NO I didn't and I was responding to the another post that I didn't reralize was tied to a specific incident
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Yeah but they haven't showed a frame with the corner taken in it yet which to me indicates they don't actually have one.
I’m not holding my breath when the Liverpool 2nd goal looked offside but was given and this 3rd Wolves one was deemed to be offside which the camera angles have shown looks to a baffling decision.
No angle to decide. Once again VAR is a farce. It's a disgrace that they're allowed to use it so half-arsed.And yet RAWK believe there is a ref conspiracy against them...
How the feck has VAR been allowed to be implemented thus far if it fundamentally doesn't work? How can you not have the correct camera angle? I thought Hawkeye had every possible angle.
If there's no angle to decide, then surely benefit has to be given to the attacker? This seems corrupt as feck to be honest.
Who's supposed to be offside there? Where's the ball?Yeah but they haven't showed a frame with the corner taken in it yet which to me indicates they don't actually have one.
Or the ref should view the monitor and make a judgment call.
Everything that is said now is just fairy tales. So people get confused.
There needs to be change. There need to be cam and mic on refs and cam and mic on in VAR room. There need to be explanations after games. This is getting worse and worse. No transparency either.
There needs to be change. There need to be cam and mic on refs and cam and mic on in VAR room. There need to be explanations after games. This is getting worse and worse. No transparency either.
The Wolves player Toti just in front of TAA. This is from a square cross from the bottom of the screen. Looks onside to me regardless.
Nothing to see here. Literally. No video for VAR to make a decision with. No conspiracy. As you were.
Here’s my thinking, surely the linesman didn’t give offside he’s only signalling his choice after the move is over?
He literally didn’t give it, the goal was scored before the whistle had blew. If VAR can’t commit then surely it’s a goal? If the whistle isn’t blown then it can’t be changed?
He literally didn’t give it, the goal was scored before the whistle had blew. If VAR can’t commit then surely it’s a goal? If the whistle isn’t blown then it can’t be changed?
Ball is touching #11's head, heading towards the corner taker not in frame. They didn't have a frame with both the ball, TAA and corner taker in it so pulled the offside decision out of their arse.
The line on Trent's foot running down the pitch, that's roughly where the wolves corner taker is at that point, coming back from taking the corner.
Ball is coming off wolves number 11 head and heading backwards towards the wolves goal, the corner taker picks it up.
It's probably close tbh, but looks dodgy.
Plus phases of play and all that shite.
Apparently the corner taker was off when it came back to him but conveniently there's no camera angle to show him offside
2023 and we don't have cameras to cover entire pitch in the richest league in the world. The absolute state of VAR and refereeing in this country.
Thanks to all. What an abortion.
Mike Dean as the VAR official a farce but how about the shitstain who raised the flag in the first place? Horrible officiating.
I’m sure that when VAR came about and the technology was described they said that cameras are perfectly in sync and multiple camera angles can be used to determine when the ball was hit and where the player was in that frame.
The linesman put his flag up after the goal, as instructed. VAR are saying they don’t have an angle to change that decision. I get that part of it, but it’s bizarre they haven’t got a camera on it.
5 Hawkeye supplied cameras that don't cover all of the pitch.
Billion pound league, Wish ordered technology.
Billion pound league, Wish ordered technology.
Tell me you've never played football without...etc etc
It’s after the goal to signal what his decision would have been, he hasn’t given anything? I know they’re supposed to raise the flag but if VAR falls down then waiting until after the play is irrelevant and nullifies it’s purpose?
So much play has happened between the supposed offside (which I don’t think happens from the header because he isn’t heading it but having the ball bounce off his head while stretching) in a VAR less game it must mean the offside was missed?
How the feck is nobody talking about Andy Robertson's STOMP ON THE FACE of Adama Traore at the end of the match? Has not been mentioned on the Caf or on Reddit etc. Did everyone miss that?
And since it was Andy fecking Robertson we can be certain that it was intentional. He is such a massive cnut and it is quite astonishing how well he has been disguising it for years now, outright unbelievable actually. 100% in the top ten snide cnut in all of world football.
And since it was Andy fecking Robertson we can be certain that it was intentional. He is such a massive cnut and it is quite astonishing how well he has been disguising it for years now, outright unbelievable actually. 100% in the top ten snide cnut in all of world football.
I’m not sure I follow? How would the linesman have known that VAR wouldn’t have the correct angle.
You can just see the corner taker's head come into shot when the ball comes off Hwang... there's nothing of the exact moment of contact, but it really looks as though Arnold at the back post is playing him onside no matter what.
Absolute and complete farce - and it always goes in Liverpool's favour, every time.
Weasel cnut Robertson kicks somebody in damn near every game and never sees a card. It's incredible.
Not a league game though, is it
Even Juergen Klopp says he isn't sure, and doesn't have the pictures to prove it, was it a camera problem or something, and he can see why Wolves would be upset
So he isn't anywhere near asserting it was definitely a goal
So he isn't anywhere near asserting it was definitely a goal
No, the linesman is meant to keep his flag down if he isn’t sure and he signals what he would have given after the play is over.
If there’s no VAR then surely the sheer gap between the offside and goal means the offside was missed? Did the ref blow before the ball went over the line? Isn’t that overruling the goal without VAR?
If the linesman is meant to keep his flag down on tight decisions then VAR failing means that process doesn’t work so surely the process of keeping the flag down works against Liverpool? If VAR doesn’t work then doesn’t the entire move under VAR become removed from VAR as a whole? How can you go back when the offside is missed?
Which is why they’ve gone with the on-field decision, which was the flag raised by the linesman.Yeah but they haven't showed a frame with the corner taken in it yet which to me indicates they don't actually have one.
I don’t think the offside is off the header, if a player is stretching and it bounces off the head rather than you playing it then it doesn’t qualify as playing the ball
The 3rd Wolves goal can at least be 'confusing' but there's no excuse for Salah's goal to exist.
They say the defender purposely played the ball, OF COURSE HE BLOODY DID SALAH IS RIGHT BEHIND HIM
SURELY there has to be a timeline of events that make Salah being offside in the first place more important? without him being there the defender doesn't even try to head the ball.
Exactly the same as Evertons goal against United on Friday where Varane is forced to intercept the ball from Coady.
They say the defender purposely played the ball, OF COURSE HE BLOODY DID SALAH IS RIGHT BEHIND HIM
SURELY there has to be a timeline of events that make Salah being offside in the first place more important? without him being there the defender doesn't even try to head the ball.
Exactly the same as Evertons goal against United on Friday where Varane is forced to intercept the ball from Coady.
Didn't they get rid of that bollocks 'intentionally playing the ball' rule after the other hilarious offside these cnuts got in the CL final?
The referee is still in charge of the decision, and if the linesman isn't sure, the referee can give the goal, then see what the VAR says.
I don’t think so because it happened in a CL game this year. I’m racking my brains trying to think but a defender fights with the attacker to get to the ball, Gets to it but it’s at a huge stretch, it’s smacked in and the goal is disallowed.
But the linesman wasn't certain hence not raising his flag until the play was over? So even he wasn't 100% sure.
It's a bit of a mess isn't it.
Still the wrong decision. Thiago cleared the ball afterwards which creates a new phase. In the phase where the goal happened there was no offside at any point.