Tom Van Persie
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I don't think either are good enough, Brentford always have less possession and tend to hit more on the counter and I think the minute they go to a team that has more possesion I don't think they will be as effective.
Jonathan David I keep pushing because while not being a world beater, he is free in the summer so we could get him pretty cheap now, cheap wages and has played for a side expected to dominate the ball in their league bar maybe against 1 or 2 teams
There are plenty of reports linking us too just nothing overly credible yet unfortunately.
https://www.sportbible.com/football...igning-liverpool-bid-rejected-400512-20250114 references TuttoSport
Unless we sign at least one LW, i hope not.But are they getting loaned?
Another hot potato at Barça: Ansu...with Rashford in sight.
The club pushes out the 10 thinking about making room for the Englishman.
He's too expensive for United to pursue this month.Why are we not in for Marmoush? City signing a really good player there.
Yeah Jonathan David is interesting shout, so if he's free in summer how much would it take now?
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Well he was on loan at Brighton last seasonI thought Ansu Fati was supposed to be the next big thing. Didn't it work out for him, or something?
the same reason you aren't currently buying a koenigseggWhy are we not in for Marmoush? City signing a really good player there.
Being a professional footballer isn't the same as working a regular job though.
Yes this is his job and Manchester United are his employers. But as a footballer/sportsman the most important thing to him should be actually playing the game, not how much he gets paid. Just because he's on X now doesn't mean that he is automatically entitled to that same amount of money for the rest of his career.
So no, no one would leave their normal job because their employer wanted rid, for less money. But normal people can also just hand in their notice and quit when they want, footballers can't; because they don't have a "normal" job.
He can show it's about the game and go somewhere else for first team football and a bit less money (how will he ever survive on only 8M a year though?!) or show that all he cares about is money and stay at a club who don't want him, and won't play him, for fans who hate him, for an extra few million quid.
Not enough space in the back?the same reason you aren't currently buying a koenigsegg
Yeah. It's very simple really, few people take a paycut to switch jobs willingly in the same industry/function.It doesn’t mean they’re entitled to x for the rest of their career, but they are entitled to x for the remainder of their contract.
A lot depends on what the priorities of the individual are. For some footballers it may be legacy or cups or playing lots of minutes. For other footballers it may be generating enough wealth during their short career to make their extended family rich for life. And fans can judge them for what their priorities appear to be, but that’s very unlikely to affect the decisions a player and his support team are going to make about what they think is best for them.
That’s their choice though. Comparing it our lives is nonsensical. We might jump to a new job for a 5k a year bump. They are choosing between rich and richer.
Nobody is forcing them to cancel their contract. They should be forced into making a choice between playing or not though. If you decide to leave Utd publicly the way Rashford has it’s not on Utd to maintain his pay check at the same level. Part of his choice to leave comes with the understanding that it’s likely for less money elsewhere.
And when you decide to leave you accept that it’s not for the same money. Contracts are broken by both parties.
Any player who leaves agrees a new contract with the team they are joining. It’s not like I leave my job and take £10k a year less and then ask my old employer to make up the difference.
So is comparing it to our lives nonsensical or not? Because if it is then your example of you taking £10k less and the asking your old employer to make up the difference is irrelevant. Like you said, the comparison with an ordinary job doesn’t make sense.
A player under contract is within their rights to see out that contract, or agree to terms elsewhere if the selling club and buying club can come to a transfer agreement. They are under zero obligation to accept less money elsewhere because they could just decide to stay instead.
That’s a good point, wasn’t aware he’s on a free this summer.I don't think either are good enough, Brentford always have less possession and tend to hit more on the counter and I think the minute they go to a team that has more possesion I don't think they will be as effective.
Jonathan David I keep pushing because while not being a world beater, he is free in the summer so we could get him pretty cheap now, cheap wages and has played for a side expected to dominate the ball in their league bar maybe against 1 or 2 teams
There are plenty of reports linking us too just nothing overly credible yet unfortunately.
https://www.sportbible.com/football...igning-liverpool-bid-rejected-400512-20250114 references TuttoSport
Yeah. It's very simple really, few people take a paycut to switch jobs willingly in the same industry/function.
