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They say he still didn’t post anything about the derby win. Why could it be, is he not happy that we win against City?
 
I don’t think he’s suited to the attacking mid role, can’t see him playing wingback though unless he’s willing to put his ego aside and put a shift both ends.

Shame because he can become a good player if he keeps his head screwed on.

Don’t think he’s talented as Amad who has natural ability but could be one level below him.
 
Brazilian_Ronaldo_9 said:
I don’t think he’s suited to the attacking mid role, can’t see him playing wingback though unless he’s willing to put his ego aside and put a shift both ends.
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Why not? Amad did it very well and is now returning to attack - maybe it could be the same route for Garnacho. Unlike Rashford, he has workrate to play LWB, and besides he would be replacing a currently underperforming Dalot (so it’s easier to add value in this case)
 
Unlike Rashford, I feel its too premature to give up on him. Having said that if we received a sizeable bid for him, I think we should consider it as he's one of our assets that could fetch a very healthy fee, and one that would be considered pure profit too.
 
Alemar said:
They say he still didn’t post anything about the derby win. Why could it be, is he not happy that we win against City?
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That’s definitely ominous, if true. Especially when Amorim specifically mentioned about how they relate to their team mates. Not joining in with any of the celebrations on social media is not a good look in that context.
 
Shame as I rated him, I think he's got far too big for his boots. Hopefully he can be put back in his box and learn from this but I'm not entirely sure. I did notice when he was subbed recently he had a face like a slapped arse so whether there's something in his general attitude (adding to the entitled comment) that Ruben doesn't like.

It's refreshing to finally have a manager who seemingly isn't afraid to instill discipline, far too long we've played as a team of individuals, with no accountability over performances. It probably hasn't helped Garnacho seeing Rashy picked week in week out by ETH despite doing very little. So he probably thinks he doesn't need to either. I just hope Amorim is allowed to continue to insist on standards and a proper culture, it felt like ETH tried at first then for whatever reasons allowed the usual suspects to continue to do as they please. I can see him being very pro the likes of Maguire etc atm as he will appreciate his professionalism.

Wonder what the team around him is like, wasn't there that vape photo that he deleted on realising it was shown.

This is where we need to get some leaders in the dressing room, someone who can give these younger players a shake and reiterate they're playing for Manchester United and need to be reflective of that
 
kopviolator said:
If it is proven that he’s the leak source then I don’t think there is a way back
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Without question that would be the case. But the leaks happened long before Garnacho's introduction to the first team, and even I'm a nobody -- not an ITK -- it's my suspicion that Rashford has been the source of the leaks all these years. But only a suspicion as I have no proof of anything.
 
If it was him leaking the team then I think the message is that he has done that for the last time if he wants to play.

Outside of that if it's just a little message to improve certain things and a sign that he isn't some talisman then he just needs to get his head down in training and play a bit less selfishly.

Still a good chance to move past this and develop into a good player for us.
 
Cathy Ferguson said:
He should read up on Morrison and really consider what is at stake here.
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Absolutely! And thousands of other talented young players who pissed away their potential due to hubris.

I think if Garna is smart enough to keep his head down and work himself back into the team, he will be a success. Problem is, he just doesn’t strike me as smart or having strong mentality. His refusal to celebrate after scoring a worldie against someone (Leicester?) because someone was being mean to him online really highlighted how fragile this kid really is.
 
He's been overplayed the last couple of years out of desperation. We've not really developed him well.

Not sure where he fits into a RA formation, I don't see him having the defensive strength to be a wing back, and he's not a number 10. Great talent, but if he doesn't fit in the system, maybe we sell while we can get a good fee?
 
Don't think a player like Garnacho can hold the club to random. There are question marks on his capabilities and consistency.
While also adding the fact, he doesn't work well with Hojlund, his head is always done. He doesn't offer near what Amad does.

If a club came in with an offer you couldn't turn down, I'd consider but have a replacement figured out who fits the role.
 
foolsgold said:
He's been overplayed the last couple of years out of desperation. We've not really developed him well.

Not sure where he fits into a RA formation, I don't see him having the defensive strength to be a wing back, and he's not a number 10. Great talent, but if he doesn't fit in the system, maybe we sell while we can get a good fee?
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I agree. Rashford is difficult to sell but Garnacho will be easier and should generate at least 50-60m.
 
I am not sure Garnacho is as talented as people seem to think he is. And this 50-60 milion, I really don't think he can fetch as much if buying clubs believe he is the leak. Because leaking info = attitude problem = price drops.

I am not sure what big club that can splurge 50 milion for talented player will want him if they consider him a potential problem in dressing room. Maybe Saudi Arabia, but I don't see him going that way.
 
Remember RVP mentioning that Adnan Januzaj was one of the most exciting talents he had seen. Look where he ended up. The point is that all the talent in the world does not matter, if your head is not in the right place. Throwing tantrums, being reckless on social media and being shockingly selfish on the pitch, are things one could attribute to age. But it does not bode well for him if he continues like this. Can't see him being a world beater like some of the posters here do.
 
The kid is 20 years old and people are talking like it’s over for him. Lot of assumptions about him being this or that when Amorim said it wasn’t behavior related.
 
Shark said:
Come on, it's an offense, but hardly anything he can't come back from.
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Its undermining the manager and the team is what it is. You cant accept it and the whole squad has to know that. Its not being late or cussing at a team mate. He’s young so yeah, he might get away with it once. But discipline is needed and if one gets a slap on the wrist then others won’t care too much either.
 
He has an ego, but he’s not a top player (yet) so he needs a manager to keep him in check.

