Let’s be fair. The glazers ruined us. INEOS have a right mess to clear up. They aren’t doing a great job but what they inherited is awful
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Rashford's done now. Don't see the point in the amount of toxicity people have been showing towards him frankly. He performed well for us for many years. I wish him all the best at Villa and all parties can hopefully move past this.
I thought Woodward was bad but some of the deals Murthough and Arnold agreed have put us on our knees. To put things in perspective we're rushing around on the last day of the transfer window because loaning out Rashford has freed up around 3m we might be able to use to find a warm body on loan to bolster our anaemic strike force.
Awful is where we are now, 11 defeats and 29 points after 24 PL games in their first full season in charge of football matters, INEOS current incompetence is making ED Woodward reign of being no lower than 7th and domestic and European cup wins look like he was at least competent as a CEO and we all know he wasn’t!
Play the kids!!
Woodward started from a far higher place, the years and years of mismanagement has led us to here, a bunch of mismatched overpaid primadonnas that are is inconsistent as I've ever seen from any team.
It was always going to get worse before it got better, as if people are thinking it was just going to be a case of new owners = completely different performances from the same players.
Was it? Not sure why that was a given.
We seem to be the only club where its guaranteed that things have to get worse before they get better apparently. Despite the fact that if you bring in competent owners and hire a good manager, things should probably start to look at least a little bit better in the short term. Which they did in the summer where it was declared that finally we had competent people handling transfers based on the fees we paid and players we targeted. Only for there to be a 180 as soon as the team started performing badly and it to be all Ten Hag's signings.
I understand why people throw out these sayings its likely in hope that the path we are on is the right one. However, there is just as much chance that Amorim is but one of a long line of promising managers who have come to the premier league and failed. Just as Ten Hag was once a promising manager.
For the record, I don't think things should have to be this bad for it to get better. A good manager would likely have shown improvements in performances and results by now, regardless of what formation they play.
Fair points but it would be interesting to see Klopps team in his first season and whether he had a defined style of play after the same amount of games. iirc there wasn’t one.
I think it's fair to say it was obvious it would get worse if we completely change our style of play, without investing in the squad and dogmatically stick to it.
Flippantly saying a cliché as if there was no other option seems disingenuous. This is a clear decision in my opinion and I hope it is the right one, but I feel like it's doing far more damage than anything else at the moment.
We are still better off with all three of them gone and nobody replacing them.
We’re also the only team that has players that find themselves outmatched physically every single game.
We’ve had a long stretch of poor recruitment and it’ll affect every manager that takes over us until the squad’s fitness is overhauled and massively improved on.
Yeah I fully expect the club to stick to their guns on no signings under 25 unless they are free agents or in last year of their contracts. We need a Falcao type deal out of nowhere for a loan striker before 11pm tonight but not gonna happen.
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You can't seriously say they have done a great job - they had a mess to clean up but to spend £200 million to make the team worse - is not doing a great job
Why was it always going to get worse ? If we had made just 2 quality signings in the summer - it wouldn't have been worse. But we signed Zirkzee who is awful, De Ligt who has been ok, Mazraoui who has been ok, Ugarte who has been ok and Yoro who has been ok (but at least is one for the future) - we haven't made a single signing who I would consider at least Good. They were in charge of those signings.
Mazraoui and de Ligt were very good signings for a fair price, Ugarte is a good signing. Yoro will most likely turn out a very good signing.
The objective of this season is to avoid relegation. Better not to sign anyone than make a. Stake.
That's very debatable. Rashford has one less goal in the prem than rasmus and zirzkee combined. And out form rashford still gets is ok numbers.
it worries me a bit that we're only seemingly ever linked with "potential" players these days.. the reports of us being lining up Quenda only re-inforce it.
Without sounding too much like Alan Hansen, we won't win anything with just kids, we really need a few players that have the experience and nous to get us points on the board while we wait for the kids to come good.. we've just signed a left wing back that is going to be learning on the job, and a bargain bin arsenal youth player that Wilcox is already talking about sticking in the first 11.. yet everyone who's watched him play for Arsenal have said he's nowhere near ready, I get that money is an issue, but we're acting like the poorest team in the league atm, we need to show some balls and start talking to players like Alt-Nouri, Cunha etc..
Without sounding too much like Alan Hansen, we won't win anything with just kids, we really need a few players that have the experience and nous to get us points on the board while we wait for the kids to come good.. we've just signed a left wing back that is going to be learning on the job, and a bargain bin arsenal youth player that Wilcox is already talking about sticking in the first 11.. yet everyone who's watched him play for Arsenal have said he's nowhere near ready, I get that money is an issue, but we're acting like the poorest team in the league atm, we need to show some balls and start talking to players like Alt-Nouri, Cunha etc..
He doesn't look as happy as I am feeling.
Makes you think doesn’t it.
Who would you have signed?
I literally said they aren’t doing a great job? They have made horrible mistakes.
Some players who actually improved our starting XI.
So what're we looking at here? Any chance we get a bit of positive news to close out the window?
Sounds unlikely, but maybe a loan of Tel or Nkunku.
We're trying to be disciplined about value and I don't think we'll commit to anything too out there to get it over the line.
Surely we have to get someone in to bolster the attack? We risk this season going catastrophically bad (Out of the cups, continuing to lose almost every league match) without at least another option
I have no idea - but I am not paid fulltime to keep tabs on players and have access to the biggest databases in the world. This is their job - they are supposed to be good at it.
And when you see the players Bournemouth and Brighton (to name 2) - can conjure up with 1/3 of our transfer budget - it puzzles me how we can spend 200 million on 5 players - and get worse
The thing is, the players we signed looked like decent players (and I don’t think they’re all that bad).
Real were sniffing round Yoro and I think he looks sound and a great investment. De Ligt is a very competent, experienced at the highest levels CB, Mazraoui was a bargain and is a decent player (albeit now out of position), Ugarte is a decent signing and Zirkzee was an absolute baller in Italy and looked awesome.
The scouting on these surely came back saying all of them were sound investments? Zirkzee and Ugarte both found it hard to adapt to the English league, Zirkzee still does and might never be a good fit but that’s something you can’t plan for.
The arguments of Brighton and Bournemouth signing decent players isn’t a fair comparison. Those players can go a little under the radar and gel into a well run club.
When someone signs for United there’s instant expectation for them to get us back to the good old days from the press, the fans and the club. They’re thrown into a ton of interviews and branding ops as the new signing.
They come to an absolute shit show where there seems to be another drama every other week where someone is a rapist, or wants to leave the club, or is out on the piss the night before the game, training in the woman’s facility because we’re doing up carrington, fans not liking any of the owners, a leaky stadium etc etc.
The morale of the club is on it’s arse at the moment and it feels like we could sign the best players in the world right now and it wouldn’t make a difference.
I think the signings have been far more sensible than previous summers (like the Onana/Mount/Hojlund summer). There’s a focus on signing great prospects which will either lead to brilliant first team players, or at worst improve our PSR.
I think Ugarte, De Ligt and Yoro would be shining if they were at Brighton, Bournemouth, Forest or Villa and we’d be looking at them saying ‘how come we didn’t sign those players’.
Great post and 100% accurate in my opinion.
The good old day have long gone, over 10 years ago, "We are Man United"... yes.. but we are also right where we deserve to be and its finally being sorted out, it will hurt a lot more before it gets better in my opinion.
All three look very solid despite the horrific circumstances
I think that something will come out in the long run. Another player will talk about it in a book when they’ve retired. My gut feeling is that there are off the field issues
Guys this is a tweet thread. Less discussion more tweets. Take the discussion to the individual threads