Virgil van Dijk | VVD throws a hissy fit

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At least Liverpool stand on their own two feet. Preferring a sugar-daddy club over Liverpool is bizarre in my view ... unless you want to see football further reduced to merely a battle of chequebooks between club owners who offer their managers blank cheques to fill in the amount they wish to spend.
Chequebook victories are hollow, they're easier to swallow than the idea of a big rival winning the league on merit.
 
Chequebook victories are hollow, they're easier to swallow than the idea of a big rival winning the league on merit.

Maybe so. But football - rather than dodgy money - would be the winner.
 
At least Liverpool stand on their own two feet. Preferring a sugar-daddy club over Liverpool is bizarre in my view ... unless you want to see football further reduced to merely a battle of chequebooks between club owners who offer their managers blank cheques to fill in the amount they wish to spend.
You would rather see Arsenal win the league than City or Chelsea? Please stop spouting nonsense. This is a Man Utd board.
 
You would rather see Arsenal win the league than City or Chelsea? Please stop spouting nonsense. This is a Man Utd board.
Meh. I see where he's coming from. It'd be great to see PSG get sharted on repeatedly next season for example. One of those rare glorious moments where petro dollars and big money don't win out (see Leicester). I'd rather Arsenal, Spurs won it over City and Chelsea. Obviously feck Lpool though.
 
You would rather see Arsenal win the league than City or Chelsea? Please stop spouting nonsense. This is a Man Utd board.

Don't tell me what I think or don't think. Speak for yourself or not all ... preferably the latter.
 
I really hope we're looking at back up options for a CB. Our window has been terrible so far and now Lallana is injured, possibly for 3 months.

It's probably not a terrible thing if we don't buy from Southampton any more. It's not gotten us anywhere since we started doing it.
 
At least Liverpool stand on their own two feet. Preferring a sugar-daddy club over Liverpool is bizarre in my view ... unless you want to see football further reduced to merely a battle of chequebooks between club owners who offer their managers blank cheques to fill in the amount they wish to spend.
There aren't many United fans that'd prefer to see Liverpool winning the league over, well, anyone really.

I hate City but their league win in 2014 didn't bother me at all. I was just relieved that Liverpool ended another season trophyless.
 
Sugardaddy clubs winning a trophy is like using cheats in a videogame.. obviously you are going to win but who cares about that win.

If Liverpool win a league without needing some bored billionaire that means a lot more than when Chelsea/City/PSG win something because they got picked up by that bored bilonaire.
 
Don't tell me what I think or don't think. Speak for yourself or not all ... preferably the latter.
Says the guy who is telling Man Utd fans we should rather see Liverpool win the title than Chelsea. How comical. If you would rather see Arsenal win the title than Chelsea or City, I highly doubt you are a true Spurs fan. Actually come to think of it, I can't expect much from someone who made a bet with me and reneged on his betting terms.
 
Says the guy who is telling Man Utd fans we should rather see Liverpool win the title than Chelsea. How comical. If you would rather see Arsenal win the title than Chelsea or City, I highly doubt you are a true Spurs fan. Actually come to think of it, I can't expect much from someone who made a bet with me and reneged on his betting terms.

Wrong on every count.

First, I didn't tell Man. Utd fans that what they actually think is different from what they said they think. But you saw fit to imply that my expressed thoughts were a lie. And now you see fit to claim that I'm not a Spurs fan.

I've given my reasons for detesting sugar-daddy clubs above all other clubs. If you don't like this view then too bad.

Second I didn't make a bet with you. Making a bet first requires agreement on the terms of the bet, and I did not agree with your terms.

Essentially, both of your recent posts concerning me have been a personal attack and very little to do with talking about football. I suggest you feck off and go target someone else.
 
There is no way in hell that Southampton will sell to Liverpool after the shit storm that's recently gone down.

Selling to Liverpool in this window would make the Saints look like a joke of a club.
 
Wrong on every count.

First, I didn't tell Man. Utd fans that what they actually think is different from what they said they think. But you saw fit to imply that my expressed thoughts were a lie. And now you see fit to claim that I'm not a Spurs fan.

I've given my reasons for detesting sugar-daddy clubs above all other clubs. If you don't like this view then too bad.

