Yeah, I'm sure you could find quotes to illustrate the inverse of what it currently does. The problem is that it perfectly sums up how Mourinho presents himself in the eyes of a lot of fans.
With Jose still in charge - I am NOT looking forward to next season
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The owners and Woody were too stupid when they offered a new contract to Mourinho. I think next season is going to be a long season of dire football unfortunately .
Jose is so negative and moans so much, it’s hard to feel any excitement.
It’s kinda weird, but what would make me excited at this point is Jose leaving the club.
It’s kinda weird, but what would make me excited at this point is Jose leaving the club.
The club would have been in worse shape without that contract.
The rumours would have clouded our season and it would have been a sure sign, we fiddid trust him.
The state of his last sentence though. Was it really part of the rant above it?
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Listening to TS now and people are calling in wanting Jose out. Asked for alternatives it's Dyche and Howe. What could go wrong...
I just don't understand why he needs to throw the young players under the bus like that. If they're not his players, what are they doing in this US tour ? Such a needless thing to say in public. He also never recognizes his mistakes in public as easily as for justifying himself by implicating things out of his control
I seriously wouldn't mind Sean Dyche, I rate the guy. Obviously not Eddie Howe though.
Sooner have McKenna than Dyche ffs.
So you'd take Mourinho getting sacked and Dyche getting hired?
Wouldn't mind seeing Zidane on our bench.
It was a different rant. He was asked why Alexis looked so miserable.
Cheers.
What the last 5 years has taught me is we need to be more open minded when it comes to managers.
Just to throw it out there, we are oit of title race before X-mas for two seasons in a row. We did feck all in CL and got knocked out by a clear underdog. We also bottled it spectacularly in an FA cup final against a pretty disjointed team. We are second biggest spenders in the league and
Hundred times this.
I don't know for sure, but I would very seriously consider it if results start off bad in the league (and by the looks of things that is not out of the realm of podsibilities with the atmosphere of the club right now).
It's taught me that we have a board that I have little faith in. I think it's extremely open minded to hire Moyes and van Gaal. It's like there was no criteria.
Thanks for the reply. I wonder how many feel the same, not with Dyche in particular, but that they have an idea of someone specific who could come in and they'd believe would get our squad to perform much better than Mourinho.
We all know that he says stupid, heat-of-the-moment things and in the main have got used to it, but his comments on the youth players can be seen as nothing but destructive. You just know the Youth Coaches work so hard building up their confidence, encouraging them etc, since self-belief is so important for any players confidence and development which gives some them sort of chance of success at whatever level they end up in. Mourinho undid so much work with a couple of sentences.
It's like these guys haven't learnt from the Moyes fiasco.
I really am baffled. The man has been at this game for a long time and this is preseason, if there ever was a time not to moan and show a bit of enthusiasm regarding the new upcoming season, it's now. Heat of the moment comment after a terrible result/match/performance I can definitely understand but after a preseason game ? Seriously wtf is all about
I was talking more from a fans point of view. We turn our noses up at everyone who hasn't had a history of winning trophies.
As far as our board go I have absolutely no confidence in them. Off the pitch we're a commercial juggernaut. On the pitch we're rotten.
Mourinho fans, tell me, what is it about us that you actually enjoy?
We play the shittest football of any big club in the world, we finished 20 points of top spot, got KO'd of the Champions League by a mid table Spanish team & we have a manager who consistently throws his players under the bus after a loss while never accepting responsibility. He has ZERO long term plan because he knows he'll be gone soon & doesn't have to give a feck.
This cnut is NOT a Manchester United manager & he is fecking ruining our club. feck off.
We play the shittest football of any big club in the world, we finished 20 points of top spot, got KO'd of the Champions League by a mid table Spanish team & we have a manager who consistently throws his players under the bus after a loss while never accepting responsibility. He has ZERO long term plan because he knows he'll be gone soon & doesn't have to give a feck.
This cnut is NOT a Manchester United manager & he is fecking ruining our club. feck off.
At least we'd play some half decent football under Eddie Howe. Nothing at all like Moyes either. Guarantee if he was called Eduardo Howedinho you wouldn't mind having a look at him. Not saying I want him right now, but he's a pretty good manager & nothing like the Sam, Moyes, Pardew brigade just because he's british.
Jose is being a bit silly as of now, picking fights and throwing tantrums - not sure what he is playing at.
Probably wants to take the easy way out and get sacked with another big pay off.
Doesn't matter. We still finished second despite dropping 15-17 sure fire points against poor sides.
City did feck all in the CL too. It's a matter of perspective. Yours just seem to be overly pessimistic and not caring about swapping entire XI for the sake of winning.
Your FA Cup final argument is invalid too. We reached the final, which is better than all other teams in England. Form goes out the window in finals as well.
