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I agree with almost everything you say here. Zlatans misses have been a problem but the big problem is no one else contributing. The discussion has been about the shots per goal and chances created stats MadMike posted. Neither him nor you have provided any analasys to show that it really backs up the opinion that Ibra and Pogba are the main culprits. Have you considered that maybe the others aren't taking enough shots or getting themselves in a position to score? You also can't use a per minute stat to compare these two to the much inferior players around them. There's a reason why they're consistent starters and the other attackers aren't. It's like comparing Schweinsteigers one game to Pogba and saying look he has a one goal per game ratio, he must be much more effective than Pogba.
We don't need to play like that, and I don't think we will under Mourinho. Me myself would much prefer a player in Zlatans mold to replace him. I think he will be looking to build around Ibra in the summer and then replace him like for like when he leaves.
Setting up the excuses already.
No, I expect goals from whoever will play instead of him. Simple really. Also notion that our gameplan is set to accommodate him isn't really true.
I think this has been posted like 17 times.
I think Pogba will improve, at least I believe he will improve his scoring. His creativity is immense and he and Ibra are no doubt the most important players in this team. I think only Pogba, Zlatan and Mikhi are safe to secure a place in the eleven next year excluding defenders.
This is also interesting:
Why even bother with the stats mate? Anyone sensible knows they can be turned and twisted to suit ones argument. Like I said, Zlatan missing alot of chances is a problem, but the bigger problem is no one else contributing. And that's exactly what Mourinho will try to rectify in the summer.
Totally agree, but since some are trying to make him the "culprit" it's good to show that that there's more than meets the eye.
Cudos to you for applying yourself to dig up the stats but shots/conversion rate stats have been posted many times and discussed extensively. The problem is, people always interprete them in a way to suit their argument and we just go round and round. This happens after every bad game he has.
Mourinho obviously rates Ibrahimovic highly or else he wouldn't have said this last week:
So he'll improve other positions before he'll even think about replacing Ibra. People also forget that there aren't many strikers of the Ibra type (which Mourinho likes) so he won't replace him even if he wanted to at the moment.
That's how it usually looks for top players, they take a lot of shots. And the more shots you take it becomes more difficult to keep a good conversion rate, since every shot you take has a much lower chance of going in than not.
Yeah, I know. Do they really think any player in the world can score i.e. 80 goals per season, which is basically what they want Ibra to do because he takes a lot of shots?
I don't understand some people's reasoning either, it's really is strange.
This is only big chances. I believe its only one on one and open goals that are considered as big chances.
sigh.. no surprise with the news. hopefully other players can step up and replace Zlatan to score goals in those three matches.
I think you misspelled, underrated is what you mean...
It's blatantly going to be Rooney who will start up front instead of Ibra, sadly.
The problem with this is that people interprete the stats in different ways. The stats in question can mean everything in between Zlatan missing so many chances is our main problem to Zlatan is the only one getting in position to get these chances while the others aren't, people either use the stats to rationalise their agenda or simply misinterprete them.
I don't see anything wrong with it, it would be the most sensible decision. We need some leadership and direction in Ibras absence and Rooney is the man for that.
I do see a lot wrong with it. People have been complaining about Ibra coming deep at times etc, and not busting his gut to get into the box (and even still being clear and away our top scorer). So remember, we'll now have Rooney doing that, with less ability to make things happen when he gets on the ball, and even less in terms of output with regard to goals.
I have no idea who he will start really, it could be Rashford as well since he replaced Ibra vs Arsenal I think. I'm not saying Rooney is better than the other options but like I said, we need the leadership and in my personal opinion, he's not any worse than Martial or Rashford form wise. I actually thought he had a great game vs Bournemouth.
I didn't actually see the Bournemouth game so can't comment on that. If so .. I guess that's good. I would personally love to see Rooney find his form again and prove us all wrong - he's given so much to the club in his time. I just don't see it. Hence why I'd like to see Rashford in there, he's the future, he needs the game time.