Second I didn't make a bet with you. Making a bet first requires agreement on the terms of the bet, and I did not agree with your terms.

Essentially, both of your recent posts concerning me have been a personal attack and very little to do with talking about football. I suggest you feck off and go target someone else.

Stop back-tracking your words, just like what you've done three months ago when you tried to make that bet with me regarding Deli Alli and then you decided to change the betting terms to suit your own agenda.

This was your post to a Man Utd fan.

Kapardin posted a message saying he would rather see Chelsea or City win the title than Liverpool and being a Utd fan, he's obviously right as Liverpool is our fiercest rival and no proper Utd fan would want to see Liverpool win the title over the oil rich clubs but you replied to him, saying that it's bizarre to choose Chelsea or City over Liverpool? How is this bizarre. Liverpool is our historical rival, our fiercest rival. No other teams in England come a second close. I hate Liverpool with a passion and I never want to see them win the title in my lifetime or any other silverware for that matter.

I'd much rather see Chelsea win the title than Liverpool, and to a lesser extent City. In that sense, most people here would probably prefer a good player to choose Chelsea over the other two, were he to move.

At least Liverpool stand on their own two feet. Preferring a sugar-daddy club over Liverpool is bizarre in my view ... unless you want to see football further reduced to merely a battle of chequebooks between club owners who offer their managers blank cheques to fill in the amount they wish to spend.

Arsenal ... because if they did win it it'd be because they deserved to and would actually mean something.

You went on to reply to another poster saying you would rather see Arsenal win the title ahead of Chelsea or City. This is bizarre because a true Spurs fan wouldn't say this. Spurs's fiercest rival in football is Arsenal, similar to us and Liverpool. Go to a Spurs board and post this poll and I guarantee Arsenal would get the lowest votes or none at all.

According to Wiki, a personal attack is "Making of an abusive remark on or relating to one's person instead of providing evidence when examining another person's claims or comments."

I didn't make any abusive remark on you but I've refuted your claims and comments with evidence.

3 months ago, you posted this comment on the Deli Alli thread.

If Alli wasn't happy at Spurs he wouldn't have signed a new contract - simple as that. He will be at Spurs next season - and no doubt happy to sign the likely new contract he'll be offered, and no doubt happy to continue with Poch and have another crack at the CL.

All this guff about Alli being unhappy, or soon to leave Spurs, is based on precisely nothing - not even one shred of evidence.

I've said that I'm willing to bet that Alli steps out for Spurs when we start playing in the new stadium ... but there have been no takers so far. How curious.

You challenged us on here why no one dares to take up this bet so seeing how smug you are, I decide to take up your bet and agreed to bet £100 with you if this statement stands but you went to change the terms of the bet which can be found here. You came up with all sorts of gibberish saying its the spirit of the bet blah blah.

I am a Man Utd fan on a Man Utd forum. If anything, it's you who should feck off. Go to a Spurs forum or something. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
 
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Stop back-tracking your words, just like what you've done three months ago when you tried to make that bet with me regarding Deli Alli and then you decided to change the betting terms to suit your own agenda.

This was your post to a Man Utd fan.

Kapardin posted a message saying he would rather see Chelsea or City win the title than Liverpool and being a Utd fan, he's obviously right as Liverpool is our fiercest rival and no proper Utd fan would want to see Liverpool win the title over the oil rich clubs but you replied to him, saying that it's bizarre to choose Chelsea or City over Liverpool? How is this bizarre. Liverpool is our historical rival, our fiercest rival. No other teams in England come a second close. I hate Liverpool with a passion and I never want to see them win the title in my lifetime or any other silverware for that matter.







You went on to reply to another poster saying you would rather see Arsenal win the title ahead of Chelsea or City. This is bizarre because a true Spurs fan wouldn't say this. Spurs's fiercest rival in football is Arsenal, similar to us and Liverpool. Go to a Spurs board and post this poll and I guarantee Arsenal would get the lowest votes or none at all.

According to Wiki, a personal attack is "Making of an abusive remark on or relating to one's person instead of providing evidence when examining another person's claims or comments."

I didn't make any abusive remark on you but I've refuted your claims and comments with evidence.

3 months ago, you posted this comment on the Deli Alli thread.



