[The holy trinity 68]

To think the majority of the fan base were in uproar at the possibility of selling him for £60m

Anything north of £30m is a miracle at this point. He is just not very good at all.

 

[Posh Red]

I’d have taken the 70m and ran

There wasn’t an offer for anywhere near that

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

There wasn’t an offer for anywhere near that

Offers were in the 50’s but he ultimately didn’t agree terms with Napoli

Anyways, point being the uproar over potentially selling him was embarrassing, you’d have thought we were fielding offers for a young Rooney. It’s like people have forgotten what top talent/top players look like for us

 

[TheNewEra]

Hope he gets sold so we can get a better player for the system that knows when to pass or shoot

 

[Zumbi]

Dim player. Someone needs to tell him that respecting his overlap option, makes the opposition respect it too.

Yep. And he’s just not smart enough to realize that utilizing that option will give him better openings when he does decide to go solo.

 

[Skills]

He's just not a natural goal scorer. He's clearly got talent and I'm sure he'll develop into a decent player but he'll never be a top draw player because of this huge weakness.

In an ideal world you'd have him as an impact player right now. But we have no options so he has to start. Same scenario with Hojlund.

The problem is , that he's also dead selfish too. That's not a good combination.

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

Some poor decision making today but compared to our other attackers at least he still gets into positions to make poor decisions!

 

[Drifter]

Get rid of him in the summer, and watch him flourish somewhere else. United hamper players nowadays

 

[daba]

He’s frustrating as hell but he’s our best hope of having any joy for the rest of the season now Amad is out. I think we should sell in the summer if we get a reasonable bid, but until then he and Bruno are our only threats and we need them confident and firing.

 

[Ekeke]

He should have scored but top players occasionally miss chances like that. He's just a 20 year old, and we shouldnt be relying on those

 

[11101]

Desperately needs his confidence back but hes still our most talented attacker. We just need to explain to him that the people in red shirts are on his team and he is allowed to pass to them.

 

[bosnian_red]

The only attacker we have who is the right type of player and has the talent to be a top player, but he is 20 and not ready to handle the pressure and expectation of being literally the only chance for Manchester United to score goals. So we'll probably ruin him as a talent as we ruin everyone else, because we don't support the youth with ready players.

 

[Sancho99]

Did he pass even once to Dorgu on the overlap? FFS we've been waiting for a wingback who can bomb past players, now we have one and we refuse to pass to him.

 

[littlepeasoup]

Does at times seem like a right selfish prick.

 

[McLvnsMuse]

I don’t think he’ll ever be great at this club. I hope I’m wrong.

He has a lot of bad habits and I’m not sure he cares enough to address them. A lot came easy to him because of how poor we’ve been recently.

- Starting place
- Good contract
- Iconic chant + fan adulation

The result

- Poor defensive application
- Lazy touches and passes
- Selfish play/Hero ball

Him, lissandro, Dalot. Sellable assets I think we can live without.

 

[gulli_G]

I don’t think he’ll ever be great at this club. I hope I’m wrong.

He has a lot of bad habits and I’m not sure he cares enough to address them. A lot came easy to him because of how poor we’ve been recently.

- Starting place
- Good contract
- Iconic chant + fan adulation

The result

- Poor defensive application
- Lazy touches and passes
- Selfish play/Hero ball

Him, lissandro, Dalot. Sellable assets I think we can live without.

I agree fully with this assessment, today it was frustrating to see Dorgu make the overlap (that is a trademark of City's team) and he just would not pass and went looking for the hero shot.

 

[RedDevilCanuck]

I think he will improve over the years.

But I'm worried because he can't beat a player easily cutting to his right. All the best forwards can get space or a shot at will cutting on their strong foot. Garnacho uses straight line bursts to get space. He needs more.

I'm not sure this comes with age.

