Transfer Tweets - Manchester United - 2024/25

Drainy said:
What are they supposed to do? Risk a PSR breach to maybe finish a couple of places higher in a car crash season?
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Europa league and fa cup still available to play for. Without a new attacker, no chance of winning any of them.
 
DJ_21 said:
But they would have at least made the bench and been options. Now we’re left with none.
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We will have players on the bench. Don't worry. Bringing in Dorgu and showing 3 expensive reserves the door is not farcical. The club needs to reduce spending, especially on players who don't play. It's extraordinary that needs to be explained.
 
U-N-I-T-E-D said:
The thing is, the players we signed looked like decent players (and I don’t think they’re all that bad).

Real were sniffing round Yoro and I think he looks sound and a great investment. De Ligt is a very competent, experienced at the highest levels CB, Mazraoui was a bargain and is a decent player (albeit now out of position), Ugarte is a decent signing and Zirkzee was an absolute baller in Italy and looked awesome.

The scouting on these surely came back saying all of them were sound investments? Zirkzee and Ugarte both found it hard to adapt to the English league, Zirkzee still does and might never be a good fit but that’s something you can’t plan for.

The arguments of Brighton and Bournemouth signing decent players isn’t a fair comparison. Those players can go a little under the radar and gel into a well run club.

When someone signs for United there’s instant expectation for them to get us back to the good old days from the press, the fans and the club. They’re thrown into a ton of interviews and branding ops as the new signing.

They come to an absolute shit show where there seems to be another drama every other week where someone is a rapist, or wants to leave the club, or is out on the piss the night before the game, training in the woman’s facility because we’re doing up carrington, fans not liking any of the owners, a leaky stadium etc etc.

The morale of the club is on it’s arse at the moment and it feels like we could sign the best players in the world right now and it wouldn’t make a difference.

I think the signings have been far more sensible than previous summers (like the Onana/Mount/Hojlund summer). There’s a focus on signing great prospects which will either lead to brilliant first team players, or at worst improve our PSR.

I think Ugarte, De Ligt and Yoro would be shining if they were at Brighton, Bournemouth, Forest or Villa and we’d be looking at them saying ‘how come we didn’t sign those players’.
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Good reply - but I only partially agree with you. We signed players who on paper aren't bad players - but they are the wrong players for us. INEOS decided to keep ETH over the summer - and then sacking him when we produced more or less the same kind of awful results as we did before. And if INEOS had Amorim as their first choice if ETH were to leave, why sign a lot of players who would not fit a 3-4-3. They should of course have fired him right away.

And yes De LIgt is a good player - but if you have Maguire, Evans, Martinez, Lindelof who are all fairly slow - why sign another slow central defender ?
And if you have Bruno, Mainoo, Casemiro and Eriksen - why sign Ugarte who is yet another fairly slow central midfielder

As for Zirkzee - he did well in Italy, but he has never scored a lot of goals, and he probably never will.

So now we have De Ligt who has the same strengths and weaknesses as most of our other central defenders
We have Ugarte - and everyone can still run past our midfield as him, Bruno and Mainoo are too slow
We have Zirkzee and Højlund who are so bad - our manager prefers to play without a striker than using those 2
And Mazraoui - who doesn't fit in 3-4-3

Oh and Yoro who has been average at best - as you should expect from a 19 year old in his first season in the P.L - I still think he will come good though.
 
lysglimt said:
Good reply - but I only partially agree with you. We signed players who on paper aren't bad players - but they are the wrong players for us. INEOS decided to keep ETH over the summer - and then sacking him when we produced more or less the same kind of awful results as we did before. And if INEOS had Amorim as their first choice if ETH were to leave, why sign a lot of players who would not fit a 3-4-3. They should of course have fired him right away.

And yes De LIgt is a good player - but if you have Maguire, Evans, Martinez, Lindelof who are all fairly slow - why sign another slow central defender ?
And if you have Bruno, Mainoo, Casemiro and Eriksen - why sign Ugarte who is yet another fairly slow central midfielder

As for Zirkzee - he did well in Italy, but he has never scored a lot of goals, and he probably never will.