You challenged us on here why no one dares to take up this bet so seeing how smug you are, I decide to take up your bet and agreed to bet £100 with you if this statement stands but you went to change the terms of the bet which can be found here. You came up with all sorts of gibberish saying its the spirit of the bet blah blah.

I am a Man Utd fan on a Man Utd forum. If anything, it's you who should feck off. Go to a Spurs forum or something. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Concerning the bet, and as I said at the time, it was conditional (as far as I was concerned) on Spurs moving into our new stadium as planned for the start of 2018-19 season. You wanted to make the bet less about any potential sale of Alli and more about the potential for any slippage in the stadium construction schedule. I rejected those terms for the bet. Rejected terms, means no agreement and thus no agreed bet ... contrary to what you claimed.

I'm not going to engage further with you about this, especially not in a thread about VVD. If you wish to blather on about it, then knock yourself out.

And if you wish to continue blathering on about what a "true Spurs fan" thinks or doesn't think, or should think or shouldn't think, then likewise knock yourself out. I'm sure you're a "top red" and beat your chest loudly and regularly to prove it.
 
Concerning the bet, and as I said at the time, it was conditional (as far as I was concerned) on Spurs moving into our new stadium as planned for the start of 2018-19 season. You wanted to make the bet less about any potential sale of Alli and more about the potential for any slippage in the stadium construction schedule. I rejected those terms for the bet. Rejected terms, means no agreement and thus no agreed bet ... contrary to what you claimed.

I'm not going to engage further with you about this, especially not in a thread about VVD. If you wish to blather on about it, then knock yourself out.

And if you wish to continue blathering on about what a "true Spurs fan" thinks or doesn't think, or should think or shouldn't think, then likewise knock yourself out. I'm sure you're a "top red" and beat your chest loudly and regularly to prove it.

No, you stated your terms of the bet and I've agreed to it, you backed out of it to suit your own agenda because there is no guarantee that Spurs's new stadium could be completed for the start of 2018-2019 season and your original terms of the bet was Deli Alli stepping out on the pitch for Spurs in your new stadium. So you back-tracked your statement, I wanted to make the bet based on your original statement, you are the bookie, I'm the punter. Why would I want to make the bet less about any potential sale of Alli or potential for any slippage in the stadium construction schedule? Neither you nor I could control these external factors and I'm just abiding by your original statement of the bet which is this.

I've said that I'm willing to bet that Alli steps out for Spurs when we start playing in the new stadium ... but there have been no takers so far. How curious.

Of course you are not going to engage with me further, because you can't take the heat. Just like how you said you wouldn't continue the discussion further when I challenged your reneged terms of the bet, you knew you got called out and you silently retreated. That bolded statement says it all about your character.
 
There is no way in hell that Southampton will sell to Liverpool after the shit storm that's recently gone down.

Selling to Liverpool in this window would make the Saints look like a joke of a club.

I wouldn't disagree with that. But say he is going to go (thanks to the relationship being ruined by LFC), then what happens if LFC offer £70m and the next best offer is £60m or less?

As an aside, I see Advocaat putting his oar in and saying that we should let him go to LFC. Guess he needs him playing so that Holland can be better prepared when they play France. I would have thought that he would be better advising him to knuckle down and play for the club that pays his wages.
 
Man City 'winning' the league means nothing. Same as when Chelsea have. It's like seeing an ugly old fat guy pull up in a Ferrari with a hot bird. He knows it, she knows it, and so does everyone else.
 
There aren't many United fans that'd prefer to see Liverpool winning the league over, well, anyone really.

I hate City but their league win in 2014 didn't bother me at all. I was just relieved that Liverpool ended another season trophyless.

There shouldn't be any United fan that would prefer to see Liverpool winning the league ahead of anyone. Appalled to think so. Even City in 2014 was the lesser of two evils.

Any more progress on Van Dijk going somewhere besides Liverpool?
 
They should sell him to Chelsea and demand Christensen in return. Will be the better player in 1-2 years if he plays regularly.
 
Van Dijk's statement is a load of bollocks. He says the club blocked his move to big clubs. Well, why sign that new contract then?

He also says he didn't refuse to train, but merely told the manager that he was not "in a settled frame of mind". That means he sure as hell was not keen on training, so the manager excluded him.

