VAR, Refs and Linesmen | General Discussion

It was blatantly the correct decision to overturn the goal. There are two reasons why people are still soiling themselves over this:

1. VAR has had such a poor weekend in general.

2. United were the team that benefitted from the (obviously correct) call.
 
If McT push on some arse fella was a foul (it was), it was a foul on Eriksen too. No consistency, ref should have given it straight away.
 
Thing is, if the player had got a nick on the ball as well as taking out Eriksen id probably say they were hard done by and I’d be angry if that was given against us. No bias, i’d say they were really unlucky. But he didn’t get anywhere near it and it’s a clear foul.

There should be no controversy here at all:lol:
I know, if the ref blew up as a foul it would have been forgotten, stupid ref making a rod for his own back. He went through the back of him, football is so annoying :lol:
 
Pure bias to suggest a push and knee on a player with zero ball won isn't a foul. Shame that's clouding perspective.
 
Honestly anyone arguing that wasn’t a foul simply doesn’t know the game, and I’m comfortable including Merson and JFH in that.

I mean just being on the same wave length as Paul fecking Merson should give you pause.
 
2 potential leg breakers that I've seen this weekend and nothing done. Is this not what VAR is for ? If players don't get a clear message that this is unacceptable there will be a nasty injury before long.
 
It was blatantly the correct decision to overturn the goal. There are two reasons why people are still soiling themselves over this:

1. VAR has had such a poor weekend in general.

2. United were the team that benefitted from the (obviously correct) call.
There’s a reason the entire footballing world including the pundits (including ex Man Utd players) feel it was a nonsense decision.
 
It is obvious since the ref saw it again and changed his mind.
It’s funny when fans say this, the ref changing his mind confirms he thought it was an obvious mistake

There has never been a case where the referee disagreed with VAR in the premier league to my knowledge,

That's one of the big problems with VARs implementation in the league. They must be told to just go with it...

The ridiculous decisions against West Ham and Newcastle yesterday prime examples where the on field ref should also tell VAR where to go. Can't blame the on field ref for VVD, wasn't shown to him.
 
Corner or penalty there?

Goal kick to Man Utd given from the man from Salford.
 
It is obvious since the ref saw it again and changed his mind.
It’s funny when fans say this, the ref changing his mind confirms he thought it was an obvious mistake

He is pressured into changing his mind. We see push with one hand on the back get off 100x every week. Varane just got away with one on Jesus. It is a mistake if the ref misses it and he certainly did not.

The reason why we went with obvious mistakes is to stop reviewing 50-50 stuff. How far back are we going to look at was it a foul or not?
 
Supports: Chelsea :lol:
And capable of saying my team got lucky yesterday. Very lucky.

Whereas almost every United fan on here is sweeping away the obvious error and poor officiating today in their favour.

Justice done for Arsenal. 1-1.
 
There’s a reason the entire footballing world including the pundits (including ex Man Utd players) feel it was a nonsense decision.

Please let me know how I can get access to this "entire footballing world". Especially since my French TV called it that it would be overturned. Probably they are not part of said football world. Or maybe it just the opinion of you and some other people?
 
All these neutrals haven't yet commented on the identical foul from Malacia on Saka :lol: What blowhards you lot are!
 
They don't actually care about being consistent or honest in their observations. Maybe they don't actually believe what they are saying, they just find comfort in the "durr Man Utd Old Trafford referees" mantra
The Casemiro foul just now was the same :lol:
 
Keep it or get rid, you’re still going to have the same incompetent officials.
 

You said "the game's gone" after the foul from Odegaard on Eriksen. There were two identical fouls in the second half that led to free kicks for Arsenal, one by Malacia and one by Casemiro. I am simply asking if you also think those shouldn't have been given as fouls? It's actually a very simple question that none of you have actually answered yet.
 
He is pressured into changing his mind. We see push with one hand on the back get off 100x every week. Varane just got away with one on Jesus. It is a mistake if the ref misses it and he certainly did not.

The reason why we went with obvious mistakes is to stop reviewing 50-50 stuff. How far back are we going to look at was it a foul or not?
He’s not pressured though? We don’t see players go through the backs of other players and get away with it. Defenders make a living out of getting those fouls for feck sake
 
And capable of saying my team got lucky yesterday. Very lucky.

Whereas almost every United fan on here is sweeping away the obvious error and poor officiating today in their favour.

Justice done for Arsenal. 1-1.

3-1. Where is your justice now?
 
You said "the game's gone" after the foul from Odegaard on Eriksen. There were two identical fouls in the second half that led to free kicks for Arsenal, one by Malacia and one by Casemiro. I am simply asking if you also think those shouldn't have been given as fouls? It's actually a very simple question that none of you have actually answered yet.
I was being tongue in cheek
 
Why? For asking you if you think those were fouls?
I never once commented on anything being a foul or not.

I did say VAR is inconsistent, and that is beyond discussion. Some games they will revoke the decision on the field, some games they won't which makes the whole concept meaningless. It was definitely a foul, but there has been countless fouls that has not been brought back earlier. It's so flawed at the moment, it feels more unfair then it ever did when in-game referees did it all on their own.

And what even constitutes "clear and obvious" at this rate? Sometimes they tell the referee to look at everything, and sometimes they refuse to go in to protect the referee? It will never work they way it is currently implemented

EDIT: Post-count is spent for the day so I'll just edit in my response to your post below:
So all of this talk for a decision that you actually think was correct? It would make more sense to pipe up when the definite fouls aren't being brought back, not in the instances when the correct call is made.
If you by "all of this talk" mean the one post I had straight after the goal where I wrote "no consistency at all" then yeah.
You have also tagged me in a thread I have never posted in, at least not this season so I think you have overestimated how much energy I have put into the issue.
 
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I never once commented on anything being a foul or not.

I did say VAR is inconsistent, and that is beyond discussion. Some games they will revoke the decision on the field, some games they won't which makes the whole concept meaningless. It was definitely a foul, but there has been countless fouls that has not been brought back earlier. It's so flawed at the moment, it feels more unfair then it ever did when in-game referees did it all on their own.

So all of this talk for a decision that you actually think was correct? It would make more sense to pipe up when the definite fouls aren't being brought back, not in the instances when the correct call is made.
 
It was a foul. If ref had given then and there itself then no one would be talking right now.
 
Good taking arsenals goal back, clear foul.

Should had shown the red card for Gabriel's foul on Bruno and Saka on Malacia.