 

[Bojan11]

ETH used him wisely in his first season. Had him on the bench and gave him starts when we needed him. Whenever he came off the bench he was a threat. Now that Antony, Sancho and Rashford have all struggled in the past 12 months, we are relying on Garnacho to be the main man. He is not ready for that and we have been over playing him. He’s not a Rooney or Ronaldo level talent that he should be playing every game, so stop treating him like one. But sadly, we have no choice due to our poor decisions in the transfer market.

Fergie always had experienced pros in the attacking positions unless they were a special talent like Giggs, Rooney or Ronaldo, but even they were surrounded by good attackers.

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

I think he will improve over the years.

But I'm worried because he can't beat a player easily cutting to his right. All the best forwards can get space or a shot at will cutting on their strong foot. Garnacho uses straight line bursts to get space. He needs more.

I'm not sure this comes with age.

Yeah I just don’t think he’s as talented as people think. He’s not even very good right now, he’s a bang average mid table type winger. So unless he fully transforms his instincts/decision making on the ball or really becomes a lethal finisher (don’t see it), I think the rate of improvement he might have is relatively marginal compared to what many seem to expect

 

[ZainCRse7en]

The guy is no team player that is for sure. Such a selfish, selfish player. More like a maverick but nowhere near ready to carry us over games on a consistent basis.

 

[NinjaZombie]

I look at Garnacho and I wonder what Dan James could've done if he was given the same opportunities. Timing sometimes plays a major part in football.

 

[Shaw's Shank Redemption]

The reason he was more selfish yesterday is because he played more narrows as a LF.

In his last few games he has been playing more as a wide winger with Dalot playing as an narrow inverted wingback which allows Garnacho to play wider providing crosses in to the box - so him being greedy thing is not entirely true because he is assisting usually from the wide left centrally to the box.

He went back to trying to be a goalscorer today & didnt interlink well with an overlapping Dorgu compared to an under lapping Dalot.

Hopefully he changes this and can build a dynamic with Dorgu because having him combining both with inside Dalot or an outside Dorgu at LB would mean he turns out to be more of a complete player; right now he is only doing one.

However, it was still his first game with Dorgu.

Surprised with how bad his finishing is though, if he sorts that out then him being selfish wouldn't even be an issue.

Either be a selfish forward that can score goals, or an unselfish wide player that can create chances for others.

 

[Tallis]

In the youth teams, he was always a good goal scorer and took his chances well

He seems to have lost the ability to finish - maybe feeling too much pressure. He should have buried the chance in the first half. The result would have been very different

 

[Martinez4midfield]

If Napoli or Chelsea actually bought him for sums that were bandied about on here people would be taking the piss out of them as much they do United for Antony.

 

[bgoodall]

Guy misses a shot and this place predictably tears him to shreds. Can definitely tell most people on here have never played competitive sports.

 

[Desert Eagle]

ETH used him wisely in his first season. Had him on the bench and gave him starts when we needed him. Whenever he came off the bench he was a threat. Now that Antony, Sancho and Rashford have all struggled in the past 12 months, we are relying on Garnacho to be the main man. He is not ready for that and we have been over playing him. He’s not a Rooney or Ronaldo level talent that he should be playing every game, so stop treating him like one. But sadly, we have no choice due to our poor decisions in the transfer market.

Fergie always had experienced pros in the attacking positions unless they were a special talent like Giggs, Rooney or Ronaldo, but even they were surrounded by good attackers.

Exactly. He's young, inconsistent and talented but he's no generational player. He should be used as an impact sub right now but because we have so few options he's being forced to play most games. That miss was horrific though.

 

[Xeque_279]

Should've cashed out on him last month...

jk, he's still raw, decision making needs sorting out, shouldn't be depended on

 

[amolbhatia50k]

That miss was awful but it’s his football iq that worries me.

