Transfer Tweets - Manchester United - 2024/25

[mazhar13]

I think it's the "here we go" bit that's new?

Bojan11 posted that exact Tweet earlier. There's nothing new.

 

[Semper Fudge]

I think it's the "here we go" bit that's new?

Nope. Post 8,417.

 

[Woziak]

Sorry but where is the evidence that SJR and INEOS are failing?

They have taken on an absolute train wreck financially, have invested as much as they are allowed, are greenlighting a brand new state of the art 100k seater stadium and sports/leisure village, are investing heavily in Carrington, not to mention the strings they had to pull and deals they had to make to accomplish summer transfers all of which are pretty decent especially compared to the shite we normally over pay for.

The one big error INEOS have made is keeping ETH in the summer

Seriously though what exactly are you expecting of SJR and how do you expect him to do it in the time that he has had capacity to do anything?

His record previously with Lausanne and Nice shows no track record of success in football;

1. keeping ETH was huge mistake
2. chasing Dan Ashworth, paying his release fee then sacking him 3 months later
3. Appointing a 3421 Coach without the players to play that way and no funds to recruit players he needs for that system.
4. As for the stadium, he’s not bankrolling that but instead will saddle the club with more debt. And let’s be honest he’s been talking about it for 9 months now, this will not get agreed until 2026 and won’t get completed to 2033, it’s a 7 year project.
5. The Glazers are Still here, are they not?
6. The summer signings, the jury is out Zirkzee won’t get more than 5 PL goals, Leny Yoro was supposed to be Rio incarnated and gets skinned by a Southampton striker, yes he’s young and might come good but there’s a reason Real would only pay £25m!
MDL has had huge chances at two big clubs and looks like he would be ok as 4th or 5th choice, he’s slower than Maguire. Mazraoui was a great signing but he’s no wing back and Ugarte could be good too but Ugarte won’t get you more than 1/2 goals a season and 1/2 Assists but yet your right INEOS hit home run after home run which is why the current coach averages 1 Point Per PL game and freely talks about the club in a relegation battle and the current side being the worst in our history.

The question is who is right and who is wrong, MDL, Mazraoui, Zirkzee, Ugarte and Yoro all started against Brighton and you call this a successful window, clearly our Young Manager does not share your Opinion?

 

[Zumbi]

You're still not describing a flop. You're describing overpaying for a player who then got injured.

“Flop” just means “to be completely unsuccessful, fail totally”. Which is an accurate way to describe Mount’s transfer. The definition of flop isn’t contingent on the cause of the failure. Could be ability, or attitude, or in this case, injury. His transfer is still a flop.

 

[Tom Van Persie]

Napoli scheduled meeting with Manchester united for #Garnacho. The negotiation gets underway

 

[mazhar13]

Source (Tier 1):


Lecce's preference is to sell the player in the summer, so they aren't willing to let go of Dorgu in January unless they get an offer that's too good to refuse (in this case, €30-35 million guaranteed + the rest in bonuses to make €40m).

 

[The Cat]

Source (Tier 1):


Lecce's preference is to sell the player in the summer, so they aren't willing to let go of Dorgu in January unless they get an offer that's too good to refuse (in this case, €30-35 million guaranteed + the rest in bonuses to make €40m).

Can't blame them.

 

[aeh1991]

You're still not describing a flop. You're describing overpaying for a player who then got injured.

A "flop" is something that fails completely or doesn't meet expectations. So, he's a massive flop. Good player and all, but another £60m and 250K a week just burned down.

 

[croadyman]

Disagree, he is a flop, he was injury prone, we could have signed for free in 6 months, but ETH buys him and doesn't get to play regularly for those 6 months and is still injury prone.

That is a flop in my books.

