What makes you think he’ll leave before the summer? He might want to win the league with his team mates.
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What makes you think he’ll leave before the summer? He might want to win the league with his team mates.
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And when we sign one anyway - he will say: No - I said, I(!!!) will not sign a player in january...it's not me signing players
This is in response to the following Tweet from José Félix Díaz (Tier 1):
Article in English: https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2024/11/15/6737a678268e3ea9798b4589.html\
The part about United:
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- Davies continues to reject Bayern Munich's advances on a new contract.
- The article insinuates that United are attempting to tempt Davies by offering more money than the other suitors.
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Official: Ruben Amorim brings 5 new coaches with him + an analyst
This is supposedly their modus operandi now and what they were expecting with Leny transfer. By all accounts we'd be paying silly wages if we get him. Would prefer an alternative where the agent doesn't shaft us. Which manager said to fergie "if they feel like they're doing you a favour by joining you, they'll act like it in training and on match day".
There are plenty of clubs who pay players way too much money and still get them to perform - even we did it from time to time under Ferguson. It's a question of identifying who's who - something we are not good at. But of course it's a much bigger risk when you are 13th in the table in the UK - compared to a team winning the C.L regularly over the last 5 years
Thank fook for that
Made a habit of disappearing to Miami during his Utd career so no surprise he's shown up there again.
Not a mistake Sir Jim or INEOS will make I feel….
Thank feck
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Not surprised at that, was always of the opinion we may as well utilise him as a squad player this season than let hom go for free but I certainly wouldn't extend the deal further.
Right decision imo. I think his place in the squad next season could be used by a promising youngster.
If true ridiculous. But it’s something we hear every year.
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Why ridiculous? Seems to me the club is now keen to break the cycle of the previous regime and build sustainably.
There has been heavy investment into the squad in the last few years now is time to make it work. ETH was criticised for his coaching, this guy needs to prove he is better. Amorim has said in his club interview that there is no ‘need time to build’ and that the players are here because they are good players and they should be ready. Let’s see what he does with that.
This doesn’t mean we won’t make signings, just that he might have to sell to buy and a bit more reliance on youth. If he sells the players that don’t fit in his squad I’m sure he’ll be able to reinvest. To me at least, this is the correct way to go.
He will need to bring in 3-5 players of his choosing to play his system and also undo the damage left by ETH, including wing backs if he wants to play 343 and a striker who can score goals.
Ineos: there’s untapped potential though
It will have to be phased or we will soon run into PSR trouble, especially if we don't make CL football. I am guessing that he will get around £100m net and that it will all go towards a CB and a striker so in other positions he will have to make do with academy promotions or players he rehabilitates himself on the training pitch.
If we want to be a top club, then we can't operate like that. We're not attractive enough to just have players see out their contracts to come to us for free, and great players are going to cost money.
Of course we could be lucky and snap up the next Salah on a cheap, but those chances are so slim, we can't be aiming for that. There is only so much Amorim can get out of players that just aren't good enough.
I’ve got some bad news for you - that is INEOS’s whole MO. Sir Jim has said as much. The focus is on youth now and finding the next Mbappe rather than simply paying hundreds of millions for Mbappe.
I'm sorry, but that's absolutely what we should be aiming for. What's the point in having this whole ass new structure with tons of scouts and analysts if we can't aim to find the next Salah on the cheap?
You don't just find the next Mbappé. These players don't come around often, and when they do, how exactly are we going to lure them from the top clubs? Make no mistake about it, Yoro was a rare case and it won't be the norm.
We can buy as many talents as we want. Very, very few of them will end up at the very top level, let alone Salah's level. City have been buying the players that fans have been screaming for us to sign over the last years. Agüero, Touré, David Silva, de Bruyne, Bernardo Silva, Gündoğan, Haaland etc. That's how you become a top team, not sign a random player and hoping he will be great. Absolutely no one could predict Salah would make the impact that he did, any way.
See Zirkzee. What is even that signing?
Mbappe was at Monaco. With all due respect to them, they aren’t a ‘top’ club. Haaland was at Molde and could have signed with us for €4m. Bellingham was at Birmingham, then Dortmund and we didn’t get him. Caicedo was available cheap if we took the gamble before he went to Brighton. These signings actually happen all the time, and our scouts were aware of all the players I’ve mentioned. It’s the higher ups that need to put faith in the coaches and scouts to make it happen. This is what INEOS will do.