 

[Ekeke]

I remember watching Aguero at 19/20 for Atletico and seeing him being put clean through on goal and trying to chip the goalkeeper putting it straight into the keeper's arms

Dont be expecting a 20 year old to score all his great chances. We shouldnt need him to in order to get a point in matches.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

I remember watching Aguero at 19/20 for Atletico and seeing him being put clean through on goal and trying to chip the goalkeeper putting it straight into the keeper's arms

Dont be expecting a 20 year old to score all his great chances. We shouldnt need him to in order to get a point in matches.

I don’t think the finishing is the major issue. It’s that he consistently makes terrible decisions and displays a lack of football intelligence (movement aside). He’s not a team player, much like Rashford he just plays his own game and that’s not conducive to being part of a high quality team. He’s also a terrible passer so has one main trick to cut inside and shoot.

Needs to show improvement in those key areas if he’s going to be worth a starting place.

 

[Dannn411]

Dont think the anger with Garnacho is about the big chance he missed. Its about his general play. Particularly his failure to use his overlapping fullback, who was in great positions several times during the match, only to end up giving the ball away.

 

[Ibi Dreams]

Dont think the anger with Garnacho is about the big chance he missed. Its about his general play. Particularly his failure to use his overlapping fullback, who was in great positions several times during the match, only to end up giving the ball away.

All of it can be somewhat fairly excused by his age and inexperienced, to be honest. We are putting far too much pressure on him and expecting too much because of how bad we are overall. He shouldn't be expected to score every chance and make the right decision every time

Despite his mistakes he is still our most dangerous player at the moment

 

[The No.10!]

Think the epitome of all his misses this season were captured in that moment.
I still think that if he had converted the chances he had gotten in the beginning of the sesaon, EtH would be in a job and we might have been faring better.

He is 20, he will improve, yes. Aligned on all that. Want him to stick around, yes.

But, if you are relying on him as a first team starter (unfortunately for all parties), then the expectation around the final output needs to be clear. And that, in my view, is goal contributions.

 

[Swiss_Red89]

Next scapegoat just in place after Rashford left I can see.

Whats the plan of you guys? Sell the complete squad?

Bit of support and positivity for a young guy would not be the worst idea.

 

[crossy1686]

Some poor decision making today but compared to our other attackers at least he still gets into positions to make poor decisions!

He does it all the time, he’s not an intelligent footballer. He will never find consistency or true quality due to how poor his decision making is.

 

[pocco]

Guy misses a shot and this place predictably tears him to shreds. Can definitely tell most people on here have never played competitive sports.

He misses chances for fun, he’s missed some big chances in the last few games alone. Not only that but he is incredibly greedy with very little output for it.

 

[gulli_G]

Yeah I just don’t think he’s as talented as people think. He’s not even very good right now, he’s a bang average mid table type winger. So unless he fully transforms his instincts/decision making on the ball or really becomes a lethal finisher (don’t see it), I think the rate of improvement he might have is relatively marginal compared to what many seem to expect

This.

Unless there is a vast improvement, we should sell him in the summer and buy Cunha or another good No10.

 

[Rossa]

Desperately needs his confidence back but hes still our most talented attacker. We just need to explain to him that the people in red shirts are on his team and he is allowed to pass to them.

More talented than Amad? I doubt it.

Garnacho is good and is a great prospect, but he's proven that he isn't good enough to be a first teamer at United, for the time being. That's on the club, not him, per se.

I do wonder what his stand-out attributes are?

 

[flameinthesun]

Thought he did well in general when he got the ball, was our only real threat. Ideally would be a bench option but at the moment and probably for the rest of the season will be our most important attacker which says it all.

 

[gulli_G]

More talented than Amad? I doubt it.

Garnacho is good and is a great prospect, but he's proven that he isn't good enough to be a first teamer at United, for the time being. That's on the club, not him, per se.

I do wonder what his stand-out attributes are?

He is nowhere near Amad talent, he has scored 43% of our goals alone and ties up 2 or 3 opposition players whenever he plays due to the fear factor he brings.

Garnacho on the other hand has same limitations as Rashford, lack of intelligent decision making and shot variance.