If he sulks like a brat, then it won’t end well, so I just hope he’s bright enough to choose the right path.

But as a side note, I do struggle to see how he fits into Amorim’s team tbh.
 
RuudTom83 said:
But as a side note, I do struggle to see how he fits into Amorim’s team tbh.
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I think the idea of him at wing back in this system is quite exciting. Firstly I think it takes away the option of just purely focusing on getting the ball and cutting inside trying to shoot.

It will force him to use more parts of his game than we have seen lately and I also think he is far better at taking players on from a bit deeper than he is around the box.

As far as the defensive side, he has always been pretty game and I think in this system there isn't a huge pressure for the wing back to be a great defender. He also has the physical stamina to play the role.

It really isn't working out for Dalot on that left side so I'd like to see it tried at least.
 
I don’t see why people think he doesn’t fit into Amorim’s system. He’s a very good fit for the LAM role imo. Amorim likes his LAM/RAM to be flexible. Stretching the pitch when they need to, making runs in behind the defence, coming in centrally to link up. Garna is very good at finding space and making runs in behind, better than Amad really. Which is why so many chances fall to him.

What he does need to do is to moderate his individualism a bit, by taking fewer hopeless shots on, looking to recycle the ball more and provide more for his teammates. He’s a young’un if he puts his ego aside and gets his head down and works, he could shine in this system. Especially if he gets a good LWB to back him up.

He has no real competition atm, Rashford is shite and Mount is always injured.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
I think the idea of him at wing back in this system is quite exciting. Firstly I think it takes away the option of just purely focusing on getting the ball and cutting inside trying to shoot.

It will force him to use more parts of his game than we have seen lately and I also think he is far better at taking players on from a bit deeper than he is around the box.

As far as the defensive side, he has always been pretty game and I think in this system there isn't a huge pressure for the wing back to be a great defender. He also has the physical stamina to play the role.

It really isn't working out for Dalot on that left side so I'd like to see it tried at least.
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Personally, I don't like the wing back idea for two reasons. I don't trust him in possession in deeper areas and his defensive awareness isn't great. Oh, his passsing is also shoddy.
The question is, which role is he likely to adapt to quicker, the 10 role or the wingback?
 
FrankWhite said:
Personally, I don't like the wing back idea for two reasons. I don't trust him in possession in deeper areas and his defensive awareness isn't great. Oh, his passsing is also shoddy.
The question is, which role is he likely to adapt to quicker, the 10 role or the wingback?
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I weirdly trust his passing and ability on the ball more the further away from goal he plays. I think he's a better player when the idea of scoring isn't in his head constantly.

I feel like I've seen a lot of neat little passing moments on tight spaces near the half way line.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
I weirdly trust his passing and ability on the ball more the further away from goal he plays. I think he's a better player when the idea of scoring isn't in his head constantly.

I feel like I've seen a lot of neat little passing moments on tight spaces near the half way line.
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I will pay more attention to this because it may just be bias on my part but I seem to remember us conceding alot of chances because of him losing the ball close to our goal. Loose touches, bad passes or just getting overpowered.

Unlike @MadMike , I'm not sold on him as a LAM but I do think it's probably his best bet. one of the reason that side of the field is less productive, is the lack of a true outside option e.g. a left footed LWB. Dalot has his qualities but getting a true outside threat on the left that the opposition has to respect will make a huge difference for Garnacho and Hojlund.
 
FrankWhite said:
I will pay more attention to this because it may just be bias on my part but I seem to remember us conceding alot of chances because of him losing the ball close to our goal. Loose touches, bad passes or just getting overpowered.

Unlike @MadMike , I'm not sold on him as a LAM but I do think it's probably his best bet. one of the reason that side of the field is less productive, is the lack of a true outside option e.g. a left footed LWB. Dalot has his qualities but getting a true outside threat on the left that the opposition has to respect will make a huge difference for Garnacho and Hojlund.
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Speaking of which, I’m surprised we still haven’t seen Antony be given a chance at LWB for that very reason. He’s always quite committed, keeps the ball well, comes back to defend. Being a LWB might give him a new lease of life. It’s essentially a LM role.

There was even a talk during the ETH days about him making becoming a LB but he was always going to be a bit too weak for that. But LWB he might have a chance.
 
LordSpud said:
I reckon the club see the most value in him to sell this summer. We're not going to get a lot for Rashford and so this is the cash cow that will feed our summer spending.

He is the sacrificial lamb for Amorim and no-one saw it coming.
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I predicted this if you look through earlier posts, he simply doesn’t suit any 3 at the back system because he needs to play as the wide player left or right in a 3 man striker system, he’s not a number 10 or a wing back, he simply doesn’t have the in game IQ, Rashford could be adapted but his whole solemn demeanour is just all wrong, he needs to move away for his own sake too!

Strangely enough players like Amad, , Maguire, Anthony, Mount, Mainoo really do suit his system, Antony is made to play wing back as he’s never been an inverted right winger, but he could be very good at right or left wing back. Mazraoui at RCB, Anthony at RWB and Amad at R10 could really cook down our right side.

We will be looking to sign two new players in the summer in attacking positions and Rashford and Garnaucho will be the sacrificial lambs unless they hit elite form very quickly.
 
Dont know why so many of us think he should be a wingback... he can play the AM/SS role if he is bothered. One with a license to carry the ball forward or stretch the play. The old Griezmann kind of role.

The thing is his ego keeps siuing on him. He probably thinks he should be on the wing ala Ronaldo 2008 and cant imagine any other role.. but the game has moved on.. everything is tactical now.
 
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