Feels like an overall big 6 bias from the refs
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Is there any way a team can launch a lawsuit against the PL refs for this? I'm guessing not
I feel like Chelsea probably could against Mike Dean who admitted he was wrong in the VAR call when they drew vs Spurs.
Of course. Haaland should have seen red v Palace, Palace win and City lose out on his 7 goals over the next three games.
These all add up and it’s about time something was done about it
Todd Boehly will ask the referees out to dinner to discuss it
The disallowed goals for Newcastle and West Ham today are Disgraceful.
The West Ham one isn't a Foul, not even close to a Foul awful refereeing. If the same challenge happens again but bowen dosent manage to hurdle mendy and gets wiped out, it would not be given as a foul.
The Newcastle one, could possibly be a foul other for the fact the coming together is caused by one of the Palace defenders quite blatantly pushing the Newcastle attacker, something that you probably couldn't see if it wasn't for VAR, and yet they still got it wrong.
I think the refs are too heavily influenced by the VAR. Perhaps the VAR should just encourage the Ref to have a look at the available footage to ensure the ref hasn't missed anything and is happy with his original decision, rather than pre loading it by telling the ref they believe there has been a mistake.
Some of it must be physiological, if someone is in your ear telling you they think you made a mistake then showing you the footage that they believe shows the mistake often slowed down far too much then you almost feel like you have to change it.
Perhaps we should just encourage the ref to have a look at the available footage whenever there is a big decision a goal/ a penalty/ a red card. Just to make sure the ref is happy with there original decision, rather than just having the VAR only intervening if they think there has been a mistake.
The West Ham one isn't a Foul, not even close to a Foul awful refereeing. If the same challenge happens again but bowen dosent manage to hurdle mendy and gets wiped out, it would not be given as a foul.
The Newcastle one, could possibly be a foul other for the fact the coming together is caused by one of the Palace defenders quite blatantly pushing the Newcastle attacker, something that you probably couldn't see if it wasn't for VAR, and yet they still got it wrong.
I think the refs are too heavily influenced by the VAR. Perhaps the VAR should just encourage the Ref to have a look at the available footage to ensure the ref hasn't missed anything and is happy with his original decision, rather than pre loading it by telling the ref they believe there has been a mistake.
Some of it must be physiological, if someone is in your ear telling you they think you made a mistake then showing you the footage that they believe shows the mistake often slowed down far too much then you almost feel like you have to change it.
Perhaps we should just encourage the ref to have a look at the available footage whenever there is a big decision a goal/ a penalty/ a red card. Just to make sure the ref is happy with there original decision, rather than just having the VAR only intervening if they think there has been a mistake.
You'd think a day like today, with a couple of the worst VAR/reffing displays you're likely to see would lead to some form of accountability and/or a review of system that clearly isn't working.
But will it feck.
But will it feck.
A thread cleanser…
They are fecking more corrupt than anyone else.
Dream teamShaping up to be an absolute banger tomorrow with this elite duo:
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Hilarious seeing all the scousers complain about the decision in the Villa City game 
As if they haven't been done favours by VAR
As if they haven't been done favours by VAR
Can only laugh. Every other blatant offside they play on, but the Villa one he puts the flag up as Coutinho is about to shoot.
The one in the Chelsea game is even worse.
Don't think the problem is with the VAR, it's the muppets making the decisions.
The one in the Chelsea game is even worse.
Don't think the problem is with the VAR, it's the muppets making the decisions.
Add the one in the Newcastle game. Mitchell pushes the Newcastle player into the keeper and it's neither a goal or a penalty but a free kick. Baffling stuff.
Then call him a cheat. He was a cheat! Moyes previously criticized his own player for going down too easily. It needs to be done.
Even worse watching it on MOTD.
Bizarre day of officiating. Just absurd.
Moyes and Declan Rice giving it both barrels branding the decision ‘scandalous’ and ‘disgraceful’.
Wonder what the FA will say?
Wonder what the FA will say?
Probably one of the worst matchday I have witnessed.
I suspect it’s such a bad decision that they will actually accept that it was an error and probably let them off.
What happens if a manger refuses to pay a fine? I'm sure Moyes will be charged by the FA but if I was him I'd tell them to feck off
They’ll probably have a go at Rice too? And again, if I was him, I’d say no… or I’ll pay it when these officials get a punishment for stupid errors.
I've often wondered about this myself. If a player/manager took it all the way, don't they have the right to free speech? Or at least to answer a question put to them truthfully?
Just seen the City one. Fecking bellends! They cant even follow the simple instruction to do nothing until the play is over! What is wrong with these bloody clowns. They all need sacking and the PL need to be hiring refs internationally.
So that's Chelsea, Liverpool and City all benefiting from scandalous calls this week. Any bets how we'll be screwed over tonight? My bet is Saliba will be allowed to strangle De Gea at the near post from a corner.
So that's Chelsea, Liverpool and City all benefiting from scandalous calls this week. Any bets how we'll be screwed over tonight? My bet is Saliba will be allowed to strangle De Gea at the near post from a corner.
Must be written somewhere between clubs and the FA that all their employees must abide by those rules. It's probably the club that is legally fined, not the individual manager/player.
We'd need a player/manager that gets the benefit of a bad decision to clearly all them out. Not a "yeah we got lucky on this decision, take it up to the ref..."
Best players in the world, best managers in the world, best facilities and grounds in the world, best match day support in the world…and completely inept referees.
That really needs to be the message that gets repeated over and over. Everything about the PL is top class except the refereeing. And it really hurts the product.
That really needs to be the message that gets repeated over and over. Everything about the PL is top class except the refereeing. And it really hurts the product.
Well yesterday just proves what I’ve said all along, how can a system work when the calls being reviewed are subjective. How the F did any league think that’s a good idea? It should be used for offsides, balls out of play, corners, goals ect.. not for subjective plays. In the past refs couldn’t stop any goal and find any small foul in the buildup if they wanted to but now they can with VAR. The reason the NFL replay system works is it’s used just for clear cut decisions ( fumbles, balls catched) not for subjective calls like holding or interference.
I know it doesn’t work like this but the ref, as soon as he saw mendy was fine, should have re-awarded WHU their equalizing goal back.
VVD tackle was a red for me.
It was for me too.
I didn’t see a clear angle of the disallowed goal, the angles I did see looked veeerryyy tight. I’ve seen some say Milner’s foot played Coady onside?
No chance. The still image makes it look bad, but nowhere near a red in real time.
yes, there are angles that look like that’s inside too. Makes a bit of a mockery of the clear and obvious.
He goes studs in and gets nowhere near the ball. If Onanas leg is a few inches forward and planted that can be a leg breaker. It’s a dangerous and very poor tackle.
"If" "can be". Yeh, nah. I think you're over reacting.
Exactly. We have a renowned poor standard of reffing in this country. Some atrocious calls yesterday, City lost and Chelsea drew but both came away with points.
Officiating was bad before VAR. Somehow they managed to keep it bad after VAR. The problem is not the technology, the problem is these referees. They are not good enough.
England does not produce enough great players and managers for the PL, so it imports both managers and players. Perhaps it's time to import referees as well.
England does not produce enough great players and managers for the PL, so it imports both managers and players. Perhaps it's time to import referees as well.
The VAR Official was Australian
It was a dangerous tackle, end of. Should have been a red.