[Champ]

Chump…not single positive post in this thread from you. Any attempt is riddled with criticism. Agenda.

Again, what is incorrect about my post?

 

[Red00012]

Been poor the past few games, gives an opportunity for someone else to step up to the plate.
Not the end of the world.

Joshua Zirkzee is very slowly bringing us to the end of the world

 

[AgentSmith]

Again, what is incorrect about my post?

"It's not like everything revolves around Amad, others players are equally capable."

This statement was evidently incorrect. Who are the players as capable as Amad?

 

[Posh Red]

"It's not like everything revolves around Amad, others players are equally capable."

This statement was evidently incorrect. Who are the players as capable as Amad?

None of our forwards are, and it’s extremely obvious just from watching our games this season.

 

[Tibs]

We are missing our young king badly

 

[JBG]

None of our forwards are, and it’s extremely obvious just from watching our games this season.

Exactly why when the news about Amads injury broke, I was genuinely devastated. Because I knew that we're fecked attacking wise. Only he and Bruno are able to create something out of nothing and also only ones who seem to be able to score consistently this season.

 

[LeonDion]

Again, what is incorrect about my post?

You

 

[jem]

"It's not like everything revolves around Amad, others players are equally capable."

This statement was evidently incorrect. Who are the players as capable as Amad?

What’s also hilarious is that this same poster goes on about agendas against Garnacho…

 

[Champ]

You

So nothing then.

Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Champ]

What’s also hilarious is that this same poster goes on about agendas against Garnacho…

And yet I'm still waiting to hear what is actually incorrect about what I posted....strange that.

 

[jem]

And yet I'm still waiting to hear what is actually incorrect about what I posted....strange that.

Well the fact that you implied he wouldn't be missed was pretty hard to take seriously; and also the fact that it's hard to find a single post of unqualified praise from you for a player who has scored a hattrick this season, scored the winning goal against City, the tying goal against Liverpool, a brace against PAOK, and has had a number of other good-to-very good performances. Any yet you complain about an agenda against Garnacho, who hasn't come anywhere close to matching Amad's levels this season.

 

[Champ]

Well the fact that you implied he wouldn't be missed was pretty hard to take seriously; and also the fact that it's hard to find a single post of unqualified praise from you for a player who has scored a hattrick this season, scored the winning goal against City, the tying goal against Liverpool, a brace against PAOK, and has had a number of other good-to-very good performances. Any yet you complain about an agenda against Garnacho, who hasn't come anywhere close to matching Amad's levels this season.

So again, nothing I've said is actually untrue.
We are a dysfunctional side with no cohesive attacking thrust, we have had the same attacking threat without Amad as we have had with.
That is very hard to argue against, despite protestations of 'agenda' or variations thereof, which are quite frankly straw man at best.

The simple fact is no one can highlight exactly where what I state is untrue, despite many trying.

Is Amad a good player? Yes. Is he the answer to our prayers? No. Is he the be all and end all of our attacking threat? No, not at all.

 

[simonhch]

So again, nothing I've said is actually untrue.
We are a dysfunctional side with no cohesive attacking thrust, we have had the same attacking threat without Amad as we have had with.
That is very hard to argue against, despite protestations of 'agenda' or variations thereof, which are quite frankly straw man at best.

The simple fact is no one can highlight exactly where what I state is untrue, despite many trying.

Is Amad a good player? Yes. Is he the answer to our prayers? No. Is he the be all and end all of our attacking threat? No, not at all.

There is no doubt that Amad is our most dangerous player, and our most potent attacking threat, but I think as you rightly point out, it’s wrong that we keep talking so fervently about individuals. Players are ultimately malleable and even those most average players can look very very good in the right system. Just like how some very good players can look distinctly average in the wrong system.

It all comes down to the system at the end of the day. And how they work together as a unit. We are definitely poorer for the absence of Amad, but even with Amad the only reason we created chances was because of his individual brilliance, rather than the effectiveness of our team approach. This has been the case since Ten Hag, and now Amorim, have been in charge. There is no discernibly effective pattern to our attacking play, and in such scenarios, even the best players are easily nullified.

 

[Ted Lasso]

We are missing our young king badly

Ironically not just for goals, but some GD hunger on the pitch. Can't think of another United player not in defense that harries the opposition with as much conviction

 

[jem]

So again, nothing I've said is actually untrue.
We are a dysfunctional side with no cohesive attacking thrust, we have had the same attacking threat without Amad as we have had with.
That is very hard to argue against, despite protestations of 'agenda' or variations thereof, which are quite frankly straw man at best.

The simple fact is no one can highlight exactly where what I state is untrue, despite many trying.

Is Amad a good player? Yes. Is he the answer to our prayers? No. Is he the be all and end all of our attacking threat? No, not at all.

Ok so who are the other players who are equally capable as Amad? Perhaps Bruno, but he’s been playing a midfield role lately. So who is equally capable as Amad in the 10 role (or the rwb role for that matter)?

 

[Champ]

Ok so who are the other players who are equally capable as Amad? Perhaps Bruno, but he’s been playing a midfield role lately. So who is equally capable as Amad in the 10 role (or the rwb role for that matter)?

You've answered your own question, Bruno.
He has been out primary goal threat all campaign and will continue to do so.
Garnacho also, whilst not scoring freely, is an attacking threat and has changed games when he has been involved.

Unfortunately we are very light on attacking bodies currently, which ironically has been used as a stick to beat Garnacho with on here yet Amad gets away with any criticism despite similar performances.

 

[jem]

You've answered your own question, Bruno.
He has been out primary goal threat all campaign and will continue to do so.
Garnacho also, whilst not scoring freely, is an attacking threat and has changed games when he has been involved.

Unfortunately we are very light on attacking bodies currently, which ironically has been used as a stick to beat Garnacho with on here yet Amad gets away with any criticism despite similar performances.

There’s been nothing similar in Garnacho’s performances this year and Amad’s - Amad has been far superior. There’s an argument to be made for Bruno, but again you said ‘players’ and your use of the plural very much served to underscore your point that Amad would be easily replaced, which is of course absurd.