Red00012
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Clearly yet they’ve no actual evidenceZirkzee clearly wants milan. He already lives in italy aswell. I say we should move on
Clearly yet they’ve no actual evidenceZirkzee clearly wants milan. He already lives in italy aswell. I say we should move on
Simple answer; the player himself has basically said he won’t be distracted whilst he is in the eurosI mean he is not exactly jumping at the gun to come is he. I haven’t seen any reports of him wanting the move just that we want him. Its been reported ugarte wants to play for united, why not zirkzee?
edit: do you not remember the de jong saga?
Aren't Girona part of the City Group? Would they even deal with us?
Mount will be LIKE a new transfer?Agreed. But I’d prefer two midfielders, at least.
ETH's representatives must be contract negotiation experts, because there's no way I buy the idea that most of our transfer targets this summer being Dutch or having previously played in the Dutch league (yet again!) is a mere coincidence.Almost like keeping ETH under the pretence of him having no more say over transfers was a terrible idea
It is a coincidence though? Just so happens they're the cheapest on the market too for their relative position. Branthwaite playing PSV for season is hardly going to have a big influence with Ten Hag and Ugarte, Neves and any LB we've been linked aren't dutch or played in the dutch League.ETH's representatives must be contract negotiation experts, because there's no way I buy the idea that most of our transfer targets this summer being Dutch or having previously played in the Dutch league (yet again!) is a mere coincidence.
It's almost like trying to hire Tuchel and getting rejected for lacking ambition/stingy contract offer/diluted say over squad building (delete as appropriate), then forced into going back to Ten Hag and grovelling for forgiveness, has left Ineos with a big power deficit over the man they wanted to sack.
A couple of people said that when I made the point in the ETH thread that keeping him would necessitate a new contract. But of course I was right.
I really wish this was the case and the club wasn't so predictably fecked.
Has there been much to be positive about with our transfer strategy or our results over the last 11 years?You just need to have a day off from the negativity. Whatever will be will be.
We will end up like Barcelona when LvG bought all Dutch players to play for him. Ffs
Has there been much to be positive about with our transfer strategy or our results over the last 11 years?
That's where we disagree then. Relative to our resources and amount invested, it's been nothing short of an unmitigated disaster. All I'm asking for is a cohesive strategy that enables us to get a reasonable return on our investment - hardly "spoilt".Yeah there’s been positives over the last 11 years, just not as many as we’ve been used to. More than most other clubs mind so its good not to appear too spoilt.
That's where we disagree then. Relative to our resources and amount invested, it's been nothing short of an unmitigated disaster. All I'm asking for is a cohesive strategy that enables us to get a reasonable return on our investment - hardly "spoilt".
Didn't know Ugarte was Dutch
I agree on Zirkzee but not de Ligt. I think there's a lot of merit in that signing.Gotta say, i’m more reserved about our transfer rumours this years than the last 10 years. Most rumours, like de Ligt and Zirkzee i think would be horrible. de Ligt would be against everything Ineos said they will do, and Zirkzee looks underwhelming. Not really a big talent, and not really the finished product. Just… meh…
Trying to not be negative Nathan, but guess the last 10 years has made me ready to be positively surprised…
He hasn’t had the best season, but Locatelli on a loan could be an excellent squad option while freeing up funds for elsewhere.
Ugarte and Locatelli with Mainoo, Mount, Bruno and Scotty would give us great options for the season.
Is there anything in that article about United being interested? If not then this tweet shouldn't be in here.
Gotta say, i’m more reserved about our transfer rumours this years than the last 10 years. Most rumours, like de Ligt and Zirkzee i think would be horrible. de Ligt would be against everything Ineos said they will do, and Zirkzee looks underwhelming. Not really a big talent, and not really the finished product. Just… meh…
Trying to not be negative Nathan, but guess the last 10 years has made me ready to be positively surprised…
So many dutch players and players from their league and now coaches... It will end up in tears.
You work for the club don't you?You’re never right from what I’ve seen here. Just a miserable moaning bugger.
You work for the club don't you?
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Zirksee, as argued because he’s not good enough.I agree on Zirkzee but not de Ligt. I think there's a lot of merit in that signing.
They are getting Yoro who by all accounts we were looking at as well. And Real Madrid look to be in the business of getting players to sign for them on a free, they won't be spending any money on De Ligt.If De Ligt is as good as his wages suggest surely Real would be in for him? They’ll go for Davies next year and give him a huge deal. If De ligt was better than what they had he’d be going there next. There are red flags with this deal but we have to take gambles this summer. On the plus side He’s got leadership and bags of experience while still being young. Bayern fans love him and they aren’t going to be easy to please in general. To be fair saying that all Bayern fans on here would have probably taken Dortmund Sancho too. Anyway, I’d imagine this dude is a consummate professional and a winner so It’s worth the gamble
They are getting Yoro who by all accounts we were looking at as well. And Real Madrid look to be in the business of getting players to sign for them on a free, they won't be spending any money on De Ligt.
Yoro will probably go there for a similar fee this summer and Real will most likely end up with the better player getting all the plaudits long term but it’s easier look good in that team once you’re a regular starter. Saying that I think De Ligt is good and he still has some improvement in him once he settles down long term at a club. My feeling is If he signs he will be an important player for us. Future captain job.
Yoro will probably go there for a similar fee this summer and Real will most likely end up with the better player getting all the plaudits long term but it’s easier look good in that team once you’re a regular starter. Saying that I think De Ligt is good and he still has some improvement in him once he settles down long term at a club. My feeling is If he signs he will be an important player for us. Future captain job.
Pretty much this. Yoro would have already been a Real Madrid player if they payed up. Lille have also told that he is up sale. The only delay is Madrid don't want to pay up. Presumably having spent all their money on Mbappe.Yoro will either move late in the window, or on a free next summer. Real have said they don't have the money for him at the moment and asked him to wait.
Yoro will either move late in the window, or on a free next summer. Real have said they don't have the money for him at the moment and asked him to wait.
You still living in fantasy land
You work for the club don't you?
Good post especially the point about him being a calculated gamble. I wouldn't be against it all. Adding another experienced head in there (we lost Varane) along with a youngster in Branthwaite (also tried for Yoro) is a good move.If De Ligt is as good as his wages suggest surely Real would be in for him? They’ll go for Davies next year and give him a huge deal. If De ligt was better than what they had he’d be going there next. There are red flags with this deal but we have to take calculated gambles this summer. On the plus side He’s got leadership and bags of experience while still being young. Bayern fans love him and they aren’t going to be easy to please in general. To be fair saying that all Bayern fans on here would have loved Dortmund Sancho too. Anyway, I’d imagine this dude is a consummate professional and a winner so It’s worth the gamble. He’ll be one the other players will surely be excited and encouraged to see coming in.