[Ekeke]

He is nowhere near Amad talent, he has scored 43% of our goals alone and ties up 2 or 3 opposition players whenever he plays due to the fear factor he brings.

He's also 2 years older and 2 years ago Amad hadnt done anything for us yet. So yes Amad is a level above where Garnacho was when playing well last season, but thats what you'd expect from an older player

 

[Marwood]

In the youth teams, he was always a good goal scorer and took his chances well

He seems to have lost the ability to finish - maybe feeling too much pressure. He should have buried the chance in the first half. The result would have been very different

He was and I felt when he first broke through to senior football he was.

But no doubt this season it's got to him. He's better than that finish yesterday.

 

[Freak]

Such a greedy greedy player. He’s the type of player who would annoy his fellow attackers just because of how selfish he is without having the quality to back it up.

 

[Ali Dia]

I think he'd look like a baller in any other well drilled team. So good at youth level, a certainty. We are just a poorly run club right now and everybody looks totally out of ideas of how to turn it around. Really poor season from Garnacho though it has to be said.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

He’s having an incredibly wasteful season but is clearly our main goal threat right now. He definitely was yesterday. If he had taken all the easy chances he’s missed this season he’d have an impressive goal tally for someone who isn’t a striker. And he’s young enough that there’s loads of time for him to get clinical and make smarter decisions. Thank feck we didn’t sell him.

 

[Ekeke]

Such a greedy greedy player. He’s the type of player who would annoy his fellow attackers just because of how selfish he is without having the quality to back it up.

Balanced out a lot by coming back to help the midfield with 2 tackles and 3 interceptions and tracking back in the 84th minute to the leftback spot to stop a Spurs counter and cover Dorgu's position

Meanwhile our other #10 Zirkzee made 0 and 0 with 0 times tracking back to stop a Spurs attack at the vital time.

I get it we're all frustrated that he missed such a clear chance. He shouldnt have. But he was our only threat and also worked hard for the team

 

[FlawlessVictory88]

Balanced out a lot by coming back to help the midfield with 2 tackles and 3 interceptions and tracking back in the 84th minute to the leftback spot to stop a Spurs counter and cover Dorgu's position

Meanwhile our other #10 Zirkzee made 0 and 0 with 0 times tracking back to stop a Spurs attack at the vital time.

I get it we're all frustrated that he missed such a clear chance. He shouldnt have. But he was our only threat and also worked hard for the team

Clearances Zirkzee 2 Garnacho 0
Blocks Zikrzee 4 Garnacho 1

Dribbles Zirkzee 5 Garnacho 1
Passes Zirkzee 26 Garnacho 18

Loss of possession Zirkzee 6 Garnacho 7. This despite Garnacho having less of the ball.

He was far from the only threat and considerably worse than Zirkzee.

 

[Ekeke]

Clearances Zirkzee 2 Garnacho 0
Blocks Zikrzee 4 Garnacho 1

Dribbles Zirkzee 5 Garnacho 1
Passes Zirkzee 26 Garnacho 18

Loss of possession Zirkzee 6 Garnacho 7. This despite Garnacho having less of the ball.

He was far from the only threat and considerably worse than Zirkzee.

He was our only threat, he had our one great chance and several other chances that he got on target

Zirkzee 2 shots 0 on target. Garnacho 4 shots 3 on target. Hojlund 3 shots 2 on target

 

[dogwithabone]

Clearances Zirkzee 2 Garnacho 0
Blocks Zikrzee 4 Garnacho 1

Dribbles Zirkzee 5 Garnacho 1
Passes Zirkzee 26 Garnacho 18

Loss of possession Zirkzee 6 Garnacho 7. This despite Garnacho having less of the ball.

He was far from the only threat and considerably worse than Zirkzee.

They both did the odd bit and then lots of poor decisions and misplaced passes etc. But that’s this United, no consistency and just play in moments hence why we are capable of winning the odd cup along the way.

 

[kouroux]

Managed to watch the game finally. Like I have always said, this kid is simply not good enough. He keeps making the same selfish decisions without any hint of improvement.

 

[Freak]

Balanced out a lot by coming back to help the midfield with 2 tackles and 3 interceptions and tracking back in the 84th minute to the leftback spot to stop a Spurs counter and cover Dorgu's position

Meanwhile our other #10 Zirkzee made 0 and 0 with 0 times tracking back to stop a Spurs attack at the vital time.

I get it we're all frustrated that he missed such a clear chance. He shouldnt have. But he was our only threat and also worked hard for the team

Yup, his work rate definitely cannot be questioned. What frustrates me isn’t so much that he misses chances (well that too) but he doesn’t seem to have any sort of team play when attacking. It’s like he only has a plan A (get a shot in) without thinking of his team mates.

