Transfer Tweets - Manchester United - 2024/25

Judas said:
This is quite the remix, so the people who don’t go to games are the less hysterical ones and have accepted mediocrity, when for years the narrative has been the opposite?
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Yeah I considered trying to deconstruct that but gave up.
 
There really should be an equivalent of Godwins law for people mentioning game attendance to support their argument
 
It rarely happens but sometimes you wish any new arrivals would be ready to join day 1 of the window opening!

But with all the faffing around 4, 5, 6 games can pass by while a deal drags on to the finals days.
 
Woziak said:
Let me be clear here MDL is a perfectly capable defender in a back 4 where distances are easier to measure, he has very rarely played in a back 3 where the distances are different and whilst he has the physicality and can go tight on a CF who is normally similar height 6’2/3 and quick but not lighting quick when he moves to right CB or LCB or One Pivot CB he will struggle because he doesn’t have the athleticism to go out wide and mark much quicker inverted strikers/wingers with quicker feet and a lower centre of gravity.

If you want to play a Mobile/physical Back Three, the two wide CB’s must be more used to defending wide spaces, which is why Mazraoui best position is Right CB, he has the pace and experience of defending that zone. Maguire will be exactly the same problem playing Left CB which is his favourite position unless we are dominating 75% of the ball they will both get exposed by fast counterattacks.

If we want to play this way and both would be pretty ok providing the club goes and buys a rapid physical CB like Diomende, M Ghuei, J Branthwaite to cover for their deficiencies, it didn’t help that Martinez is not very quick either and if Shaw could get back to 90% of his top level would easily be our best CB in a back three system.

MDL has a warriors heart and some games, he’s been fantastic, but he’s never going to get any faster now is he?

And the EPL is all about pace and intensity.
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You say de Ligt is slower than Magure in a previous post...

Matthijs de Ligt being slow is fake news. I'm not saying he's fast but there's literally been clips of him sprinting back and he's definitely not slow. There was a recent clip on twitter of him sprinting back in one of the recent games and getting himself back into position.

youtube.com/shorts/wmViL1ZMnA0

Here is a video of him sprinting against Chiesa who is extremely fast.

His speed is definitely good enough for a CB. Guy is faster than prime Vidic and Terry and they didn't struggle with fast players. You're right about him being more capable in a back 4 though. He doesn't get selected for Holland because they play 3 at the back. He was sold from Munich as Tuchel prefers 3 at the back. Ideally he does need fast players besides him. Yoro has speed but right now obviously isn't at the required level despite his huge potential. Hopefully he kicks on in a couple more seasons.

As much as I adore Martinez he's been wildly inconsistent since the end of his first season. He's not the same player he was in his first season. Obviously he's slow and his height lets him down. I feel like we need two more CB's with decent speed but also good at the aerial side of the game. Our main issue in defence is the aerial side of the game. Magure is good at that but unless we're parking the bus or playing counter attack football, he can be useless.

Aside from de Ligt we have no one that is good with aerial challenges as well as having decent speed. Hopefully we can find two CB's to play besides him. If Yoro massively improves then it saves more money for the other weak spots in our line up
 
iamdpef said:
You say de Ligt is slower than Magure in a previous post...

Matthijs de Ligt being slow is fake news. I'm not saying he's fast but there's literally been clips of him sprinting back and he's definitely not slow. There was a recent clip on twitter of him sprinting back in one of the recent games and getting himself back into position.

youtube.com/shorts/wmViL1ZMnA0

Here is a video of him sprinting against Chiesa who is extremely fast.

His speed is definitely good enough for a CB. Guy is faster than prime Vidic and Terry and they didn't struggle with fast players. You're right about him being more capable in a back 4 though. He doesn't get selected for Holland because they play 3 at the back. He was sold from Munich as Tuchel prefers 3 at the back. Ideally he does need fast players besides him. Yoro has speed but right now obviously isn't at the required level despite his huge potential. Hopefully he kicks on in a couple more seasons.

As much as I adore Martinez he's been wildly inconsistent since the end of his first season. He's not the same player he was in his first season. Obviously he's slow and his height lets him down. I feel like we need two more CB's with decent speed but also good at the aerial side of the game. Our main issue in defence is the aerial side of the game. Magure is good at that but unless we're parking the bus or playing counter attack football, he can be useless.

Aside from de Ligt we have no one that is good with aerial challenges as well as having decent speed. Hopefully we can find two CB's to play besides him. If Yoro massively improves then it saves more money for the other weak spots in our line up
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Mazraoui should be playing RCB, he has the height and (just from watching, no stats to back this up) seems to win nearly all his aerial duels, as well as having decent speed. Hopefully we can get a LWB in, move Dalot to RWB, Maz back to RCB where he can rotate with Yoro
 
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Let Napoli have Dorgu, let them pay 55m + bonuses on Garnacho and tell them to give us Osimhen for a cut price (45m) THIS WINTER
 
sepulturite said:
Don't start bringing up the whole "fans who don't go to OT" bollocks, I and others are just alot more realistic and patient than you clearly. There's an easy solution for you too with your season ticket, just don't go to the fecking games! Especially if it's making you the hysterical mess you seem to be in your posts on here.
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You are the one using the word ‘Hysterical mess’ sounds very much like our new coach after the Brighton Game where he smashed up a TV!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...en-Amorim-smashes-TV-Man-United-Brighton.html

This is the very definition of the Word ‘Hysterical’ ; I’ve never smashed up a TV in my life have you ?

