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He shouldn't be given another year imo.

I want a fast mobile striker up front, it makes most sense with the style of our football.

None of this is based on todays game btw.
 
Turns out Zlatan probably wouldnt fancy 'a cold Tuesday night at Stoke'
 
YouOnlyLiveTwice said:
He shouldn't be given another year imo.

I want a fast mobile striker up front, it makes most sense with the style of our football.

None of this is based on todays game btw.
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It was a bit weird though. Putting 2 slow strikers up front to play a counter attacking football.

People think playing rooney in this form is shocking. Singing zlatan and playing him with rooney in this style is almost up there.
 
I thought he had a decent cameo. Played some good passes through for Fellaini and Rooney.

But I wouldn't extend his contract past this season.
 
He may have missed a few chance in recent games but that's not the end of the world. He can hardly be blamed for not carrying everyone else here either, he's a striker and needs the rest of the team to step up.
 
The United said:
It was a bit weird though. Putting 2 slow strikers up front to play a counter attacking football.

People think playing rooney in this form is shocking. Singing zlatan and playing him with rooney in this style is almost up there.
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I questioned the decision to sign him before we got him. Couldn't see him fit Mourinho's style, a player like Icardi would have made more sense.

He is worth the gamble though on a one year contract. You can't fault his goal stats, i just think we would play as a better team with a different type of striker.
 
Clearly didn't want to be out there, poor attitude from him.

I still think he's been ok so far, but he needs a good game on Saturday.
 
Can't believe people are actually doubting him. He's our only geniune world class player ffs... If we played actual creative players like Mkhitaryan and Mata behind him, he would be scoring way more goals.
 
I would play him as part of a front three with Rashford/Mkhi and Martial. And I mean a three in a the mode where he comes deep for the ball and has Rashford and Martial running off him (kinda like how Zlatan tried to set up Fellaini today).
 
2cents said:
Goals apart he's been extremely underwhelming. Reminds me of RVP in his last aeason here.
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This.

His overall game has been very poor and it's just the goals that have been masking it. The way time and again Ibra fails to make a simple 2 yard pass is as bad as Rooney (but that doesn't mean Rooney should be playing by the way). He also wasted some easy chances.

Anyway, I didn't expect much from him in terms of goal return where I said I expect around 12 league goals and 15+ overall. So can't complain much.
 
ReDDHDevilS said:
This.

His overall game has been very poor and it's just the goals that have been masking it. The way time and again Ibra fails to make a simple 2 yard pass is as bad as Rooney (but that doesn't mean Rooney should be playing by the way). He also wasted some easy chances.

Anyway, I didn't expect much from him in terms of goal return where I said I expect around 12 league goals and 15+ overall. So can't complain much.
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I think he'll get 20+ easily.
 
ReDDHDevilS said:
This.

His overall game has been very poor and it's just the goals that have been masking it. The way time and again Ibra fails to make a simple 2 yard pass is as bad as Rooney (but that doesn't mean Rooney should be playing by the way). He also wasted some easy chances.

Anyway, I didn't expect much from him in terms of goal return where I said I expect around 12 league goals and 15+ overall. So can't complain much.
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This feels harsh. Yes, he will drift in and out of games, but we all expected as much.

But it's as clear as day when a footballer is cleverer in his use of the ball than those around him. Ibrahimovic is one such player. Unlike others (namely Rooney) I have complete confidence in Ibrahimovic when it comes to his decision making and picking the right pass.

He needs runners beyond him that's for sure. But when he drops deep and collects the ball, his next pass has far more often than not, been the right one.
 
Jacko21 said:
This feels harsh. Yes, he will drift in and out of games, but we all expected as much.

But it's as clear as day when a footballer is cleverer in his use of the ball than those around him. Ibrahimovic is one such player. Unlike others (namely Rooney) I have complete confidence in Ibrahimovic when it comes to his decision making and picking the right pass.