 

[DRJosh]

Garnacho is the sort of player that we need to nurture - he has the right work ethic despite his selfish play. I hope he stays but won’t blame him for leaving to further his career.

 

[Trex]

He's a kid, there's a lot there but also a lot to work on. He shouldn't be starting though. If I was Amorim I'll show he clips from the game, just how many times he ignored Dorgu run which was just poor decision making.

 

[Sunny Jim]

i wish people would pile on our owners (Glazers and INEOS) with such ferocity as they are doing it to our youngsters.

 

[Ekeke]

Yup, his work rate definitely cannot be questioned. What frustrates me isn’t so much that he misses chances (well that too) but he doesn’t seem to have any sort of team play when attacking. It’s like he only has a plan A (get a shot in) without thinking of his team mates.

You're right and it is frustrating but he's also good at it, which is why he's our only player who always has a shot and always has a shot on target per game. He's likely to improve as he isnt playing as well as he has already and hes very young. So its likely more of those efforts will find the back of the net - if he scores I imagine you wont be as frustrated even if he is being one dimensional

 

[tomaldinho1]

i wish people would pile on our owners (Glazers and INEOS) with such ferocity as they are doing it to our youngsters.

Point out the out of line posts?

 

[Sunny Jim]

Point out the out of line posts?

Youre missing the point. This thread is top for replies where i think Glazers/INEOS out htread should be a sticky on the main page

 

[Marwood]

I think he'd look like a baller in any other well drilled team. So good at youth level, a certainty. We are just a poorly run club right now and everybody looks totally out of ideas of how to turn it around. Really poor season from Garnacho though it has to be said.

If we were a well run club he'd have a third of the appearances he currently has.

He never showed enough in the U21's to say this lad should be a certainty for the first team.

 

[AngeloHenriquez]

Poor game yesterday, selfish and ignored the overlap time and again and had woeful finishing.

He is capable of more and should be retained, the issue is he is starting when he should be on the bench and we have a senior left #10 he can learn from, all youngsters blame hot and cold but I hope he learns from this as we have seen in other games he is capable of being less selfish.

 

[Shark]

Absolutely shocking miss yesterday, but then again he nearly scored from a shot outside of in around the box afterwards. He tries to score the perfect goal instead of just drilling it, but that's youth for you.

 

[SuperiorXI]

Absolutely shocking miss yesterday, but then again he nearly scored from a shot outside of in around the box afterwards. He tries to score the perfect goal instead of just drilling it, but that's youth for you.

Yeah, he needs guidance. Problem is a lot of fans and posters in here put the expectations on him usually reserved for senior experienced players. Our young players shouldn't be in this situation. Even the Class of 92 had an important support structure around them.

 

[mjstokes85]

The amount of times someone makes a good overlap and he just cuts back inside is astonishing, absolutely no intelligence at all.

 

[tomaldinho1]

Youre missing the point. This thread is top for replies where i think Glazers/INEOS out htread should be a sticky on the main page

We wouldn't have a forum though? Glazers are undeniably the worst but owners are mostly invisible, everyone agrees on them being leeches.

 

[Oscar Bonavena]

The amount of times someone makes a good overlap and he just cuts back inside is astonishing, absolutely no intelligence at all.

The problem is he thinks the overlapping run is purely for his benefit so he can cut inside. I don't think it crosses his mind that the overlapper (Dorgu) might actually want to be fed the ball once in a while!

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

Yeah, he needs guidance. Problem is a lot of fans and posters in here put the expectations on him usually reserved for senior experienced players. Our young players shouldn't be in this situation. Even the Class of 92 had an important support structure around them.

I mean he’s pretty experienced at this point. It’s now almost 2 full seasons of being first choice and even before that a full season of consistently super sub minutes.

Like at what point do people expect any signs of improvement? 4 full seasons? Should we wait until he’s 23 before wondering if he’ll improve at all? Because right now he feels largely like the same player he’s always been, with a bit worse acceleration and burst but better positional instincts off the ball.

I just worry that we get sucked into this same pattern with young players where they get almost unlimited opportunities and time without much progress, and then by the time people realize “hey maybe this isn’t the next great United academy star” it’s already too late.

 

[SuperiorXI]

I mean he’s pretty experienced at this point. It’s now almost 2 full seasons of being first choice and even before that a full season of consistently super sub minutes.

Like at what point do people expect any signs of improvement? 4 full seasons? Should we wait until he’s 23 before wondering if he’ll improve at all? Because right now he feels largely like the same player he’s always been, with a bit worse acceleration and burst but better positional instincts off the ball.

