As if Woodward and the owners have any idea what they're doing.
With Jose still in charge - I am NOT looking forward to next season
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The last line is so disrespectful to our young players. Alexis hasn't exactly set the world alight in a Utd shirt. Mourinho should look at his coaching methods before he criticises players. We have good young players who are still raw but have great potential.
I still cant believe those quotes ( fake one not included ) are real 
. I mean saw him doing some weird shit in his last Chelsea season but this is some next level stuff.
. I mean saw him doing some weird shit in his last Chelsea season but this is some next level stuff.His comments were fine. Most of them won't be in the squad and aren't United players. You can't throw them under the bus when no one has any expectations.
They were just brought in on loan for preseason?
Yeah, I'm listening to it with patronising amusement. I think it's also a reflection of absolutely nothing interesting happening in the transfer market despite being so near it being shut.
As I said before - he will go mid season leading to a temporary interim coach who is an ex player. A player who actually understands the club & is willing to grow in to the role whilst calling it his own.
That will be the second coming of United. We don't need to worry dyke or Howe (I don't mind Howe though) - however hiring ex players is becoming an almost instant level of success at club level & to some degree international level.
It's a new generation now.
That will be the second coming of United. We don't need to worry dyke or Howe (I don't mind Howe though) - however hiring ex players is becoming an almost instant level of success at club level & to some degree international level.
It's a new generation now.
They were used because most of the first team is injured or recovering from the world cup, how is this difficult to understand?
his latest comments are an utter digrace.
he can blame Woodward all he wants, but Mourinho is now a significant part of the problem imo
he can blame Woodward all he wants, but Mourinho is now a significant part of the problem imo
They are players contracted to Manchester United hence they are United players. How hard is that to understand?
His comments are standard Jose throwing everyone else under the bus to cover his own skin. There's nothing fine about that, he's a prick, but he always does that and we knew he would so we have to live with it now.
I doubt he will last the season if he's already at shit like that in pre season. Might even be gone quicker than at Chelsea at this rate.
Not our style. We stuck with LvG despite turd football and results.
Jose will get the entire season assuming he finishes in the Top 6.
Your comment makes absolutely no sense to me. Are you saying that no-one has any expectations of our youth team?
I didn't mean literally United players as in we don't own the rights to them, I meant United players in performances which is very obvious. If you're going to argue such semantic nonsense just don't respond to me.
Fred was actually Brazil's cheerleader. He's certainly not Brazil's first teamer isn't he? Regarding Dalot, I thought that Mou only want old farts. So how could Jose possibly want him?
The situation is pretty simple to me. United had been under investing for years and we won't cut it with just 4 signings a year. Now we are free to support the manager or just fire him as we always do when reality hits home. Irrespective who comes, we won't be able to win the title with makeshift wingers as full backs, a fat injury prone overrated left back and no talent on the right flank whatsoever.
I wish we'd be smart enough to get rid half way through the season. We waited until CL was mathematically gone with Moyes and Van Gaal got his full 2nd season despite by December we had passed a breaking point and it was obvious he was going to be sacked. We don't act like a big club and accept mediocrity so that's what we're going to see this season. Mourinho isn't going anywhere during the season. I just hope we wise up and sack him at the end hopefully. Or he walks at some point. But not a chance in hell its while the season is running, unfortunately.
If I'm being perfectly honest, I'd gladly finish 5th this year and miss out on top 4 if it meant he would be sacked and only sacked like that above another season like last one. Short term pain, long term gain. I dont think he'll be sacked as long as he makes top 4 so whatever it takes.
He says the game is meaningless which it is, other than a chance for American fans to see some premier league players.
