Transfer Tweets - Manchester United - 2024/25

sparx99 said:
Totally agree with this. Why is accepting £150-200k a week to play where you want such a non-starter? Accept that you got overpaid for a couple years but if you want a move that means less salary. Or don’t play football. There is this weird narrative that once a player gets a certain pay check it can only be at that level or higher.
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Not sure I agree with this. Let’s say you get overpaid at your job. You might be trying your hardest at work, but say your employer doesn’t rate your work anymore, would you agree to quit because you got overpaid and save some money for your employer?
 
iKnowNothing said:
Not sure I agree with this. Let’s say you get overpaid at your job. You might be trying your hardest at work, but say your employer doesn’t rate your work anymore, would you agree to quit because you got overpaid and save some money for your employer?
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If you are close to retirement age, you may want to stick around: you’ll never get the same money elsewhere. If I was younger, I‘d want to work somewhere else where my work would be appreciated.
 
sparx99 said:
Totally agree with this. Why is accepting £150-200k a week to play where you want such a non-starter? Accept that you got overpaid for a couple years but if you want a move that means less salary. Or don’t play football. There is this weird narrative that once a player gets a certain pay check it can only be at that level or higher.
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They have a contract for that salary for a number of years into the future and would likely have factored that into their plans.

Would you just take a pay-cut if your employer decided they wanted to cut your contract short and was trying to get rid of you?

I absolutely doubt that you would.
 
Withnail said:
They have a contract for that salary for a number of years into the future and would likely have factored that into their plans.

Would you just take a pay-cut if your employer decided they wanted to cut your contract short and was trying to get rid of you?

I absolutely doubt that you would.
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That’s their choice though. Comparing it our lives is nonsensical. We might jump to a new job for a 5k a year bump. They are choosing between rich and richer.

Nobody is forcing them to cancel their contract. They should be forced into making a choice between playing or not though. If you decide to leave Utd publicly the way Rashford has it’s not on Utd to maintain his pay check at the same level. Part of his choice to leave comes with the understanding that it’s likely for less money elsewhere.
 
Withnail said:
They have a contract for that salary for a number of years into the future and would likely have factored that into their plans.

Would you just take a pay-cut if your employer decided they wanted to cut your contract short and was trying to get rid of you?

I absolutely doubt that you would.
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Being a professional footballer isn't the same as working a regular job though.

Yes this is his job and Manchester United are his employers. But as a footballer/sportsman the most important thing to him should be actually playing the game, not how much he gets paid. Just because he's on X now doesn't mean that he is automatically entitled to that same amount of money for the rest of his career.

So no, no one would leave their normal job because their employer wanted rid, for less money. But normal people can also just hand in their notice and quit when they want, footballers can't; because they don't have a "normal" job.

He can show it's about the game and go somewhere else for first team football and a bit less money (how will he ever survive on only 8M a year though?!) or show that all he cares about is money and stay at a club who don't want him, and won't play him, for fans who hate him, for an extra few million quid.
 
Withnail said:
They have a contract for that salary for a number of years into the future and would likely have factored that into their plans.

Would you just take a pay-cut if your employer decided they wanted to cut your contract short and was trying to get rid of you?

I absolutely doubt that you would.
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And when you decide to leave you accept that it’s not for the same money. Contracts are broken by both parties.

Any player who leaves agrees a new contract with the team they are joining. It’s not like I leave my job and take £10k a year less and then ask my old employer to make up the difference.
 
Rashford need to be careful here , Ineos in their brief stay have shown they aren't afraid of bad press things could turn real uncomfortable and nasty for him if he doesn't move .
 
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sparx99 said:
That’s their choice though. Comparing it our lives is nonsensical. We might jump to a new job for a 5k a year bump. They are choosing between rich and richer.

Nobody is forcing them to cancel their contract. They should be forced into making a choice between playing or not though. If you decide to leave Utd publicly the way Rashford has it’s not on Utd to maintain his pay check at the same level. Part of his choice to leave comes with the understanding that it’s likely for less money elsewhere.
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Only because you think footballers are some kind of special case. They're not. They're people with lucrative though very short careers and many don't hold on to their wealth after retirement.

He said that about leaving after the club made noises they were looking to get rid and while I don't think it was the smartest move it was said in that context.

I'm not sure what you mean by playing or not playing. He'd play tomorrow if picked but Amorim isn't putting him in the pitch. Not that I have any issue that decision.

He has a contract and he gets to decide if he wants to take another club up on their offer and yes United do have to keep paying him.

dazjoe said:
Being a professional footballer isn't the same as working a regular job though.

Yes this is his job and Manchester United are his employers. But as a footballer/sportsman the most important thing to him should be actually playing the game, not how much he gets paid. Just because he's on X now doesn't mean that he is automatically entitled to that same amount of money for the rest of his career.

So no, no one would leave their normal job because their employer wanted rid, for less money. But normal people can also just hand in their notice and quit when they want, footballers can't; because they don't have a "normal" job.

He can show it's about the game and go somewhere else for first team football and a bit less money (how will he ever survive on only 8M a year though?!) or show that all he cares about is money and stay at a club who don't want him, and won't play him, for fans who hate him, for an extra few million quid.
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He's not entitled to anything for the remainder of his career but he's entitled to his current wages for the remaining length of his contract. We can't force him to take up an offer from anyone and he's well within his rights to hang on regardless of how annoying we find it. There could well be more suitable offers in the Summer.



sparx99 said:
And when you decide to leave you accept that it’s not for the same money. Contracts are broken by both parties.