I just worry that we get sucked into this same pattern with young players where they get almost unlimited opportunities and time without much progress, and then by the time people realize “hey maybe this isn’t the next great United academy star” it’s already too late.

He's not experienced to the level we require. A club of this stature needs winners who are at the top level, that's the environment needed to nurture youth. At the moment we rely on the youth, build them up and then tear them down. Look at what happened to Rashford.

 

[BorisManUtd]

Frustrating stat. He's basically more likely to score with those shots outside the box he has every game than with sitters. I do like Garnacho and he'll be very good player when/if he improves in terms of chances conversion but this season he's lost us some points missing his chances (IIrc Palace and West Ham away are examples).

 

[criticalanalysis]

Said it before but I reckon when he signed that 'reasonable' contract a couple of years ago, the goal bonus must have been massive.

 

[lsd]

Is it true he has had no goals or assists in the league since Amorim joined?

 

[Tosicsleftpeg]

The criticism of him is outrageous and needs to stop. New the only one getting in the position to score a goal. Just because he misses isn't the end of the world. Our fans are a joke I'm positive him and Bruno would smash it anywhere else.

 

[gza the genius]

Probably going to get slated for this but the way he's playing right now reminds me of Antony. Can't beat a man and cuts inside and shoots at every opportunity. When he doesn't do that he actually does pretty well but it's definitely his default choice.

 

[Tosicsleftpeg]

Probably going to get slated for this but the way he's playing right now reminds me of Antony. Can't beat a man and cuts inside and shoots at every opportunity. When he doesn't do that he actually does pretty well but it's definitely his default choice.

You mean like 1 game ago against Leicester when he beat his man down the left side 4 or 5 times and set up a goal for us...

He's a young player he will be inconsistent.

 

[gza the genius]

You mean like 1 game ago against Leicester when he beat his man down the left side 4 or 5 times and set up a goal for us...

He's a young player he will be inconsistent.

That's been the anomaly lately. He did have a very good game against Leicester but he has mostly been very poor this season.

 

[G97]

I think he'd look like a baller in any other well drilled team. So good at youth level, a certainty. We are just a poorly run club right now and everybody looks totally out of ideas of how to turn it around. Really poor season from Garnacho though it has to be said.

He really wouldn’t. He lacks the physical and technical attributes and the attitude to ever get minutes at title winning clubs.
His pace and dribbling abilities get massively overstated, plus his end product is abysmal.

 

[troylocker]

He was our only threat, he had our one great chance and several other chances that he got on target

Zirkzee 2 shots 0 on target. Garnacho 4 shots 3 on target. Hojlund 3 shots 2 on target

He is very good at getting into positions where he can finish and is a very good carryer fo the ball (as long as he doesn't have to dribble), but this season he's been the worst finisher in the league (3 goals from 7,47 xG and 55 shots in the PL is abysmal - He is in the bottom 1% tier when it comes goals vs xG) and he is shockingly bad at dribbling (25% successrate is the PL is bottom 2%). There is zero composure and 100% erraticness in him when finishing and dribbling.

He ahould also get better at looking for alternatives when he's in and around the box (bottom 6% in progressive passes). Of course we have the master of hiding playing up top in Hojlund, which most of the time is hard to find...

He works hard and runs a lot though.

 

[Hammondo]

He’s having an incredibly wasteful season but is clearly our main goal threat right now. He definitely was yesterday. If he had taken all the easy chances he’s missed this season he’d have an impressive goal tally for someone who isn’t a striker. And he’s young enough that there’s loads of time for him to get clinical and make smarter decisions. Thank feck we didn’t sell him.

I don't think he can be considered any goal threat when he doesn't score or assist.

 

[RuudTom83]

United fans love to criticise everyone and everything at the club (which is understandable tbh) but I will always put Garnacho low on the whipping list, as no matter what you say, he will also "do something" during the game.

The new manager and transfer talk has knocked his confidence for sure, but again nobody else is particularly shining under the current conditions at United, so a 20 year old kid can be given some slack.

He will come good!

 

[msjmohd83]

is Garnacho a first team player? no, but i would have him as a squad player. If we are a well-run club ideally Garnacho ,Mainoo and Amad would not have a lot of game time and slowly embedded to the first team.

 

[lost7]

He's young and even when he's not scoring, you can tell he is an impact players, things always happen around him. You lot are far too harsh on him, I genuinely believe he has the potential to become a top player here after a couple of seasons

 

[Eagle_eye]

I don't think he's scored in over 3 months.. He does get in to good positions, but something seems off with his shooting technique.. Surely that's something he can work on in training, no? His Idol Cristiano used to be first in and last out of the training field just practicing.. If he sorts his finishing , then we'll have a great asset there.