You may move from some high pressure job to a lower paying career or industry, but if you're a doctor or a banker it's rare to switch jobs of your own volition to do the same thing for 25% less money or something. Most people will only move if the money is at least on par, or more likely only if they can get a substantial raise.
People can whine all they want about how much players make, but that tendency tends to hold regardless of job. Rich people care about money too, often even moreso than others. E.g., CEOs don't usually move to smaller companies for a paycut. It shows a poor understanding of human behavior to think many players are going to agree to a much lower salary to go to a different team; that's not how people operate generally.
Likely we will either have to 1) keep Rashford, 2) loan him out, or 3) subsidize his wages to get him out permanently. That's just reality. Lesson: don't give out massive contracts frequently, except to the very best players in the world. Even for those, make sure they're on the right side of the age curve (see: Casemiro) or it will likely end poorly.
I’m fine with them staying. If they want to leave then they can accept what the market is offering. Force them to decide what is more important to them.
I’d rather pay Rashford £15m/yr to be a bit part player than £5m/yr to play for Milan.
Because eventually they do get to play. It's rare that a player is completely frozen out.The problem we have is that most players will choose the bolded option despite claiming that they want to play
Injuries killed him, he never fully recovered to get back to his old form when he stormed on the scene as a young kid.I thought Ansu Fati was supposed to be the next big thing. Didn't it work out for him, or something?
Fixed that for you.Barca's over utilising an underdeveloped kid killed his career, he never fully recovered to get back to his old form when he stormed on the scene and needed protecting as a young kid.
The guy didn't even existI said it before. Jim Ratcliffe will sell the assets. We should have sold the club to Sheikh Jassim.
constant injuries and bad recovery choicesI thought Ansu Fati was supposed to be the next big thing. Didn't it work out for him, or something?
[The] Marcus Rashford topic.
The English footballer has not yet made a decision on his future. There is no deadline.
No financial agreement between Manchester United and AC Milan. Distant parties.
Barcelona are in the running and are trying to free up space in the squad to advance in the deal.
In the background remain Juventus, who have other priorities at the moment, and other Premier [League] clubs.
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25! Feck me he looks about 40.Mbuemo's stats are impressive. 13 goals and 3 assists this season in 21 PL games.
Also 9 goals and 6 assists in 25 PL games last season.
25 years of age - I thought he was older than that
The guy didn't even exist
It was tongue in cheek, but there was clearly something fishing about this guy and his fundsHave heard that said by strong Utd sources, however if that's the case how did he get so far in the process
I dunno. He’s clearly not favored by the current manager. And it’s been reported he wants in the England squad. So he’s in a bit of a conundrum.Will end up staying.
Classic, look to be trying to leave but don't go far enough to actually leave and oh dear look it's too late.
Probably get a small loan fee, offload wages for the rest of the season thus having an effect on PSR and making the player more saleable should they play well.what is the benefit of loaning out bunch of players, doesn't give us funds to replace them, we're just weakening the team.
Probably does squad harmony a bit of good by having the malcontents far away.what is the benefit of loaning out bunch of players, doesn't give us funds to replace them, we're just weakening the team.
Perhaps they should both pi55 of to America again, keep their attitudes away from the rest of the players.Amorin is doing the right thing and shouldn’t bow to pressure. If Casemiro and Rashford have both decided to hold out for better personal terms by running down their contracts then I’m afraid there’s little we can do until the summer at least.
I thought Ansu Fati was supposed to be the next big thing. Didn't it work out for him, or something?
One of the most talented players until he got a terrible injury. He hasn’t‘t been the same since, a real shame.He keeps getting injured.
Not sure of the reliability of Bild
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One of the most talented players until he got a terrible injury. He hasn’t‘t been the same since, a real shame.