Probably not, casting aspersions without having absolute proof, based on a few different lines of opinion to your own is indeed naive, so please reign in the rhetoric , I offer an alternative opinion, you don’t have to agree with it and nor does anyone else, I believe in giving all managers a chance , my point was and it’s clearly backed up by evidence of going to the stadium, the owners should not recruit a 3421 system coach and then expect him to turn this squad into 3421 system with superstar players, that’s not being hysterical that’s having an opinion based on watching the team eight times live under Amorim, and to be fair I never went to away games of City, Arsenal or LiverPool where the team actually turned up.

It’s important to remember in this day and age, we still have freedom of speech and we are all allowed to have different opinions.
 
Woziak said:
Quite a lot I watch Serie A regularly and he has potential but he’s very raw, he’s also great at coming from the right as well as the left, I just don’t see £35-40m when there are better PL options less of a risk for maybe same money or £5m more, for the record I said the same about Mallacia 3 years ago when everyone was raving over him at Feyenoord too. We’ve bought so many foreign players who fail?
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Just had a quick look on Transfermarkt at all of our Transfers/Loans from Prem or Championship since 2013:

  • Juan Mata
  • Marouane Fellaini
  • Luke Shaw
  • Morgan Schneiderlin
  • Alexis Sánchez
  • Nemanja Matic
  • Romelu Lukaku
  • Daniel James
  • Aaron Wan-Bissaka
  • Harry Maguire
  • Wout Weghorst (Loan)
  • Martin Dúbravka (Loan)
  • Christian Eriksen
  • Sergio Reguilón (Loan)
  • Mason Mount
I would say most on the list either underwhelmed or downright flopped. I think Luke Shaw is the only one I'd pick from that list as a long term success and even then I would imagine there are plenty of fans who would argue he hasn't been a success.

Meanwhile, the silver lining in what has been an otherwise terrible season for us, is a guy who we signed at 18 after he'd made only a couple of appearances for Atalanta in the Serie A.

I don't know if Dorgu is the right signing or not, but the issue isn't that we're signing too many players from outside of England. The issue is that we're usually signing the wrong players, whatever league they're coming from.
 
Woziak said:
You are the one using the word ‘Hysterical mess’ sounds very much like our new coach after the Brighton Game where he smashed up a TV!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...en-Amorim-smashes-TV-Man-United-Brighton.html

This is the very definition of the Word ‘Hysterical’ ; I’ve never smashed up a TV in my life have you ?

Probably not, casting aspersions without having absolute proof, based on a few different lines of opinion to your own is indeed naive, so please reign in the rhetoric , I offer an alternative opinion, you don’t have to agree with it and nor does anyone else, I believe in giving all managers a chance , my point was and it’s clearly backed up by evidence of going to the stadium, the owners should not recruit a 3421 system coach and then expect him to turn this squad into 3421 system with superstar players, that’s not being hysterical that’s having an opinion based on watching the team eight times live under Amorim, and to be fair I never went to away games of City, Arsenal or LiverPool where the team actually turned up.

It’s important to remember in this day and age, we still have freedom of speech and we are all allowed to have different opinions.
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If I was as well paid as Amorim I think I'd have smashed a few TV's this season :-)
 
Heffo said:
Just had a quick look on Transfermarkt at all of our Transfers/Loans from Prem or Championship since 2013:

  • Juan Mata
  • Marouane Fellaini
  • Luke Shaw
  • Morgan Schneiderlin
  • Alexis Sánchez
  • Nemanja Matic
  • Romelu Lukaku
  • Daniel James
  • Aaron Wan-Bissaka
  • Harry Maguire
  • Wout Weghorst (Loan)
  • Martin Dúbravka (Loan)
  • Christian Eriksen
  • Sergio Reguilón (Loan)
  • Mason Mount
I would say most on the list either underwhelmed or downright flopped. I think Luke Shaw is the only one I'd pick from that list as a long term success and even then I would imagine there are plenty of fans who would argue he hasn't been a success.

Meanwhile, the silver lining in what has been an otherwise terrible season for us, is a guy who we signed at 18 after he'd made only a couple of appearances for Atalanta in the Serie A.

I don't know if Dorgu is the right signing or not, but the issue isn't that we're signing too many players from outside of England. The issue is that we're usually signing the wrong players, whatever league they're coming from.
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Excellent post however only one of those players did not play in the EPL before we recruited them and success is relative.

Some fans would consider Mata, Shaw and Matic a success, some might even say Lukaku and Feillani were minor successes and Lukaku was light years ahead of what we have now even though his touch was awful.

