I remember this guy was the talk of the Cafe when i first joined. Along with Vicente and Joaquin.
I was too young to get my cock out back in those days.
I was too young to get my cock out back in those days.
Van Der Vaart On The Move
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I think for the right price he would be a good edition. He is crafty and versatile in attack. I could see Fergie getting good use out of him but again only if the price is right.
exacxtly my thought, although maybe slightly less technically gifted than Sneijder, mentally he is more mature and he has learned to track back and defend when needed in the Bundesliga. Furthermore he still possesses great vision and passing abilities and he scores goals as well... so i guess he would be be a better fit in our team than Sneijder (doesnt do any defensive work whatsoever) and looks like he could fulfill a similar role as scholes...
i think he is perfect for us. he has always had talent. he had a great spell at Hamburg. he has not been bad at Real.
In the current scenario we can have him play at the tip of the midfield trio or behind roon(whatever you want to call that position). he may not be the best defensively but with two central midfielders behind him, we can afford that.
he has a good left foot and that can only help us.
some people are calling for sneijder rather than VDV. well, with ando still there, scholes not retiring yet, i don't see us going for someone to be a part of the two CMS. rather i see us going for and also needing a CAM or CF more.i feel with only one forward, having sneijder as the CF or CAM is not the best idea(even though we have played like that recently)
and in the CAM and CF position VDV is more of a direct goal threat. Also getting VDV will be sooo much easier than getting sneijder from Inter.
I love sneijder though.following would be awesome... :-)
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In the current scenario we can have him play at the tip of the midfield trio or behind roon(whatever you want to call that position). he may not be the best defensively but with two central midfielders behind him, we can afford that.
he has a good left foot and that can only help us.
some people are calling for sneijder rather than VDV. well, with ando still there, scholes not retiring yet, i don't see us going for someone to be a part of the two CMS. rather i see us going for and also needing a CAM or CF more.i feel with only one forward, having sneijder as the CF or CAM is not the best idea(even though we have played like that recently)
and in the CAM and CF position VDV is more of a direct goal threat. Also getting VDV will be sooo much easier than getting sneijder from Inter.
I love sneijder though.following would be awesome... :-)
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I like that links with Liverpool are said to be for £12m but with United for £20m.
wenger could've helped you.
Yawn... boring..
Great isn't it - they keep getting linked with players who's transfer fees are miraculously halved for Liverpool. Banega was one recently, being linked with a £7m move to Liverpool - £7m!
Real Madrid midfielder Rafael van de Vaart wants to join Bayern Munich, according to compatriot Arjen Robben. The Dutch star looks set to finally leave the Santiago Bernabeu this summer after a rollercoaster two years at the Spanish giants and has been heavily linked with a move to the Premier League with Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester City and Manchester United tipped as possible suitors.
A product of Ajax’s famed Academy, Van de Vaart starred for the Dutch giants for five years before spending three years in the Bundesliga with Hamburg. Switching to Real in August 2008 and joining a Dutch contingent that came to include former Manchester United striker Ruud van Nistelrooy, ex-Chelsea man Arjen Robben, Royston Drenthe, Klaas-Jan Huntelaar and Wesley Sneijder, van de Vaart made an instant impact scoring on his debut against Numancia. Taking the number 23 shirt from Sneijder, who himself inherited the number 10 left by Manchester City bound Robinho, the midfielder initially thrived in La Liga and was nominated in his first year at the club for the Ballon d’Or. Unfortunately with injury, off-pitch upheaval and the arrival of Cristiano Ronaldo and Kaka upsetting his form he spent last season as a bit part player under Manuel Pellegrini. Mooted as a possible target for Liverpool in January the 27-year-old spoke last week about his admiration for Arsenal as he weighs up his options.
In an attempt to give Bayern the upper hand over their English rivals, it appears that Robben has dismissed the threat posed by Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester United and Manchester City and made clear that this season’s defeated Champions League finalists are right in with a shout of snapping up the talismanic midfield meastro.
"Rafael told me that FC Bayern is a great club when we were playing together at Real Madrid," Robben told Kicker magazine.
"Rafa was also the one who advised me to come to Munich.
"He has told me that, if Bayern were to ask him to come, he would cycle to Munich just to get a contract here.
"He wanted to move to Munich (when he went to Real) so maybe it could still happen."
A product of Ajax’s famed Academy, Van de Vaart starred for the Dutch giants for five years before spending three years in the Bundesliga with Hamburg. Switching to Real in August 2008 and joining a Dutch contingent that came to include former Manchester United striker Ruud van Nistelrooy, ex-Chelsea man Arjen Robben, Royston Drenthe, Klaas-Jan Huntelaar and Wesley Sneijder, van de Vaart made an instant impact scoring on his debut against Numancia. Taking the number 23 shirt from Sneijder, who himself inherited the number 10 left by Manchester City bound Robinho, the midfielder initially thrived in La Liga and was nominated in his first year at the club for the Ballon d’Or. Unfortunately with injury, off-pitch upheaval and the arrival of Cristiano Ronaldo and Kaka upsetting his form he spent last season as a bit part player under Manuel Pellegrini. Mooted as a possible target for Liverpool in January the 27-year-old spoke last week about his admiration for Arsenal as he weighs up his options.
In an attempt to give Bayern the upper hand over their English rivals, it appears that Robben has dismissed the threat posed by Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester United and Manchester City and made clear that this season’s defeated Champions League finalists are right in with a shout of snapping up the talismanic midfield meastro.
"Rafael told me that FC Bayern is a great club when we were playing together at Real Madrid," Robben told Kicker magazine.
"Rafa was also the one who advised me to come to Munich.
"He has told me that, if Bayern were to ask him to come, he would cycle to Munich just to get a contract here.
