If he sell him for 3x price we bought nothing wrong with that.
If he sell him for 3x price we bought nothing wrong with that.
Read back what I said £30m plus the sell on fee for Zirkzee agree this is £17m not £20m however - Total £47m is Approx €53m and Bayern have the cash to pay Olise Buy out in one instalment, we currently do not !
Will Zirkzee instantly make United a Premier league team that can score 70-75 goals, not so sure and by the look of it neither are United or they wouldn’t be currently linked with Ivan Toney recently ?
That’s the spirit, give him until the end of August then it’s gloves off!!He better make a difference this season or my toys will be well flung out of my pram!!!
That’s the spirit, give him until the end of August then it’s gloves off!!
Well unless he flops, we will develop him and they get him at his peak years
From the bits I’ve seen, I hope he does.Have a feeling Yoro will be coming to us. We’ll have him for 5-6 years then he’ll go to Madrid
Have a feeling Yoro will be coming to us. We’ll have him for 5-6 years then he’ll go to Madrid
This has only happened once in history in fairness. Absolutely it could happen but that’d require him meeting his top potential (always a great unknown) and Madrid remaining more dominant than United in Europe (likely) and doing so whilst not having two great centre backs (very unlikely).
People reckoned the same with Pogba when he joined us.
But we also need to recognize that for many players, Madrid is like reaching the promised landYou guys need to put these fantasies to rest. United, despite being shit, is still a final destination type of club, we don't sign players with the long-term view of selling them.
The same kinda happened with Ruud and Beckham. Came close to happening with Roy, but we managed to change his mind.
He can’t do any worse than Martial.He better make a difference this season or my toys will be well flung out of my pram!!!
Absolute tosh.
Ruud was benched by Saha, was frustrating for him but every man and his dog could see we were a better side with Saha in it. That’s like pretending we took Varane or Casemiro off them.
Becks… thought everyone knew that story now after his doc, wanted to stay, Fergie fecked him off. We were delighted to get rid and had already agreed a deal with Barca just to get him out.
But we also need to recognize that for many players, Madrid is like reaching the promised land
Or.. the player is a huge Madrid fan but is prepared to go to United and get 4-5 years experience/development but knows that he will still be 22/23 and can move to Madrid then. It should not stop us from buying him, we have 4-5 years to convince hI’m that he’s in the right placeI don't think that needs "recognising", as it is understood. For the vast majority of players Madrid is the pinnacle. It doesn't negate my assertions though. United isn't trying to buy Yoro to have him for 5-6 years. We only reluctantly sold once.
If we do end up buying him and then selling him, it'll likely be because he's either no longer core to us, and/or we failed to ensure security regarding his contractual situation at the club - I don't think the latter is likely.
Or.. the player is a huge Madrid fan but is prepared to go to United and get 4-5 years experience/development but knows that he will still be 22/23 and can move to Madrid then. It should not stop us from buying him, we have 4-5 years to convince hI’m that he’s in the right place
I’m a lifelong United fan who can’t stand Real, yet if I could play football and both clubs made me an offer, I’d choose United first with a view to ending up in Madrid at some point. Outside of purely footballing reasons, I can see why the city appeals to a lot of players.But we also need to recognize that for many players, Madrid is like reaching the promised land
Usually maybe, but as an 18 year old… he could develop somewhere else and could be the best thing for him.I’m a lifelong United fan who can’t stand Real, yet if I could play football and both clubs made me an offer, I’d choose Madrid. Sorry and all, but as a city for the family to grow up, it’s a no contest.
Bloody annoying isn’t it?
Or as I’ve been saying, he wants to go to Madrid at some stage in his career. It’s a one or the other choice as you’ve laid out.I mean, I don't know how anyone would read my posts and not see I'm not post from - nor particularly care for the POV or intentions of the player. Again, United isn't buying him with the intention of having him for 4/5 years. Yoro and his advisers will surely be aware that United isn't a "selling" club, before accepting any potential move. If you think that we're going into this with a "yeah we can have and develop him, for 4/5 years and then we can sell him to Madrid for a profit" you're free to do so. I'm simply pointing at our stature and what we've done historically, to say otherwise.
If we do end up buying him and then selling him, it'll likely be because he's either no longer core to us, and/or we failed to ensure security regarding his contractual situation at the club - I don't think the latter is likely.
Or potentially you could play for both if you’re young enough and good enoughI’m a lifelong United fan who can’t stand Real, yet if I could play football and both clubs made me an offer, I’d choose Madrid. Sorry and all, but as a city for the family to grow up, it’s a no contest.
