VAR, Refs and Linesmen | General Discussion

[Rado_N]

It does more so than the human error of before. There’s been plenty of times this season alone where I’ve said ‘that’s a good decision by var’ and think about how annoying it was before when we just had to eat a blatant error.
VAR is not perfect but it’s the better of two evils for me.

Strongly disagree.

 

[Oranges038]

I've never seen Maguire react like he did today with the referee, in fact I've never seen him that angry ever. Says a lot.

He was dead right. Second week in a row now he's been playing well and referees just decide to punish him for nothing.

Anybody would get pissed at that.

 

[The Irish Connection]

Strongly disagree.

No problem

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Because of what a corrupt little racket they are, I’m fully expecting PGMOL to come out on the offensive and change the narrative around this match and announce that United face further sanctions because of the skirmish and “failed to control our players” or some shit.

They can do Arsenal too. Including a red/ban for Havertz (and not for how badly he played).

Casemiro gets deported for that.

 

[Rio5]

I can already predict that either United will get a player sent off or a pen against us

Hope you made some serious bets

 

[Vidooq]

So many wrong calls without VAR. With these refs, and no VAR, players will try to cheat every single minute. Just look at the Havertz show today. Almost scored with a handball, grabbed Ugarte for his throat, dived for a penalty. All that was missing was a goal from offside.

I don't see why people would want VAR to be scrapped with these refs. It needs tweaks, but without it, it will be mayhem.

 

[Gums]

So many wrong calls without VAR. With these refs, and no VAR, players will try to cheat every single minute. Just look at the Havertz show today. Almost scored with a handball, grabbed Ugarte for his throat, dived for a penalty. All that was missing was a goal from offside.

I don't see why people would want VAR to be scrapped with these refs. It needs tweaks, but without it, it will be mayhem.

I think most supporters agree that the existing PL refs need to be scrapped. I personally could do without VAR but if we had capable refs and found a way to eliminate or at least reduce agenda-driven abuse by VAR, I’d be open to see how it works.

As others have pointed out here, using video replays won’t improve the game if the same incapable clowns are in charge of it. You can’t fix bad driving by giving the same driver a faster car.

 

[bgoodall]

This one felt good. Been blatantly shafted by refs all year and much of Ten Hag’s tenure. Glad the lads held strong and worked their tails off today. Deserved the win by a mile.

 

[Vidooq]

I think most supporters agree that the existing PL refs need to be scrapped. I personally could do without VAR but if we had capable refs and found a way to eliminate or at least reduce agenda-driven abuse by VAR, I’d be open to see how it works.

As others have pointed out here, using video replays won’t improve the game if the same incapable clowns are in charge of it. You can’t fix bad driving by giving the same driver a faster car.

You can make it safer by adding technology into it. Will they change all the referees? No.

At least give them the tools where they will minimise the damage they are doing. You can clearly see that they are heavily instructed as to how to approach certain situations, but their common sense is non-existent, and they dont seem to be using their brains whatsoever. All the referring seems robotic, without any decision making continuity or God forbid, dare I say it, with the referee feeling the pulse of the game, and allowing free flowing football.

This Andy Madley guy was caught on camera sneak peaking the big screen at the Emirates. I'm not sure if he was trying to get more info by watching the replay. Not sure if it's shown, to be honest. But even for a referee to be checking himself out, seems weird. Nothing worse when the referee decides to be the centre of attention, like that Michael Oliver cnut.

 

[Gums]

At least give them the tools where they will minimise the damage they are doing.

Would a noose be considered offensive despite being the obvious effective choice?

 

[ManUnitedCanuck]

Two matches in a row and we have an official a yard away from a tackle and make the wrong decision…both big calls giving other teams great opportunities. It’s crazy, with a clear view of incidents they can’t get it right.

 

[HappyCamper]

I totally disagree with the lack of VAR. The drama and unfairness of this game turned it into a classic. And at the end of the day, football is to be enjoyed, stressed over, worried about and get your heart racing. And that's what it did today. When the goals went in, when the penalty was given, when the sending off was handed out, emotions were at their absolute height, because there was no waiting for a revised decision. It was pure old school anger. I loved it all. Ref was shit, but that's just standard.

I completely agree! The spontaneous emotions are a big part of the entertainment value and, in my eyes, worth much more than going down to a micro-level to find mistakes.

I obviously didn't want United to win at kickoff but after the game it felt right. This game was like a movie, where the villain lost, against all odds.