100% agree with this. The wage structure should be based on player value, quality and contribution to the squad. If De Ligt were to come in, he’d be automatic first choice and arguably the best CB in the club, so why shouldn’t he be paid appropriately for that?
I agree with that 2nd paragraph.
Haha poor Valentijn.
I see..
Haha poor Valentijn.
Highlights of the season include :
- not traveling to Madrid because Ajax would lose anyway
- claiming that Moura never scores so it wasnt a problem if Ajax let him get to the goalkeeper.
If Valentijn Driessen says de Ligt wont sign for Manchester United you can start ordering your de Ligt 5 United shirt.
Is there no quality control for thread commenters?
Useless news from catradio. We are all know that Ajax isn’t making this as bid war. Any reasonable offer around £60m-£70m would be accepted by Ajax. It’s always been up to the player or cough cough (agent).
You're right in that he'll likely want a wage increase at some point but realistically he's the best defender on the market. I don't mind paying big money to a genuine marquee player like de ligt or pogba. It's the inability to negotiate sensible deals with players who aren't at that level that's the problem.
Problem is De Ligt could be easily over hyped. He is 19! What has he really done to prove he can cut it at the highest level week in week out. Maybe he doesn't need to as still time to develop, but it's crazy to assume he is a sure thing which £350k a week suggests.
Again, I definitely share the view that our wage structure turmoil is mainly down to rewarding huge contracts to mediocre players. However, a 19 year old player who has only ever played in the Netherlands is not the same as Messi, Suarez, Ronaldo, etc. proven world class players. If he were to sign a 350K deal it would be insane, in my humble opinion.
We'll if the mods gave you a warning then it seems likely they agreed with him. If you open a thread saying 'we didn't get de ligt' when he hasn't even moved yet then thats a factually incorrect premise and the mods would remove the thread and give you a warning. You'll know next time not to do it. I got a warning myself once for making an inappropriate remark about Chris Sutton's intelligence. If the forum didn't have mods enforcing rules then the quality would plummit and nobody would want to use it any more. If making a post that's just inane but not offensive got you a warning then we'd all be banned by now. Bad threads clutter up the site though, that's more of a problem. If the guy you think reported you pissed you off with comments you didn't like then you have the option to block him of course, that's your own choice.
Lots of good points. I'm just pissed because all I wanted was a thread for ongoing discussion as a temperature gauge for how people feel about the transfer window as it progresses, something we don't currently have as an overview and yet this got shot down. Ok maybe I added some banter into that, but this isn't a journal! Let's at least allow some humour among a topic that has legs over the course of a summer.
I disagree with that. I think we've seen enough of him to know that he's at least a top quality player. The range of error for me is basically the difference between peak vertonghen at the low end and Hummel's at the upper. But either of those players would massively improve us anyway. If he's going to be easily our best defender then he should be on big wages. Real Madrid and Barcelona don't seem to suffer from this problem. If their players demand elite wages they don't deserve they don't cave in and give it to them. They just let them leave.
A lot of players show massive promise and then it doesn't work out, maybe a loss of focus, a change of scenery, extra work load in training/ games. Point is it doesn't always work out. £200k I wouldn't baulk at. That is top level talent offering. £350k is the best in the world levels.
If he goes to Barcelona we'll not get another chance to sign him so it is what it is. You could make the same arguments for neymar when he was playing in the Brazilian league.
SpoonFex said Barca are the only other team in for him that we know of. Doesn't mean there aren't other teams interested.
Just don't say stuff and not follow up on it.
True. But I'm holding firm that the kid wants United. The storm from Barca has been pathetic. Very much stinks of the kind of face saving talk those clubs need to keep their state sponsored presidents in office. If there's one image that sums them up for me it's Busquets rolling on the floor , peeking out. And I love the city itself hah
But you won't get him for 200k because we're competing against Barcelona. If the offer isn't majorly convincing we'll definitely miss out and then we'll be looking at another Bailly or rojo style punt. We already got turned down for koulibaly for 95m and skriniar doesn't seem to want to move. Varane won't move. There aren't any that many top drawer defenders on the market.
Catalan media are drugs. They are the one injecting us everyday.
But all those teams have experienced managers which for me is the biggest difference...
We've had two of the most experienced and successful managers of the last half a century coaching us in the last few years. When you have a chef executive who will ignore two champions league winning managers when it comes to what this squad needs to compete, the manager is the least of our worries when it comes to replacing those who have been sold.
He didn’t travel to Madrid, what the hellHaha poor Valentijn.
Highlights of the season include :
- not traveling to Madrid because Ajax would lose anyway
- claiming that Moura never scores so it wasnt a problem if Ajax let him get to the goalkeeper.
If Valentijn Driessen says de Ligt wont sign for Manchester United you can start ordering your de Ligt 5 United shirt.
I totally want Woody out but he's a Glazers puppet so can't see it ever happening....my post was more to do with how Ole will do against Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea for a top 4 finish as there managers have much more experience then Ole which might be a to bigger hurdle next season hoping for top 4?
A Spanish TV station reporting a conversation between an English and Dutch club. OK I'll bite..
Reaching a CL final is a very good achievement and they are a very good team now, but nowhere close to Barca or Madrid, who have actually won things. If getting to a semi or final is all it takes then thatst a different criterka. Also, Pool sacrificed their domestic cup competition two years running and that is never the sign of a brilliant team.
To be fair, Pool didn't "sacrifice" their League campaign this season. The "slipped" behind City just by 1 point. That fateful draw with a certain team at Old Trafford turned out to be the final nail in their Title hope. Food for thoughts!
We always do 5+1
C’mon. Please. I need this.
Were Guardiola, Zidane and Arrigo Sacchi super experienced?
How can you be so sure?
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