VAR, Refs and Linesmen | General Discussion

Is there a rule where if the losing team does the time wasting, it doesn’t count?

It wouldn’t have made a difference, but Onana wasting a minute to take a free kick, only for the ref blow for full time right on 7 mins. It just felt odd.
 
Golden Nugget said:
Is there a rule where if the losing team does the time wasting, it doesn’t count?

It wouldn’t have made a difference, but Onana wasting a minute to take a free kick, only for the ref blow for full time right on 7 mins. It just felt odd.
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Time wasting is the only rule in the game that depends on the current score line isn't it.
First half and level the ref never cares if a keeper takes a minute. Yet later if a team is winning he'll claim down on them taking 30seconds.
 
Spurs v Chelsea. So far in this game I’ve seen what looked like a red from Caiceido (at at least a yellow) for an over the ball kick on opponents shin, and then a Kulusevski elbow on Lavia’s head. I get that the ref can miss incidents but how VAR can clear both of these is mind boggling to me.
 
Sandikan said:
Time wasting is the only rule in the game that depends on the current score line isn't it.
First half and level the ref never cares if a keeper takes a minute. Yet later if a team is winning he'll claim down on them taking 30seconds.
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My originally thinking was had we scored from it, surely the ref would have added on time for the celebration + the time Onana wasted - but as we didn’t, nothing was done.

You have a great point though and I was overthinking it
 
WeePat said:
Both were red cards imo.
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Perhaps this is a distinction without a difference but Caicedo's was a clear orange card for me - not a stonewall red but probably worse than most yellows.

I can't recall seeing a player fly in elbow first like fecking Tony Jaa and connect with the opposing player's head. Absolutely egregious decision to not send him off.
 
TheGame said:
Absolute shocker of a decision in the game today. Felt it was a clear shove in the back and a pen.

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Does anyone doubt that PGMOL are now punishing Wolves (O'Neill more specifically) for putting the refs in the spotlight? It's clear they can just make whatever decisions they feel like without repercussion - the result was a complete sham when you actually look through what happened. West Ham score from a corner that was not a corner, West Ham score after a clear foul on a CB who gets flatlined but say the ball then coming out and being scored 10 seconds later is a different phase of play? Then there are stonewall penalties turned down, the Buendia one you can argue might be a fk, but it would be a second yellow. The other one is just a clear pen.
 
Until refs are removed from VAR then nothing will change as they are either looking to ref the game themselves or they just stick up for their mates on the field.

Way more pressure should be put on Howard Webb in my opinion, the guy is protected by the media for some reason but he is failing at his job at a alarming rate.
 
I thought yesterdays ref was one of the better refs we've had in a while... Let a lot of little stuff go (and was fairly consistent with it) so there was a decent flow to the game. Should have booked Bruno though.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
Does anyone doubt that PGMOL are now punishing Wolves (O'Neill more specifically) for putting the refs in the spotlight? It's clear they can just make whatever decisions they feel like without repercussion - the result was a complete sham when you actually look through what happened. West Ham score from a corner that was not a corner, West Ham score after a clear foul on a CB who gets flatlined but say the ball then coming out and being scored 10 seconds later is a different phase of play? Then there are stonewall penalties turned down, the Buendia one you can argue might be a fk, but it would be a second yellow. The other one is just a clear pen.
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They only wanted it removed because they were regularly screwed over last season. The referees would be doing well to be worse towards them this season.
 
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