I'll 'knee-jerk' again here. The guy is finished as a top coach. He should have been sacked at the end of last season and we should have went for Sarri. He is a bloody dinosaur tactically and has rotten man-management skills. Watch how quickly Chelsea turn into a great footballing tea with a proper coach, just the same as City, Liverpool and Spurs did. The board has allowed us to lose our identity as a club with 3 awful managers in a row. We need to find an ambitious young attacking coach with modern ideas, a good director of football and go from there.
Don't really want him here but if possible Zidane should be sounded out immediately. At worst we better highlight an attacking coach ASAP and prepare to bring them in as soon as the shit hits the fan. I've seen this club win enough trophies to last a lifetime. The quality of the football matters more to me and I can honestly say I no longer look forward to seeing us, especially when a player like Pereira who has been our standout preseason performer will be marginalised as soon as Fellaini and co return.
Don't really want him here but if possible Zidane should be sounded out immediately. At worst we better highlight an attacking coach ASAP and prepare to bring them in as soon as the shit hits the fan. I've seen this club win enough trophies to last a lifetime. The quality of the football matters more to me and I can honestly say I no longer look forward to seeing us, especially when a player like Pereira who has been our standout preseason performer will be marginalised as soon as Fellaini and co return.
Hope he leaves asap. He was never a good match for this club. Never supported, never loved. I would have fecked off much sooner but milking some decent money ain't bad either!
Fair enough. I agree with that to a certain extent (and of course on your views of the board). I wouldn't say it covers Howe or Dyche. I generally think British managers as well as players are massively overrated. Which is not to say that flavour of the month foreign managers aren't hyped up too. But with regards to Dyche and Howe there is nothing I see in their managerial careers that suggests to me that they'd make good United appointments. They've both done well with their clubs but they've not had any pressure whatsoever and they've constantly been underdogs. If they had somehow managed that whilst also building youthful sides or shown some particular tactical nous it would be a different story (like a Nagelsmann).
I'm fine with Jose picking fights when he's going to be judged on how he does vs the likes of Madrid/City etc who have far better squads. In a million years you wouldn't see Barca romp the league by double digits and Madrid sit on the hands during the summer, any president who did that would be sacked.
Completely agree with this. We were desperate when we signed him but he's style of football isn't fit for any top club let alone United.
Seriously? You want one of the most successful managers ever to leave, so we can hire a manager who has won nothing? Yeah, and that worked the last time we tried it didn't it.
You have to be daft if you think Man Utd should be looking to hire managers who show promise. We need to be hiring the best - proven winners. And if we sack Jose who is available of a similar caliber to replace him (multiple league winner in multiple counties)? And I'm talking about proven winners, Pochettino has won feck all in 9 years as a manager, 4 of which have been at Spurs.
I also find it bizarre that people bang on about Klopp. Jose has been more successful at Utd then Klopp has been at Liverpool, yet some 'fans' on here would rather be less successful with more entertaining football? Stupid.
Jose wanted the 'kid from Portugal'. Calling Fred Brazil's cheerleader is a bit childish don't you think? - nonetheless he wanted him too.
The board have given plenty of funds over his 3 summers already. Its time Jose starts showing that he can coach said talent and our youth.
Paying 60m+ on Toby and Willian when both are 29 isn't as attractive to the club as it is for Jose. It's understandable and other targets should be looked at if they won't pay that. I'd like those 2 players for the record but I also understand the clubs reservations.
That's why it's so disappointing. Pre-season is the only chance some of these players have to so what they can do. We have players on extended breaks due to the World Cup and injuries ahead of the new season. He might have to rely on some of these players and yet he still talks down their ability and quality.
Your attitude reminds me of the way our club is being run. Outdated and boringly predictable
A serial winner was never a good match for Manchester United?
He can't. He hasn't get the best out of the players he inherited or signed. Probably why the club won't bow to his every demand. He has not shown he can coach and play football that is conducive to us actually looking like we can win a title.
There's picking fights and then there is throwing the youth team under a bus.
His comments were pathetic and not worthy of a Manchester United manager.
Just heard the same thing, and came to the same conclusion: how can anyone think Dyche is the solution to a more attractive style of football? The following show ( on now ), with the obligatory L/Pool lackey, this time in the guise of the Mirror hack, Darren Lewis, has announced another phone-in about getting rid of Mourinho, a mere 15mins after the last phone-in about binning the UTD manager!!
If nothing else we still are box-office for the tabloids, and the unfortunate money-shot follows anything our rather mardy coach may say unless its delivered with a comedic wink & toothy grin.
Well it wasn't for Real Madrid either. So what went wrong there? It also wasn't a match for his 'heritage' Club Chelsea. What went wrong there too?
At the end of the day he's a serial moaner; serial adopter of crap football; serial head of dressing room upset and a serial manager of not lasting more than 3 years.