He needs runners beyond him that's for sure. But when he drops deep and collects the ball, his next pass has far more often than not, been the right one.
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Ibrahimovic is mentally years ahead of Rooney. Rooney is a "street footballer" and thats all he's ever known. In his prime, he had a cracking long shot on him. That was his strongest attribute in my opinion... He would have never succeeded abroad.

Zlatan is one of the greats. He will go down as a legend of the game. Rooney might go down as an England legend, but that doesn't count for much on the grand scheme of things. Zlatan will be remembered as one of the best strikers of his generation. There's not many I'd rank above him in recent years.
 
Jaybomb said:
Ibrahimovic is mentally years ahead of Rooney. Rooney is a "street footballer" and thats all he's ever known. In his prime, he had a cracking long shot on him. That was his strongest attribute in my opinion... He would have never succeeded abroad.

Zlatan is one of the greats. He will go down as a legend of the game. Rooney might go down as an England legend, but that doesn't count for much on the grand scheme of things. Zlatan will be remembered as one of the best strikers of his generation. There's not many I'd rank above him in recent years.
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Come off it. That's nonsense. They've just had different career trajectories. The first act of Rooneys career was of the highest quality. Ibra has been the opposite, it's the second half of his career that's cemented his rep.

At 23 Rooney had been at United for four years playing in the worlds best league. At the same age Ibra was still in Holland.
 
Jacko21 said:
This feels harsh. Yes, he will drift in and out of games, but we all expected as much.

But it's as clear as day when a footballer is cleverer in his use of the ball than those around him. Ibrahimovic is one such player. Unlike others (namely Rooney) I have complete confidence in Ibrahimovic when it comes to his decision making and picking the right pass.

He needs runners beyond him that's for sure. But when he drops deep and collects the ball, his next pass has far more often than not, been the right one.
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He's, no question about it. He's played some lovely balls to other players. He also has way better first touch than Rooney.

But my gripe is about his link-up play (and his hold-up play but that I blame on our tactics where he's most of the times left totally isolated) which has been very poor. I said some days back I feel that's because of his carelessness than his ability even though I initially thought that's purely down to lack of match sharpness. But this is happening in every game where as I said earlier he fails to make simple passes.

I'm not complaining as I didn't expect much if I'm being honest. And I'd be very happy if the can improve that aspect of his game in the coming weeks.
 
Dobbs said:
Come off it. That's nonsense. They've just had different career trajectories. The first act of Rooneys career was of the highest quality. Ibra has been the opposite, it's the second half of his career that's cemented his rep.

At 23 Rooney had been at United for four years playing in the worlds best league. At the same age Ibra was still in Holland.
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That says every player 23 and under who was playing in "the world's best league" while Ibra was in Holland was... what?

Not sure what you're really insinuating.

Rooney used to have a fight and explosiveness about him. He was never a technically gifted footballer. He's a typical "English" style player. Never world class.
 
We'd do well to not have either of him or Rooney near our starting lineup next season. He can be excused when he gets goals but when he's not doing that, he's pretty useless.
 
wr8_utd said:
We'd do well to not have either of him or Rooney near our starting lineup next season. He can be excused when he gets goals but when he's not doing that, he's pretty useless.
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Yup, should be Ibrahimovic, because Rooney is nowhere near him. He also gets assists and his link up will improve, when we improve as a whole offensively.
 
Jaybomb said:
Ibrahimovic is mentally years ahead of Rooney. Rooney is a "street footballer" and thats all he's ever known. In his prime, he had a cracking long shot on him. That was his strongest attribute in my opinion... He would have never succeeded abroad.

Zlatan is one of the greats. He will go down as a legend of the game. Rooney might go down as an England legend, but that doesn't count for much on the grand scheme of things. Zlatan will be remembered as one of the best strikers of his generation. There's not many I'd rank above him in recent years.
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If you honestly think Wayne Rooney won't go down as one of the best strikers of his generation you're deluded.
 
Such moaning. Name one attacking player that has been better than him so far. Oh, there is none? When the others start playing better, so will Zlatan.
 