I'm hoping Tuchel has a good season at PSG and we can buy him out of the only remaining year he has left and get him in to replace Mourinho at the end of the season
Does matter. We did feck all in the Prem. City walked it. We we lost FA cup final, Pool lost CL final. City with a major trophy, Chelsea with a trophy. If finishing second 19 points behind City helps you feel better, then you'd better take your hat off for Klopp who reached CL final eliminating City along the way. Zero perspective with Jose. He can stick his "2nd place and kiss goodbye to the league before Xmas" trophy up his arse. He failed miserably both in the league and CL. He even fecking bottled it against Chelsea. He is not winning anything big with us. His stint with us will be worse than Conte's with Chelsea, as for Pep he will tear Jose a new one this season too. Fecking Mou can get used to it, Utd fans should not.
Not that we're any great indicator of rationality, but the Caf seems to have turned.
Agreed there. Give McKenna a go. He's a young progressive manager and a fan of the club. Don't expect trophies and top 4 but at least he'll have the right intentions and we can help him with getting in some coaches/analysts to help.
He's there already just give it him and look for another manager for the next season depending on what happens.
As long as we're not relegated, we'll be fine.
You're a brave man. I tend to dip into TalkShite every now & then, and am constantly amazed how frequently, on any random timescale, they seem to be eviscerating some, or other, aspect of our club. When the season kicks off I give it a major swerve as noting good ever comes from the populist type of shit they peddle. ( Also plays havoc with your blood pressure whenever that fat Scouse dumpling, Mickey Quinn, takes to the airwaves.)
I know a few match going fans who aren't keen on him. They aren't calling for his head but they won't bat an eye if he was sacked tomorrow.
The reality is nobody would give two shits how we were playing if come the end of the season it meant lifting the Premier League or Champions League.
Manchester United are in the business of winning. Mourinho has done that better than most, ergo he fitted the bill when appointed.
Regarding our style of play and overall performances, what we're seeing now is not indicative of Mourinho's career as a whole, because if it were, he wouldn't have won anything like as many trophies. That's the bigger question to be asked - why is this squad struggling to produce the performances of that of Mourinho's Chelsea, Inter and Real teams? The aforementioned teams weren't anything like as ponderous, as uncertain or as incohesive as we currently look.
I am not looking forward to this coming season one bit. I am exhausted by Mourinho's constant moaning and negativity. As manager of the biggest club in the world he has a responsibility to the fans to at least look like hes enjoying the job. With his comments about missing his daughters graduation, you'd be forgiven for forgetting he was on about 300k a week! The man is unbelievable. Sick and tired of his glum face, his public berating of the players and the board. He has totally sapped the magic from our club of late. I was always a fan but to be honest I wouldn't lose any sleep if he walked or was sacked right this second. He is boring me and making the club look ridiculous. I knew he was trouble when I found out he still lives in a hotel. Hows that for commitment? The man is a farce.
All I did was say I rate Sean Dyche, take a deep breath and try to calm down.
Admin should probably shut down this thread. It's not even constructive anymore. It's just moaning, spreading negativity, hatred and discontent.
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Reality is that most of us would still be backing Jose right now if:
1. Performances were on a steady upward trajectory from when he first took the helm
2. He openly backed the squad moreso than he has and refrained from being so oprnly negative to some players
3. He showed he still has the tactical nouse to match it with the best
4. He promoted the right of youth (not mctominay, let's be honest here)
5. His transfer targets were more astute
He may have some kind of vision but I feel the vision he has will not get is to where we should be. It won't stop me from supporting him until the end but I feel this is the reality of the situation.
1. Performances were on a steady upward trajectory from when he first took the helm
2. He openly backed the squad moreso than he has and refrained from being so oprnly negative to some players
3. He showed he still has the tactical nouse to match it with the best
4. He promoted the right of youth (not mctominay, let's be honest here)
5. His transfer targets were more astute
He may have some kind of vision but I feel the vision he has will not get is to where we should be. It won't stop me from supporting him until the end but I feel this is the reality of the situation.
No! But guess what. We haven't... So it matters!
We are in-cohesive because he has no style of playe he builds character and as we have watched pretty much the same set of player adopt a Moyes to LVG style of play we are a group of lads who need coaching. You cannot just get all the best players in the league and try and bully your way to the title. If Pep wasn't in charge it probably would have worked and we would have won the league last season but the shortcomings would still exist.