Well, someone on Liverpool's recruitment team clearly saw something special in Salah, which is why they signed him. He wasn't just a random player either—he was a highly regarded talent that Chelsea had let go, similar to Kevin De Bruyne.
There are plenty of talented players out there who can be signed for reasonable fees. Zirkzee is also one of them. It's the coach's responsibility to unlock their potential and get performances out of them. It's also way too early to be writing off Zirkzee, especially considering he won the Young Player of the Year award in his league last season—the same award Calafiori, who everyone was raving about in the summer, was eligible for.
This also ties into the reports we saw today about untapped potential within the squad. I don't believe any of the players we signed this summer are bad—they’re all at a good age with room to improve. If Amorim can’t develop them, that would be a failure on his part as well.
We don’t sign ‘random players’. Thats what the scouting network is for! It’s more considered than simply hoping it works out.
what damage has been done by ETH that needs to be undone?
I think we're misunderstanding each other. These players were some of the biggest talents in the world before they were snapped up, which is what I'm saying we should do. All of these players were obviously going to be great players, and yeah, some of these examples were cheap transfers, but this isn't the standard. Look at how much we paid for Leny Yoro, for instance. I don't mind it at all, though, because he is a potentially generational CB talent, and these are precisely the signings we need to make even if it costs.
Haaland only wanted to come to us if there was a release clause included, so did he really want us?
Caicedo would not be given the platform to develop for us, and rightfully so. Even Brighton loaned him out at first.
I don't know. Zirkzee seems pretty random to me. Sure, academy product of Bayern and was decent in Serie A, but do we honestly believe he is going to be a world class player?
I agree. No need for major overhauls. The constant narrative of needing 11 new players for every new manager was one I never agreed with. However, the squad needed new additions to replace older players Casemiro, Eriksen, Maguire, Lindalof. If one or more of those replacements come from existing players or academy players then great or if Amorim can get a few more years from one, maybe Maguire great. But likelihood is that’s a mini rebuild.
Then we have the formation. Manager might need at least two or three players to fit his system.
So we’re still looking at a £150m summer, which is pretty much our standard summer spend. Hopefully now it will be invested more wisely. By the looks of last summer the does seem to be the case.
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It is all about finding a balance, unless you are city, PSG or RM and can just break the financial rules with impunity.
We identified and signed Garnacho from Atletico, we brought through Mainoo, and Amad too, all of whom have massive potential, heck even the much bemoaned Rashford is a huge talent (at times), McT was a youth product, technically so is Evans. We have Collyer, Amas and Obi-Martin who will probably all make some impact at the least on the first team within the next 12 months, and there are at least 6 more players who could step up in the next 18 -24 months, and this is in one of the most chaotic periods of the clubs history
Whilst we like a signing there is nothing like a homegrown player, ok we are not Brighton, Southampton etc... we cannot rely on blooding half a team of youth players each season only to sell them off the following.
There are still massive bargains to be had, for me Maz was the signing of the summer and is showing to be one of the best in his position, what was he £13m, De ligt looks like a fair purchase too.
Chelsea who spend money like water are a shambles, City are crooks, other than them we are the big spenders, and where has it gotten us! smart money is better than big money.
But even then the two most consistently successful prem teams of recent years City brought through Foden, Lavia, Simpson-Pusey (he-he), Cole Palmer, McAtee, Bob, Liverpool have brought through TAA, Coady, Elliott, Quansah, Williams, jones etc...
Right now if money wasn't an issue, if we could just sign whoever FM style, I do not see that fixing the problems we have, stick Gyökeres in the current team under ETH and he would probably have more goals than Hoijlund but he would still be struggling, famously he was a bit of a journeyman until moving to Sporting for only £24m in 2023 but given the right structure and coaching he is probably the hottest property in world football for the next couple of windows, with the right coach in the right system he has gone from somebody who when he signed for Sporting the fans here would probably have put him on a level with Weghorst to the highest scoring player across Europe this season, then take Zirkzee getting a lot of stick recently and rightly so, but he was a great player for Bologna, he fit the system and the league.