Yeah then would have saved £55m

 

[aeh1991]

His record previously with Lausanne and Nice shows no track record of success in football;

1. keeping ETH was huge mistake
2. chasing Dan Ashworth, paying his release fee then sacking him 3 months later
3. Appointing a 3421 Coach without the players to play that way and no funds to recruit players he needs for that system.
4. As for the stadium, he’s not bankrolling that but instead will saddle the club with more debt. And let’s be honest he’s been talking about it for 9 months now, this will not get agreed until 2026 and won’t get completed to 2033, it’s a 7 year project.
5. The Glazers are Still here, are they not?
6. The summer signings, the jury is out Zirkzee won’t get more than 5 PL goals, Leny Yoro was supposed to be Rio incarnated and gets skinned by a Southampton striker, yes he’s young and might come good but there’s a reason Real would only pay £25m!
MDL has had huge chances at two big clubs and looks like he would be ok as 4th or 5th choice, he’s slower than Maguire. Mazraoui was a great signing but he’s no wing back and Ugarte could be good too but Ugarte won’t get you more than 1/2 goals a season and 1/2 Assists but yet your right INEOS hit home run after home run which is why the current coach averages 1 Point Per PL game and freely talks about the club in a relegation battle and the current side being the worst in our history.

The question is who is right and who is wrong, MDL, Mazraoui, Zirkzee, Ugarte and Yoro all started against Brighton and you call this a successful window, clearly our Young Manager does not share your Opinion?

The last argument is very reactionary after the Brighton game. We won against Arsenal, Liverpool and City, so there's been positives and negatives. Yoro is still one of the best young CBs and convincing him to join us over going to Real a year later for free was a win. MdL has been perfectly fine and Mazraoui will end up at RCB once we signed a good replacement - we simply lack players at WB. Ugarte don't need to get goals or assists, he wins the balls and runs his arse off which is why we got him for. Again, the problem is that we're stuck with immobile CMs like Casemiro or Eriksen otherwise he wouldn't be overplayed. All of INEOS transfers have been decent and much better than overpaying for the likes of Antony, Mount, Onana, Sancho, etc.

 

[aeh1991]

Yeah then would have saved £55m

Wages are the bigger problem. Who the feck gives him 250k after his last season at Chelsea?

 

[croadyman]

Wages are the bigger problem. Who the feck gives him 250k after his last season at Chelsea?

Yeah proof our wage structure is broken

 

[SecondFig]

Why on earth would we loan out Hojlund or Zirkzee when we're already short up front and can't afford a replacement? I'd understand it if they were talking about permanent moves that changed our budget, but a loan isn't going to do anything

 

[mazhar13]

Why on earth would we loan out Hojlund or Zirkzee when we're already short up front and can't afford a replacement? I'd understand it if they were talking about permanent moves that changed our budget, but a loan isn't going to do anything

If it helps, that was reported by Mark Odgen, who's quite unreliable nowadays.

 

[Redfrog]

Sorry but where is the evidence that SJR and INEOS are failing?

They have taken on an absolute train wreck financially, have invested as much as they are allowed, are greenlighting a brand new state of the art 100k seater stadium and sports/leisure village, are investing heavily in Carrington, not to mention the strings they had to pull and deals they had to make to accomplish summer transfers all of which are pretty decent especially compared to the shite we normally over pay for.

The one big error INEOS have made is keeping ETH in the summer

Seriously though what exactly are you expecting of SJR and how do you expect him to do it in the time that he has had capacity to do anything?

Not buying any striker appart a false one who scored 10 goals in Italy and think you’ll score goals with the one you have is one of the dumbest decision I’ve seen.
Our main striker scored 2 in the league…that’s a worst record then teams who´ll get relegated.

 

[Redfrog]

You're still not describing a flop. You're describing overpaying for a player who then got injured.

So how you’ll call it ? Charity ?

 

[Woziak]

The last argument is very reactionary after the Brighton game. We won against Arsenal, Liverpool and City, so there's been positives and negatives. Yoro is still one of the best young CBs and convincing him to join us over going to Real a year later for free was a win. MdL has been perfectly fine and Mazraoui will end up at RCB once we signed a good replacement - we simply lack players at WB. Ugarte don't need to get goals or assists, he wins the balls and runs his arse off which is why we got him for. Again, the problem is that we're stuck with immobile CMs like Casemiro or Eriksen otherwise he wouldn't be overplayed. All of INEOS transfers have been decent and much better than overpaying for the likes of Antony, Mount, Onana, Sancho, etc.