So now we have De Ligt who has the same strengths and weaknesses as most of our other central defenders
We have Ugarte - and everyone can still run past our midfield as him, Bruno and Mainoo are too slow
We have Zirkzee and Højlund who are so bad - our manager prefers to play without a striker than using those 2
And Mazraoui - who doesn't fit in 3-4-3

Oh and Yoro who has been average at best - as you should expect from a 19 year old in his first season in the P.L - I still think he will come good though.
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Exactly. We sign potential but the way you get these players to perform is to bring them into a team/squad that already works. You can't put 5-6 potential players on the pitch and expect for everything to just work. I'm sure most of the players we have bought would flourish if we sent them to pretty much any premier league club and they were minutes were managed slowly and carefully so they dovetail with the functioning team already there.

However, as you say, we have old players who don't have the legs anymore, middling players who don't have the desire anymore and young players who need time to grow. And anyone else can be argued to be the wrong player for the system anyway!

What a joy it is to be a United fan these days. I really hope in 10 years time I can look back and laugh at all this.
 
croadyman said:
Farcical letting 3 go and loaning none
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Dont think its farcical. All 3 players added nothing to the team and cost so much money in wages and fees. We lost nothing at all on the pitch and gained massively financially. And I'm against signing players for the sake of signing players. None of the players mentioned improve us or change our circumstances. Our current predicament is a direct function of the way we play. Its extremely slow and negative and no striker anywhere would ever thrive in this team right now.
 
Dannn411 said:
Dont think its farcical. All 3 players added nothing to the team and cost so much money in wages and fees. We lost nothing at all on the pitch and gained massively financially. And I'm against signing players for the sake of signing players. None of the players mentioned improve us or change our circumstances. Our current predicament is a direct function of the way we play. Its extremely slow and negative and no striker anywhere would ever thrive in this team right now.
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Its the sad state of affairs we are in, getting all these wages off the books before summer allows us to spend a bit more in the summer. It looks like we have no intention to bring in anyone unless its a cut price deal.

I think we will see 1 of hojlund or Zirkzee leave in the summer and we focus on signing a new striker.
 
pascell said:
Has malacia gone out on loan? Last I saw Benfica couldn't offer the right financial package.
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There is other suitors allegedly. More an if than a when however but Malacia looks a mile off it currently - you’d have to assume amass could offer more as a back up to Dorgu who we also need to ease in slowly and avoid hammering as with previous signings.
 
I don't think we'll sign anyone else. Don't see the point in signing any of the names we've been linked with anyway, since none would really improve our starting 11 or address our biggest concerns up front. We've seemingly shown no interest in signing Osimhen on loan, which is the only realistic option I can see that actually would have fixed our biggest problem. If we're not going for that option, might as well just keep the extra funds to strengthen in the summer and hope we don't get relegated.
 
As things stand I hope we look to the academy. Chido Obi Martin could make that step. And before any of you tell me that "he's not ready" - do you remember how Marcus Rashford got his first games and why?

My point being - we are in a dire situation (economically too) and Chido is banging in goals left and right in the academy. It certainly wouldn't hurt for Ruben to at least try to play him. What if he really is the answer to all of our questions?
 
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Amsterdam Devil said:
Evan Ferguson on loan to West Ham. Why don’t we try these sort of options?
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A 20 year old struggling for form and fitness that has scored 1 goal in 14 matches this season?

What exactly is the question you think he would be the answer to?
 
It ain't getting better lads with the current attacking options we have.

I'd say we will still struggle with remaining premier league games to come and most probably be beaten in most of them.

We really need to be getting in someone that can get us scoring goals.
 
U-N-I-T-E-D said:
The thing is, the players we signed looked like decent players (and I don’t think they’re all that bad). I think Ugarte, De Ligt and Yoro would be shining if they were at Brighton, Bournemouth, Forest or Villa and we’d be looking at them saying ‘how come we didn’t sign those players’.
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Agreed. The problem is the pressure they're put under constantly because teams don't fear our inept attack nor our press. Plus Ugarte is a one man midfield most games.
 
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