played an attacking player in at least one of those wingback positions, both here and at Sporting. Playing two fullbacks in those roles instead is a very defensive set-up. We're not playing Arsenal every week, in the majority of games we need much more attacking threat than Dalot/Mazraoui can provide.
That's a fairly simplistic take of 'more attacking players = more attacking intent'. Currently we're not progressing the ball in the middle because of nervous centre backs and we have a midfield that is getting swarmed in the middle because teams are not pressing us high. The WBs in this team are just essentially first option passes from the centre back, which means our most progressive dribbler and take on threat is being asked to receive the ball near the halfway line. Meanwhile, our most 'productive' players in Rashford/Garnacho are ambling in the opposition half and the in between spaces messing up attacks because they are in bad form and have little guile to either feed in our centre forward and cannot consistently beat a player, whilst losing the ball in the process. You're betting on them being productive but losing all the progressive synergy that gets them there in the first place.
Playing a Mazraoui (a progressive player in between the lines and from the back/wings) with Amad as one of the 10s means the team should play better in between the boxes. Garnacho and Rashford's goal productivity is not near worth persisting as first names on the pitch, especially if it means putting Amad further back in his own half. I understand what Amorim is trying to do and emulate but he's got to figure this out it's not going to work with that duo in our current state.
He has to play as one of the 10s. Hes our best attacker by a distance. Wasted at RWB.
Less able yes but not unable he’s not a Wan bissaka or a Dalot he’s modern fullback that got offensive qualties you rather have your best players on the pitch. @criticalanalysis gets it.
It's like playing young Rooney as RWB. Of course he'd do better than anyone there, but surely that's a waste of attacking talent.
Too much pressure is being piled on to him at this point, but the fact is he isnt that good at the moment and passes to the opposition more than his trammates.
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Hardly a waste when he's still getting in attacking positions and is still demonstrably our best attacker in his RWB role. He has 6 assists in the league, 3 under Almorim already
People are too fixated on the title of RWB for his position.
He gets forward plenty of times and his ball progression from the side can't be replicated by someone else.
I wouldn't like Dalot taking up those positions at all.
He gets forward plenty of times and his ball progression from the side can't be replicated by someone else.
I wouldn't like Dalot taking up those positions at all.
This little guy is carrying our entire attack on his shoulders.
thats the thing i do not understand why people say it's waste putting him in that position. He score goals, asisst, attacks and one the best players so far
. Plus he is more of a RM position the 3-4-3 not a wingback.I would like for one game to see him as a CAM, Mazraoui as RWB and maybe Garnacho as LWB to be the attacking wide player
Perfectly content in seeing Amad continue in this role.
Just need to get our left sided equivalent.
Just need to get our left sided equivalent.
Reason people or let me say me personally, want him as one of the AMs is because I’d rather see Amad in the AM role and Mazraoui as the RWB than see any of Rashford/Mount/Bruno in AM and Amad as Rwb
The problem with Bruno + Amad as the two #10s is neither has the pace to stretch the attack. It's really easy for the defence to step up and squeeze the middle 3rd.
So we'd have to do something like Bruno as the CM and Rashford / Garnacho + Amad as the two #10s. I'm not convinced that's better than what we're currently doing.
So we'd have to do something like Bruno as the CM and Rashford / Garnacho + Amad as the two #10s. I'm not convinced that's better than what we're currently doing.
Was awful yesterday, certainly not the only player having a shocker of a game, but from his recent high standards yesterday was not pretty at all.
We need him closer to the goal where he can make something happen. The issue might be the lack of intelligence from the rest of the players so he probably won't see as much of the ball to be as effective yet.
This just isn't true. He wasn't at his best but was still decent. Their defence was scared every time he ran at them and he got the assist for Bruno's goal.
Oh look, back to the agenda again.
That's a strange take for me I think he was decent, certainly not one of his best games but didn't have anything close to a shocker.
Not really. His strength is running at players with the ball and being a proper winger. That role gets him on the ball with the space to run at players and make things happen. You put him as a 10 and you can't run at players so much, far more about linking up and being a goal threat in behind. Amorim at sporting apparently used that Quenda player in the exact same way while the other wing back/wide midfielder was a more defensive guy.
There’s a couple that just need to be thread banned. It’s borderline wumming
Agreed.
Im still not seeing what people seeing to rate him so highly, he was poor again yesterday and passed the ball straight to Forest players multiple times.
Statistics are your friend.
If you aren't seeing it then football might not be the sport for you.
Where's the agenda?
He had a poor game yesterday, that's undeniable, and even more jarring when he has come off the back of a very good spell.
Usual suspect. Bizarre behaviour.
He got the technical ability to break through the middle and thats more dangerous to opposition than doing a man out on the wings and it opens up more open space for the wingers and strikers because then you get a cb that has to commit to you and then you get fullbacks who is trying to cover that said cb which opens up space for the runners. This is one of the reasons Brunos been holding us back in that sense he can’t do his man when playing as a 10 which means he never puts a player out of a defensive situation 100%.
Great response, very constructive.
Just waiting for you to point out what's incorrect about what I said....
No need to be constructive. Just pointing it out when I see it. Years and years. On you go.
Again, you can't point out where I'm incorrect, or where I have an agenda.
Which is fine, because it's obvious you can't do so.
Why he hasn't been tried as a 10 is beyond me. He is one of the few players in the team who can both create and take care of the ball in tight spaces, much better than any of our current set of number 10s. Maz and Dalot can continue filling in at WB, and while there can be a drop in quality in that position, you more than make up for it in the number ten position by not giving the ball away to the opposition at every opportunity.
He had quieter game and not poorer. There is a subtle difference. There was no Maz behind him yesterday to make progressive passes closer to half line mark to aid him. Yoro was quiet and less adventurous. That played a factor.
You’re an Antony sympathiser no wonder that you don’t see it with him. Going through your post seeing you saying Antony is one of our better players disgusted me to the core.
I watch every game and havent seen anything from him to justify this high rating he gets
Then you’re clearly seeing what you want to see (particularly given your Antony backing.)
He had over 84% pass accuracy against Forest, up from his average over the season
Couldnt be more wrong