Luke Shaw has been with the club 10 years, he had the worst injury any player could have with a double leg break in Holland, he’s clearly affected massively by this yet he has 2 Fa Cup Winners Medals, 2 Carabo cups, 2 Fa Cup Runners up, two Euro Nations runners up and EL winners and Runners up medal, he’s also got two PL runners up medals, there’s a lot of players retired who would be happy with that lot. I think it’s such a shame because Even at 75/80 percent he makes such a difference down the left to our team but yes some fans will disagree with that thought process and say we wasted £30m on him 10 years ago.
 
Heffo said:
  • Juan Mata - Adequate, did some special things, but not often enough
  • Marouane Fellaini - Meh and we got ripped off
  • Luke Shaw - Great, but bones of pretzels, maybe eats too many pretzels too
  • Morgan Schneiderlin - Insigificant
  • Alexis Sánchez - Paved the way for all sorts of shite wage hikes all over the shop. Terrible
  • Nemanja Matic - Solid, lost his legs quickly
  • Romelu Lukaku - Not as bad as most make out, terrible first touch, but a unit when he got going
  • Daniel James - Try Hard, put out a few decent displays, made a profit. I'd have him back as a backup RWB
  • Aaron Wan-Bissaka - So much promise, then we immediately shackled him, became timid, no threat going forwards. Left and is flourishing again
  • Harry Maguire - Decent, had that horrible dip, where we all thought he'd leave. Probably our best CB at the moment.
  • Wout Weghorst (Loan) - Nice guy, shit footballer
  • Martin Dúbravka (Loan) - Whatever
  • Christian Eriksen - Signed in the middle of a rapid decline in ability to move, still technically one of our best players
  • Sergio Reguilón (Loan) - I liked him, shown a threat for the other teams he's played for. Better than not having a LB
  • Mason Mount - Injury ravaged, if he can get back on track could be an important player. Methinks Chelsea knew he was done, our new Phil Jones
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Sunny Jim said:
reluctantly? :lol:
The guy has been pushed out since December by indos and now they act as id they dont want to sell him

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Only person who's pushed him out is Ruben. Lads not on a massive wage, so INEOS would probably prefer the Manager gets him to work.
I'd honestly say Garnacho has been off since that incident with that turd from United Stand and the fans giving him flack online.
 
Red_toad said:
Only person who's pushed him out is Ruben. Lads not on a massive wage, so INEOS would probably prefer the Manager gets him to work.
I'd honestly say Garnacho has been off since that incident with that turd from United Stand and the fans giving him flack online.
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What's this? I mean I get that Goldbridge is a useless gobby prick that thinks unintelligent is synonymous with "I don't like this" and would struggle to have a coherent opinion on whether giant rusty spikes make good seats, and the people that pay him any heed have so few braincells they can't tell their arsehole from a light fitting and consequently walk around with lightbulbs sticking out of their back passages... But what is the Garnacho issue?
 
The question is if we sell Garnacho so we have deals lined up for 2-3 players that go straight into the starting 11 and improve us overall?

If not then there is zero point selling Garnacho.
 


Source (Tier 2):

  • United are looking at their options for a Garnacho sale.
  • Napoli made a €45m offer and are pushing hard for the player.
    • No agreement yet
 
laughtersassassin said:
I'll believe it when I see it. And even if we do that, will they improve the team?

98% of our signings and ten times worse than Garnacho is.

So we'd need to be confident this time is different
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Yes I know. Pure lottery all we can do is hope.

Would like the striker to be Premier League proven (Cunha or Mbeumo)
 




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One last important bit: a new striker can only come in if United can free up/gain a lot of money either via an expensive homegrown player sale (Garnacho/Mainoo) or by letting one of their high-wage players leave (Rashford). No new signings are guaranteed even if United have a major departure or two.
 


Source (Tier 1):

Summit between Barça and Rashford's agents in Lisbon.

Meeting to update intentions... and to confirm that Barça is running out of time.

Key week, this, before Marcus begins to accelerate other options.

Matteo Moretto already commented that there would be new contacts.
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Source (Tier 1):

Today there has been a meeting between Rashford's agents and Barcelona in Lisbon.

Info reported in Relevo.

The Blaugrana club need to generate wage space to bring in the England striker, who will wait a little longer to sign for Barcelona before making a final decision.
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mazhar13 said:


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He should take a wage cut to play at Barca if that is his preference, he supposedly loves Utd, he supposedly wants to earn his way back into the England squad, he could generate some good will, but he has $$ in his eyes and fame on his mind, wants both
 


Source (Tier 4):

Manchester United are among the clubs to have made enquiries about Rayan Cherki in recent hours through his agent.

The Mancunian club are looking to replace departures in the attacking sector.
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Red_toad said:
Only person who's pushed him out is Ruben. Lads not on a massive wage, so INEOS would probably prefer the Manager gets him to work.
I'd honestly say Garnacho has been off since that incident with that turd from United Stand and the fans giving him flack online.
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Or when he reportedly disrespected his new manager within the first couple of weeks.
 
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