Transfer Tweets - Manchester United - 2024/25

OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
Is this a new rule? If not, how do the Red Bull group get around it? Salzburg sold Sesko and Seiwald to Leipzig at the beginning of last season, despite both being in the Champions League.
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It's all about expensive lawyers working the loopholes. And we're still playing catch up with things like that so haven't successfully acheived it.

The rules allowd for years multiple deals between clubs clearly owned by the same groups - City, Red Bull, Brentford, Watford / Udinese / Granada, etc.

Just as we have got into that position to benefit as well, the rules have been tweaked for teams in the same European competition. Red Bull have managed to juggle things about to still get round it, even though there's clearly ownership links between them. And no doubt City will still get round it as well.

We need to either fight our corner or just get better at working round the rules, as it's going to be tough enough for us to catch up with these teams anyway, without us being disadvantaged by being less competent at playing the system.
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
Is this a new rule? If not, how do the Red Bull group get around it? Salzburg sold Sesko and Seiwald to Leipzig at the beginning of last season, despite both being in the Champions League.
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Could the issue be that we have people from Ineos working in management at Man Utd (Blanc interim-CEO)?
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
Is this a new rule? If not, how do the Red Bull group get around it? Salzburg sold Sesko and Seiwald to Leipzig at the beginning of last season, despite both being in the Champions League.
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Yes it’s new. Came in end of last summer or thereabouts. Can’t sell to a club with the same ownership if you’re playing in the same European competition is the gist I believe.
 
Von Mistelroum said:
Still completely bonkers to see this happening :nervous: this might be the ultimate case of rewarding mediocrity that we've ever witnessed.

The manager who finished 8th last season. The manager who set new, unwanted records regularly last season. Who showed no real signs of tactics or ideas. Who allowed 30+ shots on our goal last season. Who had MANCHESTER UNITED on negative goal difference after many humiliating defeats including finishing bottom of the CL group.

This guy gets a new contract, but we want to be where Madrid are? :lol: imagine Madrid having standards like this. They would be nowhere near where they are. Crazy times!
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You just know if Real Madrid finished 8th & won the Spanish Cup their manager would no longer be there never mind getting a new contract, have Man Utd's standards slipped so much that this kind of nonsense is going on?
 
Bertie Wooster said:
It's all about expensive lawyers working the loopholes. And we're still playing catch up with things like that so haven't successfully acheived it.

The rules allowd for years multiple deals between clubs clearly owned by the same groups - City, Red Bull, Brentford, Watford / Udinese / Granada, etc.

Just as we have got into that position to benefit as well, the rules have been tweaked for teams in the same European competition. Red Bull have managed to juggle things about to still get round it, even though there's clearly ownership links between them. And no doubt City will still get round it as well.

We need to either fight our corner or just get better at working round the rules, as it's going to be tough enough for us to catch up with these teams anyway, without us being disadvantaged by being less competent at playing the system.
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Red Bull use loophole in the German football rules. I think 51% or so have to be "members" so there members are 24 Red Bull employees they are not 'controlled' by Red Bull. Salzburg was restructured so they no longer have any debt to Red Bull or any Red Bull employees in their management/decision making structure. They are now for all intents and purposes just a long term sponsor (apparently...)
 
UTD_Since_1978 said:
You just know if Real Madrid finished 8th & won the Spanish Cup their manager would no longer be there never mind getting a new contract, have Man Utd's standards slipped so much that this kind of nonsense is going on?
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Difference is Real Madrid have been challenging for titles and champions leagues every season. We've not done that since Fergie has left. We are no where near where Madrid are. So we can't act like Madrid now.
 
lysglimt said:
35 million + Lindelöf. Not selling AWB until we at least have one more full-back in place
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Is the coming from a place of not trusting the club to replace him? AWB should be easy enough to replace. I don't think we should be holding back on letting him go.
 
So, he scores one goal against Germany & now he's the best thing since sliced bread in INEOS eyes, good grief. :rolleyes:
 
Highfather_24 said:
Why are we giving ETH a new contract? Surely will come to bite us in the ass when we have to pay him a huge severance fee when we almost inevitably sack him...
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I'm sure that they will have some clause saying if he fails to make top 4 for example, they can sack him without any compensation pay, surely?
 
UTD_Since_1978 said:
So, he scores one goal against Germany & now he's the best thing since sliced bread in INEOS eyes, good grief. :rolleyes:
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Putting aside it’s one Twitter poster paraphrasing another (tier 1) poster, why would you think Twitter is some sort of guaranteed truth?

The media haven’t pre-tweeted one major thing Ineos/SJR has done to date.
 
Highfather_24 said:
Why are we giving ETH a new contract? Surely will come to bite us in the ass when we have to pay him a huge severance fee when we almost inevitably sack him...
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Partly as some of our players jump on any reason to seemingly down tools but I’d guess they’d also use this as a means of changing some of the terms in Ten Hags current contract. For example, a new 2+1 contract but Ten Hags weight on transfers is removed… and maybe exit clauses.
 
diarm said:
Surely you see it? Like you hit post, and immediately realised what you’d done?
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It's clearly a joke referring to Cavani's (Uruguayan) "Gracias negrito"-post thanking Wan-Bissaka for an assist back in 2021 after which he ridiculously got a 3-game ban. People get so bent out of shape over nothing. Uruguayans don't need you guys to protect them from humour.
 