Ok so when we sign Patrick Dorgu, who is Championship to Bottom 5 PL at best and he stinks the place out, because he will, his touch is shocking and then, only then will most of our fanbase realise that we have spent far too much money and invested in far too many players who are not PL proven!

United should be recruiting 75/80% of our players from the PL or upper echelons of the championship, we should be going after the best young British players like Morgan Rogers or Morgan Gibbs White, we should be looking at left backs proven in PL, I’d rather have Alt Nouri for 10-15m more than Dorgu or Tyrick Mitchell for the same value, keep believing INEOS are doing a great job and watch all these foreign import implode when they can’t handle the pressure of playing for United or the intensity of the EPL!

MDL is not perfectly fine, he doesn’t start for his national team at 25 because he’s not good enough, he’s error prone and far too slow for EPL. He is 4th/5th choice CB as he was for Bayern. He doesn’t start for any of the current top 6/7 teams in the EPL. Mazraoui is the only success story If his minutes are managed. You play a 2 man midfield but he doesn’t need to get goals or assists, tell that to Roy Keane or Paul ince when they played in a 2 man midfield?

 

[UnitedSofa]

Ok so when we sign Patrick Dorgu, who is Championship to Bottom 5 PL at best and he stinks the place out, because he will, his touch is shocking and then, only then will most of our fanbase realise that we have spent far too much money and invested in far too many players who are not PL proven!

United should be recruiting 75/80% of our players from the PL or upper echelons of the championship, we should be going after the best young British players like Morgan Rogers or Morgan Gibbs White, we should be looking at left backs proven in PL, I’d rather have Alt Nouri for 10-15m more than Dorgu or Tyrick Mitchell for the same value, keep believing INEOS are doing a great job and watch all these foreign import implode when they can’t handle the pressure of playing for United or the intensity of the EPL!

MDL is not perfectly fine, he doesn’t start for his national team at 25 because he’s not good enough, he’s error prone and far too slow for EPL. He is 4th/5th choice CB as he was for Bayern. He doesn’t start for any of the current top 6/7 teams in the EPL. Mazraoui is the only success story If his minutes are managed. You play a 2 man midfield but he doesn’t need to get goals or assists, tell that to Roy Keane or Paul ince when they played in a 2 man midfield?

How much of Dorgu have you seen to make this claim?

 

[dejans]

So. Any tweets?

 

[McLvnsMuse]

Realistically, we either luck into 7 cheap gems or we pause on transfers while we reset (lower expectations). Come again in 2 years with ample PSR headroom to get us the best in class players.

My radical proposal

- Focus on signing and developing young players from the best youth teams
- Get rid of the bad eggs and god awful contracts
- Find a way to spin the inevitable relegation battle with young players into a fun and exciting prospect for the match going fans

With Good PR we don’t let the media create clouds of doom and gloom. American sports teams periodically tank so then can get the best future prospects.

 

[croadyman]

So. Any tweets?

Best I can offer is Whitwell referencing interest in another position other than Dorgu is latest Athletic article

 

[Crimson King]

Ok so when we sign Patrick Dorgu, who is Championship to Bottom 5 PL at best and he stinks the place out, because he will, his touch is shocking and then, only then will most of our fanbase realise that we have spent far too much money and invested in far too many players who are not PL proven!

United should be recruiting 75/80% of our players from the PL or upper echelons of the championship, we should be going after the best young British players like Morgan Rogers or Morgan Gibbs White, we should be looking at left backs proven in PL, I’d rather have Alt Nouri for 10-15m more than Dorgu or Tyrick Mitchell for the same value, keep believing INEOS are doing a great job and watch all these foreign import implode when they can’t handle the pressure of playing for United or the intensity of the EPL!