"He wanted to move to Munich (when he went to Real) so maybe it could still happen."
don't want him at Munich as it will mean it might hinder Kroos' development...
I think he's really poor. Has nothing to add to any top team, let alone United. And I feel similarly about his compatriot Sneijder (who's maybe a bit more effective).
They're alright with some technique on the ball but nothing in terms of real ability to run the middle of the field. Just seem to hang around the fringes but sometimes get the opportunity to play a good ball through. Maybe a mid-table team would fancy them as a "flair" player but even then, I'd think that'd be for a short term.
To me, it seems like they've become these reality/youtube/facebook socialites that have a bubble like following which then becomes impossible for the media to ignore when there's a chance for publicity. And then you have chairmen/managers that need to sign such garbage at whatever the bloody price is 10, 20, 25m to sometimes satisfy some of the same fans.
I just hope this sort don't come round United. We've plenty homegrown players equal, if not better.
They're alright with some technique on the ball but nothing in terms of real ability to run the middle of the field. Just seem to hang around the fringes but sometimes get the opportunity to play a good ball through. Maybe a mid-table team would fancy them as a "flair" player but even then, I'd think that'd be for a short term.
To me, it seems like they've become these reality/youtube/facebook socialites that have a bubble like following which then becomes impossible for the media to ignore when there's a chance for publicity. And then you have chairmen/managers that need to sign such garbage at whatever the bloody price is 10, 20, 25m to sometimes satisfy some of the same fans.
I just hope this sort don't come round United. We've plenty homegrown players equal, if not better.
Am I correct to assume you didnt watch Real Madrid in the second half of last season?
They ran Barcelona mighty close and VDV was one of the main reasons why, along with Ronaldo of course and Guti. Ronaldo and Higuain scored a lot of goals together, but someone had to create them. And Guti and VDV were often the ones doing that.
He did play a cracking a ball which RVP scored a sweet volley off, in the friendly against Mexico....
With Mourinho coming in there are strong chances Real will let go of RVV. Hopefully we get him. I really like him. Also Benzema. Anybody see this happening?
Nope
Possebon is better than both, I have to agree with you, who spotted those youtube wonders? Sneijder and VDV, for feck's sake. Get a grip people, and get Dong as well.
Sneijder was brilliant for Inter this season. I watched a lot of Inter matches this season, and he was a very important part to their success.
He scores for the Dutch today against Ghana.
nice movement and finish.
Won a penalty too, which van persie just scored.
Dutch look good going forward, crap at the back. Ghana look crap.
Dutch look good going forward, crap at the back. Ghana look crap.
Good player, but I wouldn't pay more than 5-7 million for him
In todays market that wouldnt buy you one of his toe nails.
Bloody hell Chris Smalling cost us more than that
Whilst I certainly agree with your stance on the Wenger paedophile joke, I'm not sure why the people on this forum think it's acceptable to label people people as 'spastics' as a derogatory insult.
Real madrid paid him 8-9 million 2-3 yrs ago, he is the Afellay's reserve in his national team
They want to sell him, that is the real price, 5-7 million, considering his wage as well
They want to sell him, that is the real price, 5-7 million, considering his wage as well
Both he and Afellay play and play very well.
Madrid got him when his contract situation was weakened. If I remember correctly he had a year on his deal so they got him cheap when they were unable to get Ronaldo.
He was one of Madrid's best players last season after Ronaldo, Higuain and debatably Guti.
Never rated him and still don't.
When he was young and had broken into the the Ajax side and was making headway in the Dutch league I was really keen on us signing him to replace Scholes/Veron.. But it never really materialised.. A while later I was watching a Match between Scotland and Holland and happened to have a good look at Sneijder and since then I have not looked back at VDV much.. He moved to Hamburg who were then a very average side.. Meanwhile Sneijder started making huge progress with both Ajax and Holland.. Soon Real Madrid signed him and he went on to star for both Real as well as Holland in the Euro 2008.. I don't know why but ever since I started following the progress of Sneijder I seemed to look at VDV even less.. Having said that I don't think there is any chance we will ever sign either of them..
Yep, I remember the days when VDV comes out with Joaquin that they'd love to play along side Ruud and assist him.
Back then he was used as LW though and Joaquin was a hell of a talent at RW, never got his big move though and just dried out in Valencia's side. While VDV left for Real to be a Sjneider sub.
If I'm not mistaken, we were always wanting VDV for LW ? Not Scholes replacement... He changed to ATM when he moved to Humburg but back on those days he certainly was playing LW if I'm not mistaken.
I'm not sure if your going to rate him one of their best when he's only played a few games, not even 70% i recall.
Ronaldo, Higuain and Casillas were probably their top three, VDV shouldn't be near that list until he gets to play consistently like in the 2nd half of the season.
Nope.. As far as I recall he was always playing centrally for Ajax and Holland.. I think your thinking of FM.. In FM he was a left sided player..
I didn't play FM, so it was probably back to those CM days...
Casillas in the season where lots of fans want him dropped from the national team? I guess you didnt watch Madrid then.
Either Guti or VDV was Madrid's best midfielder last season (close and similar) and a big reason why Higuain and Ronaldo scored the goals they did.
As for his position I think he was wide left as an 18 year old, AM in Hamburg and then Real Madrid bought him as they couldnt get Ronaldo... And tried playing him on the right, left and all over the place. But last season he was very, very good in a midfield 3 with Guti and Alonso. Probably a bit too attack minded but... Real Madrid.
If the quotes are right then Chelsea and Liverpool are in pole position. He would make both of their squads stronger in that midfield attacking area. I could see him picking Chelsea over Liverpool if he had a choice though. He's a very good player who is being under appreciated at Real Madrid and it's their loss if they sell him.
They just don't seem to learn.
I think Arsenal would do great business with a cheeky bid.