Bloody annoying isn’t it?
I’m a lifelong United fan and if both clubs made me an offer I’d tell Madrid to go and find someone elseI’m a lifelong United fan who can’t stand Real, yet if I could play football and both clubs made me an offer, I’d choose Madrid. Sorry and all, but as a city for the family to grow up, it’s a no contest.
Bloody annoying isn’t it?
I wouldn't mind that, 5-6 years is more than ample time to stabilize the club and be in a position to scout and sign or develop a replacement. Right now we need to up the quality of our defense to get us competing.Have a feeling Yoro will be coming to us. We’ll have him for 5-6 years then he’ll go to Madrid
To be fair that’d be the ideal. Would be gutting to leave United, but retiring in Madrid would be tempting enough.Or potentially you could play for both if you’re young enough and good enough
Or as I’ve been saying, he wants to go to Madrid at some stage in his career. It’s a one or the other choice as you’ve laid out.
he could well be core to us but decides that 5 years at United is enough
A club can still sell a player against club wishes you know. Hence why I disagree with your two options.Players can't move unless their clubs sells them - hence me adding the qualifier regarding contractual security - and me pointing at what United has done historically.
Ultimately, United doesn't sign players with the long-term view of selling them.
I’m a lifelong United fan who can’t stand Real, yet if I could play football and both clubs made me an offer, I’d choose Madrid. Sorry and all, but as a city for the family to grow up, it’s a no contest.
Bloody annoying isn’t it?
A club can still sell a player against club wishes you know. Hence why I disagree with your two options.
Sigh. He doesn’t have to force a move. He could simply say, I’ve been In Manchester already 3 years, I won’t be signing a new contract.Thus me saying I'm not posting from the POV nor do I particularly care for the intentions of the player. Though I very much doubt he''d be signing to United with his long-term intentions being "forcing a move". Again, Yoro and his team are aware United isn't a selling club. United has only done that once.
Which makes me point to the contractual security qualifier once more.
I am not sure they can, otherwise that would be a form of slavery, basically when a club "sells" a player to another club, they are selling their registration and being compensated for allowing the contract with their player to be rescinded, if the player refuses to sign a contract with the other club then the move cannot progress, you cannot force the player to sign a contract with the other club and the other club cannot register the player without that players agreement.... so no you cannot sell a player contrary to their wises, in any circumstance....A club can still sell a player against club wishes you know. Hence why I disagree with your two options.
Some fan you are. Noted for future reference. But you are annoying, you are right about that part. Give me United every time. There’s only one United.I’m a lifelong United fan who can’t stand Real, yet if I could play football and both clubs made me an offer, I’d choose Madrid. Sorry and all, but as a city for the family to grow up, it’s a no contest.
Bloody annoying isn’t it?
Sigh. He doesn’t have to force a move. He could simply say, I’ve been In Manchester already 3 years, I won’t be signing a new contract.
I’m a lifelong United fan who can’t stand Real, yet if I could play football and both clubs made me an offer, I’d choose Madrid. Sorry and all, but as a city for the family to grow up, it’s a no contest.
Bloody annoying isn’t it?
I’m a lifelong United fan who can’t stand Real, yet if I could play football and both clubs made me an offer, I’d choose Madrid. Sorry and all, but as a city for the family to grow up, it’s a no contest.
Bloody annoying isn’t it?
Yeah think I got caught up in the Euros drama. Have given my head a wobble and admit I’d never pass on United.I gotta say, you don’t sound like much of a lifelong fan
I’d take United every day of the week, and I’d have kids after football and move as a rich as feck ex footballer who lived out his boyhood dream to a much better city than shitty Madrid to bring them up.
If I knew United were in for me it would be a no brainer. Bucket list stuff right there.I’m a lifelong United fan who can’t stand Real, yet if I could play football and both clubs made me an offer, I’d choose Madrid. Sorry and all, but as a city for the family to grow up, it’s a no contest.
Bloody annoying isn’t it?
You’re thinking of it the other way roundI am not sure they can, otherwise that would be a form of slavery, basically when a club "sells" a player to another club, they are selling their registration and being compensated for allowing the contract with their player to be rescinded, if the player refuses to sign a contract with the other club then the move cannot progress, you cannot force the player to sign a contract with the other club and the other club cannot register the player without that players agreement.... so no you cannot sell a player contrary to their wises, in any circumstance....