It's the amazing the number of times he loses the ball. Never seen that from a supposedly top striker.

Still got a killer shot and a mean header on him. Wish he wasn't that static.
 
Have no worries about him to come good, he needs movement around him, we knew that before he came and Jose plays Rooney behind him and Fellaini, Pogba combo in midfield, let's play Herrera there to move the ball quicker, Zlatan likes to play one two and can do it, all team in fact will benefit from Herrera and dropping Rooney of course.. you can see he's too isolated there, he wants to lay off the ball but he has no one to, he can hold on to ball very well and bring other players into play, just need that bit of work around him, he's like better Berbatov in that sense..

I am sure he will score against leicester if we drop certain players..
 
When he's not putting the ball into the goal, is he actually capable of contributing to an attack without completely fecking it up? It's actually quite astonishing how bad his hold up and link up play has beeen so far.

It makes it near on impossible for us to even build attacks as a team at times, which is quite a big problem. Doubly so when Rooney's also pratting about like a useless tart.

It's still early days to be fair but he's another where it just has to get better, regrdless of who he has playing around him...and there's too many of our players in that category so far this season. You can barely name half a team of players who wouldn't be.
 
well, if nothing else, seeing him and rashford come out together yesterday put a smile on my face, it was like something out of karate kid, mr. miyagi and his young protege
 
jojose said:
Im leaving this place. This thread is fecking pathetic
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Yep, I have to agree. He's an amazing striker with killer instinct, but because he doesn't get many chances, mainly the fault of the other attacking players, he will get frustrated and lose some concentration. Him and Rashford seem to get each other, so I hope they get more playing time together.
 
He has performed dismally and I think he will struggle to adapt especially when games start to come think and fast in Dec/Jan. For all the stick Rooney is getting he has actually done much better than Ibra (goals aside) and thats how he has been dismal. Our slow build ups dont help him. Fells like there isnt much difference between LvG and Mourinho

Rashford is the answer
 
Bruno8 said:
He has performed dismally and I think he will struggle to adapt especially when games start to come think and fast in Dec/Jan. For all the stick Rooney is getting he has actually done much better than Ibra (goals aside) and thats how he has been dismal. Our slow build ups dont help him. Fells like there isnt much difference between LvG and Mourinho

Rashford is the answer
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This is just mental. Go and have a cold shower.
 
Bruno8 said:
He has performed dismally and I think he will struggle to adapt especially when games start to come think and fast in Dec/Jan. For all the stick Rooney is getting he has actually done much better than Ibra (goals aside) and thats how he has been dismal. Our slow build ups dont help him. Fells like there isnt much difference between LvG and Mourinho

Rashford is the answer
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This thread in a nutshell. Dismally? Worse than Rooney?

No, not really.
 
EPL:

- Rooney: 8 goals in 28 games last season
- Zlatan: 4 goals in 5 games this season

MUFC scored 6 goals in 5 games so Zlatan scored 67% of the goals.

Zlatan is certainly not the main issue.
 
Bruno8 said:
He has performed dismally and I think he will struggle to adapt especially when games start to come think and fast in Dec/Jan. For all the stick Rooney is getting he has actually done much better than Ibra (goals aside) and thats how he has been dismal. Our slow build ups dont help him. Fells like there isnt much difference between LvG and Mourinho

Rashford is the answer
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Football is about opinions and everybody is entitled to one. Except complete moronic idiots.
 
SirAF said:
"goals aside" :lol: That's what football is about!
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Apart from the fact he's scored all of our goals, his old up play has been excellent (even at Watford), his run against Watford made the goal, his presence gives others time, the fact he can control a football, he's a leader who its clear people look up to, apart from all of that, he's been just like Rooney.

I know a high percentage don't go to the game but the more I read on here I am starting to thing the majority don't even watch on TV. This thread wants closing and the simpleton that thinks Rooney has been better than Zlatan should be sent back to the Newbies.

In my humble opinion. Ban me if you want but I quite honestly have never read so much sh1t in one thread than this
 
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