Quite hypocritical, trying to paint himself in a good light. His ambition is certainly not a problem, but its' the way he's gone about it.
 
As exciting as this news is, he'll probably still end up at Chelsea as our amazing backroom team accidentally submit a transfer request to Hollywood for Dick Van Dyke by mistake
 
Aw diddums. Poor player who signed a multimillion pound contract can't get his own way. He's so hard done by.
 
They can't sell him to Liverpool or the board may as well all resign. Chelsea could do with him. If City got him that could guarantee the title as it will have solved their biggest problem at CB. As someone said sell to Chelsea and get Christensen as part of the deal. He is a good player but Southampton are well rid of this plonker.
 
No, you stated your terms of the bet and I've agreed to it, you backed out of it to suit your own agenda because there is no guarantee that Spurs's new stadium could be completed for the start of 2018-2019 season and your original terms of the bet was Deli Alli stepping out on the pitch for Spurs in your new stadium. So you back-tracked your statement, I wanted to make the bet based on your original statement, you are the bookie, I'm the punter. Why would I want to make the bet less about any potential sale of Alli or potential for any slippage in the stadium construction schedule? Neither you nor I could control these external factors and I'm just abiding by your original statement of the bet which is this.



Of course you are not going to engage with me further, because you can't take the heat. Just like how you said you wouldn't continue the discussion further when I challenged your reneged terms of the bet, you knew you got called out and you silently retreated. That bolded statement says it all about your character.

I'm willing to bet that if Abramovich had stopped off for a shit at White Hart Lane in 2003 en route to Stamford Bridge, and liked what he saw enough to go out and buy Spurs, then Glaston wouldn't have quite such a dim view of sugar daddy owners as he conveniently does at a time when Spurs are owned by people who are tighter than your average Yorkshireman.
 
"I am incredibly ambitious and want to achieve as much as I possibly can to fulfil my potential in what is a very short career as a professional footballer. I want to play European football again and challenge for major honours...

Then why sign a long-term contract until 2022 with Southampton then Virgil?
 
They can't sell him to Liverpool or the board may as well all resign. Chelsea could do with him. If City got him that could guarantee the title as it will have solved their biggest problem at CB. As someone said sell to Chelsea and get Christensen as part of the deal. He is a good player but Southampton are well rid of this plonker.
The constant over-rating of City is just ridiculous, every summer most people on here have them winning the title guaranteed. :rolleyes:
 
Man City 'winning' the league means nothing. Same as when Chelsea have. It's like seeing an ugly old fat guy pull up in a Ferrari with a hot bird. He knows it, she knows it, and so does everyone else.
Hes still plowing her morning and night though :drool:
 
Should we be in for him? Or would it be a pointless signing considering we already bought lindelof?
 
The constant over-rating of City is just ridiculous, every summer most people on here have them winning the title guaranteed. :rolleyes:
Their biggest problem seems to shift on a yearly basis as well. It was an ageing, uninspiring midfield, then wide attackers before that etc...

I'd wager that 2012 left a big scar, despite the fact that it was us blowing it in spectacular fashion that gave them the title.
 
if you don't want your club to block your "ambition", then don't sign a new 6 year contract with no out-clause and don't get tapped up in Blackpool by the German guy. Simple.

I feel bad for Southampton fans. Constantly losing their best players, many of them to Liverpool ... and then one of their supposed leaders comes out and does this four days before the start of the season. Ouch.
 
At least he's actually put in a transfer request, most players nowadays cry about wanting to leave but never do because they don't want to lose their loyalty bonus.
 
Should we be in for him? Or would it be a pointless signing considering we already bought lindelof?

It'd be better to spend the money on an attacking player or even on a new full-back than sign another centre-back. I think we already have more than enough options there, especially with Smalling and Jones still at the club.
 
if you don't want your club to block your "ambition", then don't sign a new 6 year contract with no out-clause and don't get tapped up in Blackpool by the German guy. Simple.

I feel bad for Southampton fans. Constantly losing their best players, many of them to Liverpool ... and then their captain (!) comes out and does this four days before the start of the season. Ouch.

This sounds like Klopp touched him in the no-no region behind the bumper cars.
 
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