MDL is not perfectly fine, he doesn’t start for his national team at 25 because he’s not good enough, he’s error prone and far too slow for EPL. He is 4th/5th choice CB as he was for Bayern. He doesn’t start for any of the current top 6/7 teams in the EPL. Mazraoui is the only success story If his minutes are managed. You play a 2 man midfield but he doesn’t need to get goals or assists, tell that to Roy Keane or Paul ince when they played in a 2 man midfield?

Feck me, chill out.

And Mitchell? As a WB?! Hmmmm, sure.

 

[VP89]

Ok so when we sign Patrick Dorgu, who is Championship to Bottom 5 PL at best and he stinks the place out, because he will, his touch is shocking and then, only then will most of our fanbase realise that we have spent far too much money and invested in far too many players who are not PL proven!

United should be recruiting 75/80% of our players from the PL or upper echelons of the championship, we should be going after the best young British players like Morgan Rogers or Morgan Gibbs White, we should be looking at left backs proven in PL, I’d rather have Alt Nouri for 10-15m more than Dorgu or Tyrick Mitchell for the same value, keep believing INEOS are doing a great job and watch all these foreign import implode when they can’t handle the pressure of playing for United or the intensity of the EPL!

MDL is not perfectly fine, he doesn’t start for his national team at 25 because he’s not good enough, he’s error prone and far too slow for EPL. He is 4th/5th choice CB as he was for Bayern. He doesn’t start for any of the current top 6/7 teams in the EPL. Mazraoui is the only success story If his minutes are managed. You play a 2 man midfield but he doesn’t need to get goals or assists, tell that to Roy Keane or Paul ince when they played in a 2 man midfield?

I was reading this post thinking wow this person might know a lot about the wingback.

Then I read the MDL bit and realised your evaluation is questionable, to put it nicely.

 

[Tom Van Persie]

 

[GwilDor]

Source (Tier 1):


Lecce's preference is to sell the player in the summer, so they aren't willing to let go of Dorgu in January unless they get an offer that's too good to refuse (in this case, €30-35 million guaranteed + the rest in bonuses to make €40m).

Napoli playing 3D Chess with the Garnacho-negotiations maybe?

 

[sepulturite]

Ok so when we sign Patrick Dorgu, who is Championship to Bottom 5 PL at best and he stinks the place out, because he will, his touch is shocking and then, only then will most of our fanbase realise that we have spent far too much money and invested in far too many players who are not PL proven!

United should be recruiting 75/80% of our players from the PL or upper echelons of the championship, we should be going after the best young British players like Morgan Rogers or Morgan Gibbs White, we should be looking at left backs proven in PL, I’d rather have Alt Nouri for 10-15m more than Dorgu or Tyrick Mitchell for the same value, keep believing INEOS are doing a great job and watch all these foreign import implode when they can’t handle the pressure of playing for United or the intensity of the EPL!

MDL is not perfectly fine, he doesn’t start for his national team at 25 because he’s not good enough, he’s error prone and far too slow for EPL. He is 4th/5th choice CB as he was for Bayern. He doesn’t start for any of the current top 6/7 teams in the EPL. Mazraoui is the only success story If his minutes are managed. You play a 2 man midfield but he doesn’t need to get goals or assists, tell that to Roy Keane or Paul ince when they played in a 2 man midfield?

My god you seriously need to chill out. This isn't the first hysterical post I've seen from you lately, maybe time to take a break.

 

[Tom Van Persie]

 

[andersj]

Andrey Santos in return would be nice.

 

[Tom Van Persie]

 

[Tom Van Persie]

 

[Tom Van Persie]

 

[Borussia Teeth]

Let Drogu go to Napoli, keep Garnacho, buy Alvaro back!


...sack Rashford

 

[croadyman]

Some no mark from Mirror linking us to Grealish

 

[WhatIsLove]

Let Drogu go to Napoli, keep Garnacho, buy Alvaro back!