Any player who leaves agrees a new contract with the team they are joining. It’s not like I leave my job and take £10k a year less and then ask my old employer to make up the difference.
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Nobody has left though. That's the point. I think it would be better that he goes obviously but he doesn't have to agree to go somewhere he doesn't want to go.
 
Dont know what will happen, but Ruben used to give extra time and opportunities for kids who take their chances on first team, and show personality.

The context for Collyer to go in and give a performance was hard. At the same time, he was never at fault, because of the sent off. Maybe he has the right mentality, and we will see more of him.

Dont think it was a physical thing, but it cant hurt that he ran more that Casemiro and Ericksen combined.
 
Posh Red said:
Less than a year in? Seems a bit reactionary.
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They have form for going in trying to make radical changes, not paying stewards £50 Xmas bonuses, firing most of the staff and creating a cultural reset, they did the same with Lausanne and Nice then they stumble to mediocrity, Lausanne and Nice have not once contested a domestic title, Lausanne were relegated under INEOS. This old fashioned draconian method of management has yet to prove that it can be successful and just creates a negative vibe around the club!

SJR won both domestic FA cups for Women and Men last year but none of that success was anything to do with INEOS.

Nice are a a yo yo team flipping from 9th to 5th to 9th to 5th!

Please someone show me something different with INEOS and their football teams, show me they have competed domestically and in Europe?
 
Good call to keep Collyer around, United need to use the squad/academy players more often.

It’s cheaper to use them as the 4th/5th substitutes and the difference isn’t even that great when the alternatives are the aging legs of Eriksen and Casemiro.
 
sparx99 said:
Totally agree with this. Why is accepting £150-200k a week to play where you want such a non-starter? Accept that you got overpaid for a couple years but if you want a move that means less salary. Or don’t play football. There is this weird narrative that once a player gets a certain pay check it can only be at that level or higher.
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The problem we have is that most players will choose the bolded option despite claiming that they want to play
 
VP89 said:
He's not really a striker
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hellhunter said:
Because he's really not that good.
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ColvaleGoa said:
He would not be the ideal profile we were looking for. Waste of money I would think
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Agree with all of you that he’s probably not that good. But he’s most likely an upgrade on our current striker portfolio. And there don’t seem to be any alternatives available on the market for this window.

So if you look at it
> We have all to play for this season.
> We desperately need a striker.
> He’s a significant improvement (most likely).
> He’s available for little money, and
> there are no/ few alternatives.
So why not?

I would have got him on loan for half a year, with an option to buy. In the summer we could then see if he would be worth it for us to continue with (it’s not a shame to not make it at PSG, see Ugarte) or to get one of our actual targets (Osimhen, Gyokeres, etc) in.
But I guess that won’t happen anyway.

Just hope we’ll still find a striker and LWB this window
 
Shabby as she goes said:
Agree with all of you that he’s probably not that good. But he’s most likely an upgrade on our current striker portfolio. And there don’t seem to be any alternatives available on the market for this window.

So if you look at it
> We have all to play for this season.
> We desperately need a striker.
> He’s a significant improvement (most likely).
> He’s available for little money, and
> there are no/ few alternatives.
So why not?

I would have got him on loan for half a year, with an option to buy. In the summer we could then see if he would be worth it for us to continue with (it’s not a shame to not make it at PSG, see Ugarte) or to get one of our actual targets (Osimhen, Gyokeres, etc) in.
But I guess that won’t happen anyway.

Just hope we’ll still find a striker and LWB this window
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He's not an upgrade on Hojlund or Zirkzee.
 
VP89 said:
He's not an upgrade on Hojlund or Zirkzee.
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It's at least questionable if he would be. So any minutes given to him may not improve us as a team and hinder any kind of hope we have for Hojlund and Zirkzee. Maybe I'm being harsh on the guy, but I just don't rate him
 
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hellhunter said:
It's at least questionable if he would by. So any minutes given to him may not improve us as a team and hinder any kind of hope we have for Hojlund and Zirkzee. Maybe I'm being harsh on the guy, but I just don't rate him
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Doesn't he have 2 goals this season? He had 9 in 40 last season.

So as a striker at least he's certainly not better than what we have.
 
I wonder how much Mbeumo would cost? Would be a good transfer for a decent fee but I don't see Brentford wanting to lose him - especially in January.
 
Either one of Mbeumo or Wissa would be great signings, both fantastic players.
 
Mbuemo's stats are impressive. 13 goals and 3 assists this season in 21 PL games.

Also 9 goals and 6 assists in 25 PL games last season.

25 years of age - I thought he was older than that
 
Sivorid said:
I wonder how much Mbeumo would cost? Would be a good transfer for a decent fee but I don't see Brentford wanting to lose him - especially in January.
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I saw a 42m pound figure. For me, that's a no brainer. However, I expect the figure for him to be around 60-70.
 
He plays in Amad's position right? unless Amad going back to Wing back/RM (which i feel he performs better than as a 10)
 
Blood Mage said:
Either one of Mbeumo or Wissa would be great signings, both fantastic players.
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I don't think either are good enough, Brentford always have less possession and tend to hit more on the counter and I think the minute they go to a team that has more possesion I don't think they will be as effective.

Jonathan David I keep pushing because while not being a world beater, he is free in the summer so we could get him pretty cheap now, cheap wages and has played for a side expected to dominate the ball in their league bar maybe against 1 or 2 teams

There are plenty of reports linking us too just nothing overly credible yet unfortunately.

https://www.sportbible.com/football...igning-liverpool-bid-rejected-400512-20250114 references TuttoSport
 
Thomas frank was pretty clear mbuemo is going nowhere, in post match interview yday, for what it's worth.
 
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