RobertoBaggio99 said:
It's clearly a joke referring to Cavani's (Uruguayan) "Gracias negrito"-post thanking Wan-Bissaka for an assist back in 2021 after which he ridiculously got a 3-game ban. People get so bent out of shape over nothing. Uruguayans don't need you guys to protect them from humour.
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What a shit joke.
 
RobertoBaggio99 said:
It's clearly a joke referring to Cavani's (Uruguayan) "Gracias negrito"-post thanking Wan-Bissaka for an assist back in 2021 after which he ridiculously got a 3-game ban. People get so bent out of shape over nothing. Uruguayans don't need you guys to protect them from humour.
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He wasn't thanking Wan Bissaka at all. That would have caused him some problems.

He was replying to a friend on insta.
 
Hal9000 said:
Difference is Real Madrid have been challenging for titles and champions leagues every season. We've not done that since Fergie has left. We are no where near where Madrid are. So we can't act like Madrid now.
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Not being Real Madrid level doesn't mean we're Sheffield Utd level.
Since Fergie our league positions have been 7, 4, 5, 6, 2, 6, 3, 2, 6, (TH appointed) 3, 8 in that order.
Goal difference have been +21, +25, +14, +25, +40, +11, +30, +30, +0, (TH appointed) +15, -2.
Winning the FA Cup does not make up for our worst league campaign in 34 years. On xPts we're 14th: On xGD we're -14.
His net spend is €360m.
These are facts; Fans backing the decision to keep him knowing these facts are actively sinking our expectations and ambitions to a mid-table club. Get a grip.
 
RobertoBaggio99 said:
It's clearly a joke referring to Cavani's (Uruguayan) "Gracias negrito"-post thanking Wan-Bissaka for an assist back in 2021 after which he ridiculously got a 3-game ban. People get so bent out of shape over nothing. Uruguayans don't need you guys to protect them from humour.
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diarm said:
What a shit joke.
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It's probably also referencing the recent fellow Uruguayan international, Rodrigo Bentacur's racial remark about Son Heung Min. After which there were quite a few 'not another Uruguayan!' type references to the Cavani incident on here.
 
Withnail said:
He wasn't thanking Wan Bissaka at all. That would have caused him some problems.

He was replying to a friend on insta.
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Oh, I don't know why I was so sure it was meant for AwB, thanks for enlightening me. Either way the poster is still jokingly referring to the Cavani case.
 
RobertoBaggio99 said:
Not being Real Madrid level doesn't mean we're Sheffield Utd level.
Since Fergie our league positions have been 7, 4, 5, 6, 2, 6, 3, 2, 6, (TH appointed) 3, 8 in that order.
Goal difference have been +21, +25, +14, +25, +40, +11, +30, +30, +0, (TH appointed) +15, -2.
Winning the FA Cup does not make up for our worst league campaign in 34 years. On xPts we're 14th: On xGD we're -14.
His net spend is €360m.
These are facts; Fans backing the decision to keep him knowing these facts are actively sinking our expectations and ambitions to a mid-table club. Get a grip.
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We've also won a trophy each of his seasons, after six years without one. That's also a fact. And his first season, where we finished third and won the League Cup under him, is as good as we've done post Fergie - as the other seasons we've won a trophy we've finished outside the top 4, and the other seasons we'd finished 2nd or 3rd we finished trophyless.

With underwhelming alternatives out there, and already so many other changes needed in a short space of time around the staff and squad, it was a valid enough call to stick with ETH for now.
 
Bertie Wooster said:
We've also won a trophy each of his seasons, after six years without one. That's also a fact. And his first season, where we finished third and won the League Cup under him, is as good as we've done post Fergie - as the other seasons we've won a trophy we've finished outside the top 4, and the other seasons we'd finished 2nd or 3rd we finished trophyless.

With underwhelming alternatives out there, and already so many other changes needed in a short space of time around the staff and squad, it was a valid enough call to stick with ETH for now.
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Domestic cups is a horrible criterion for judging a manager's probability of future success with a team. The fact that we won the FA Cup while performing worse than a mid-table club throughout 38 games, as well as finishing last in an easy CL Group proves exactly that. LvG finished 5th and won an FA Cup, no one wanted him to stay and rightly so. The capability to specifically turn up against top teams in cup games doesn't translate to general consistency and quality.
 
RobertoBaggio99 said:
Domestic cups is a horrible criterion for judging a manager's probability of future success with a team. The fact that we won the FA Cup while performing worse than a mid-table club throughout 38 games, as well as finishing last in an easy CL Group proves exactly that. LvG finished 5th and won an FA Cup, no one wanted him to stay and rightly so. The capability to specifically turn up against top teams in cup games doesn't translate to general consistency and quality.
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yea.

I agree. We should definitely have sacked Fergie after his FA cup win
 
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