...sack Rashford

Conte is fully obsessed with our players, even potential players.

 

[Woziak]

How much of Dorgu have you seen to make this claim?

Quite a lot I watch Serie A regularly and he has potential but he’s very raw, he’s also great at coming from the right as well as the left, I just don’t see £35-40m when there are better PL options less of a risk for maybe same money or £5m more, for the record I said the same about Mallacia 3 years ago when everyone was raving over him at Feyenoord too. We’ve bought so many foreign players who fail?

 

[Woziak]

My god you seriously need to chill out. This isn't the first hysterical post I've seen from you lately, maybe time to take a break.

No the difference is fans who don’t go to old Trafford have now accepted mediocrity for too long, what you see on the TV screen is nothing to what a live United Game currently represents, some fans will always accept this just like they sat there and tolerated the Glazers for decade after decade while others will call it out for what it is, decline and a rapid decline at that!

I still have my season ticket and right now the thought of them raising prices to £66 for this garbage and for kids to come and see is beyond hysterical, so yes, please use the word correctly in the right context in future!

 

[Woziak]

I was reading this post thinking wow this person might know a lot about the wingback.

Then I read the MDL bit and realised your evaluation is questionable, to put it nicely.

Let me be clear here MDL is a perfectly capable defender in a back 4 where distances are easier to measure, he has very rarely played in a back 3 where the distances are different and whilst he has the physicality and can go tight on a CF who is normally similar height 6’2/3 and quick but not lighting quick when he moves to right CB or LCB or One Pivot CB he will struggle because he doesn’t have the athleticism to go out wide and mark much quicker inverted strikers/wingers with quicker feet and a lower centre of gravity.

If you want to play a Mobile/physical Back Three, the two wide CB’s must be more used to defending wide spaces, which is why Mazraoui best position is Right CB, he has the pace and experience of defending that zone. Maguire will be exactly the same problem playing Left CB which is his favourite position unless we are dominating 75% of the ball they will both get exposed by fast counterattacks.

If we want to play this way and both would be pretty ok providing the club goes and buys a rapid physical CB like Diomende, M Ghuei, J Branthwaite to cover for their deficiencies, it didn’t help that Martinez is not very quick either and if Shaw could get back to 90% of his top level would easily be our best CB in a back three system.

MDL has a warriors heart and some games, he’s been fantastic, but he’s never going to get any faster now is he?

And the EPL is all about pace and intensity.

 

[Pexbo]

They know we need to sell to buy and that he’s a target. Therefore they want to panic into accepting a bid for Garnacho to close the Dorgu deal quicker.

 

[sepulturite]

No the difference is fans who don’t go to old Trafford have now accepted mediocrity for too long, what you see on the TV screen is nothing to what a live United Game currently represents, some fans will always accept this just like they sat there and tolerated the Glazers for decade after decade while others will call it out for what it is, decline and a rapid decline at that!

I still have my season ticket and right now the thought of them raising prices to £66 for this garbage and for kids to come and see is beyond hysterical, so yes, please use the word correctly in the right context in future!

Don't start bringing up the whole "fans who don't go to OT" bollocks, I and others are just alot more realistic and patient than you clearly. There's an easy solution for you too with your season ticket, just don't go to the fecking games! Especially if it's making you the hysterical mess you seem to be in your posts on here.

 

[Judas]

No the difference is fans who don’t go to old Trafford have now accepted mediocrity for too long, what you see on the TV screen is nothing to what a live United Game currently represents, some fans will always accept this just like they sat there and tolerated the Glazers for decade after decade while others will call it out for what it is, decline and a rapid decline at that!

I still have my season ticket and right now the thought of them raising prices to £66 for this garbage and for kids to come and see is beyond hysterical, so yes, please use the word correctly in the right context in future!

This is quite the remix, so the people who don’t go to games are the less hysterical ones and have accepted mediocrity, when for years the narrative has been the opposite?