Or you could just not read it if it ruins your day so much.
I'm pro Mourinho but don't think he should stay. He was never loved here by the majority of the fans. They want something else.
Personally I think United fans will realize the problem isn't José once he's gone. As long as you keep Woodward and so many bang average players you won't succeed.
Jose did close to a miracle by finishing 2nd and playing some very good football in the first half of the season. The rest was natural with the squad available. Key players lack the right personality and the ones with winners attitude are not good enough.
Sorry mate, but as manager of man utd there is more to the role than simply being able to win. The fella has sapped the magic from our club with his horrible moods and constant complaining. I can't remember the last time I was excited for a United match. OT is supposed to be a theatre of dreams, at the minute its more like a bloody cauldron of nightmares thanks to that man. Forget the CV for one second, managers personality is equally as important when you are a coach. Player management is as important as tactics and its evidently not working out is it.
Who hired you as snitch.
We can play shite football in the CL where winning the tie on that day alone is important. But in league games, the style of play should be watchable. If merely winning the league trophy was enough, we might as well just ask the supporters to turn up at the stadium during the trophy presentation and not bother to attend the 38 games.
Agreed on this. Jose's football is quite entertaining and watchable if not spectacular. The reason it isn't now is partly because Jose tried to adapt himself to the demands of "attacking football". The end result is an ugly mess which is somewhere midway between an intent to go forward and Jose's own conservative style. Having mediocre players in key positions hasn't helped either.
LVG was a serial winner too though wasn't he. It's no good having loads of PL and CL medals if they all came 10 years ago.
We finished 2nd, our best finish since Fergie left. Jose in many ways is doing his job, it's just dreadful to watch, but he gets results.
This time last season, it was clear where the signs of progression were. We’ve had that at every point of Jose’s tenure so far. Even when the performances or results weren’t ideal, it was clear we were progressing in the bigger picture.
Until now. We’ve failed to clear out the deadwood, and we’ve not added to the quality of the squad enough to guarantee challenging. We’ll be starting this season with Valencia and Young as wing backs (both 33), which is seriously unbelievable. Both should be back ups at most. We don’t know our first choice cb pairing and are totally lopsided in attack. Oh, and with Martial out of favour, our backup for Lukaku is nothing to write home about.
On top of it all, Jose seems like he’s trying to distance himself from the squad. Incapable of seeing any positives in playing youngsters, deflecting blame anyway he can, this is the least affection I’ve felt for the club in two decades of following. Sad state of affairs, and the season’s not started yet.
Hope I’m proved wrong and this post is used to shame me in the future, but I’m going to say it. Whatever United are, Jose isn’t it. I don’t want him sacked now, but it’s clear where this train is hurtling.
Until now. We’ve failed to clear out the deadwood, and we’ve not added to the quality of the squad enough to guarantee challenging. We’ll be starting this season with Valencia and Young as wing backs (both 33), which is seriously unbelievable. Both should be back ups at most. We don’t know our first choice cb pairing and are totally lopsided in attack. Oh, and with Martial out of favour, our backup for Lukaku is nothing to write home about.
On top of it all, Jose seems like he’s trying to distance himself from the squad. Incapable of seeing any positives in playing youngsters, deflecting blame anyway he can, this is the least affection I’ve felt for the club in two decades of following. Sad state of affairs, and the season’s not started yet.
Hope I’m proved wrong and this post is used to shame me in the future, but I’m going to say it. Whatever United are, Jose isn’t it. I don’t want him sacked now, but it’s clear where this train is hurtling.
Constructive? Its a thread for fans to share their thoughts and opinions. The discontent is totally just.
Jose won the league 1 season before he joined us
What a load of crap. If you can't see a style of play during Jose's career doesn't mean he hasn't one.
Has it been spectacular in United? No. Does he have a plan? Absolutely.