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It's always fun to see the same person commenting on different accounts to give themselves support.
No I agree, he's the best of a bad bunch and if I had a gun to my head and had to be an Englishman that's who i'd choose.Even Eddie isn't that good.
International football is quite boring nowadays so Tuchel's style fits in quite well.Don't expect shit tons of goals from tuchel England team. It will be one or 2 goals win at most.
It is quite amusing. No English manager has ever won the PL, quite a bit of the royal family is of German descent and there also might be a hint in the word "Anglo-Saxon"...I seriously can't understand the issue of him being German. I mean really, who gives a shit? As long as he gets England playing well and winning, that's all that matters.
Does anybody else find it ironic that those complaining about him being foreign, are probably supporters of teams with foreign managers! The Prem is full of them, Spanish, Dutch, German, Austrain, Portuguese, Scottish even...but England must have an English manager??
Give me a break.
Truly incredible how this has triggered some of these supposed pundits. Just having a wild guess but I'd presume It's because none of them are particularly standing out Danny.
Don't know about Carragher, but what I read from Neville boils down to complaining "Why is there no English manager I can respect as much as Tuchel?" I don't see him saying Tuchel is a bad choice that he doesn't respect.He isn't the only one, have a look at Neville, Carragher calling it an embarrassment. When former players speak out in those terms, shows you why Capello and Sven never managed to win things and didn't succeed.
English players then had no respect for these managers because they were not english.
Its a shame really, who cares what nationality the coach is? It just means England have a better chance of winning something.
Don't know about Carragher, but what I read from Neville boils down to complaining "Why is there no English manager I can respect as much as Tuchel?" I don't see him saying Tuchel is a bad choice that he doesn't respect.
It wouldn't. But who cares? This is just a chance for German yellow press to make fun of British yellow press. This kind of reaction made English football a laughingstock in Germany now. Not the appointment itself, which is seen as a very good and sensible choice and reason to take the English national team seriously.Would the complaining be the same if we appointed a Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish manager?
Would it be the same if we appointed Big Ange mate?
The funny thing is, if you ask these pundits who should get jobs, they'll probably say people should get them on merit but when it comes to football people should just get a job because of where they were born or their passport.It wouldn't. But who cares? This is just a chance for German yellow press to make fun of British yellow press. This kind of reaction made English football a laughingstock in Germany now. Not the appointment itself, which is seen as a very good and sensible choice and reason to take the English national team seriously.
True.The funny thing is, if you ask these pundits who should get jobs, they'll probably say people should get them on merit but when it comes to football people should just get a job because of where they were born or their passport.
I think the point you‘re making misses the criticism a bit. National teams are exclusionary by nature and the idea is, that they should be somewhat representative of their countries. And I don’t think it’s absurd or far fetched if people prefer the manager, who is usually the person who gives most interviews and so on, to be of the nationality the team represents.The funny thing is, if you ask these pundits who should get jobs, they'll probably say people should get them on merit but when it comes to football people should just get a job because of where they were born or their passport.
I thought the outrage from the pundits were all memes.
It's shocking that the English believe only an English manager should lead their team.
If you are shocked that the Daily Mail doesn't want a foreigner to have a good job in England, you have not been paying attention.
Mostly surprised with the likes of Carragher and Neville.
Would they have the same reaction if Fergie had taken the job when he was offered it?
There simply is no history of rivalry between Germany and England, which is why Germans don't care.They took your jerbs.... even NT manager position...
Anyway the ony way I see this being problematic for the Germans is if he managed to win something or knock Germany out.
If neither happens then nothing will happen. Football fans these days are more desensitized when it comes into history and rivalry. They just do it for the memes most of the times.
In the media i don't think there was much objection apart from a few outliers, social media wasn't really a thing so you didn't get exposed to as many opinions but anecdotally I can't remember people saying we need an English manager. The same for Sven except that time it was the first time.What was the reaction when Capello got the job? And is this still lingering resentment from WW2?
What was the reaction when Capello got the job? And is this still lingering resentment from WW2?
As if these self-important pundits weren't absolutely embarrassing at coaching themselves, if they were any good would England need to hire foreigners? Neville got the Valencia gig via nepotism and proved that so-called "top football pundits" are basically empty vessels who make noise. Contrast that to Tuchel or Nagelsmann who carved out coaching careers despite not being famous or having doors opened. These top English ex-pros yap about Johnny Foreigner when the real problem is why all of them lack the capability to coach a top team and are only good as talking heads on TVHe isn't the only one, have a look at Neville, Carragher calling it an embarrassment.
What are the other reasons? Genuinely curious.England v Germany is a rivalry (for England fans at least). There's a few reasons and lingering resentment from wars is of course one of them.
Didn't he literally play under a foreign coach for England?
What are the other reasons? Genuinely curious.
It’s a bit odd to not be over historical factors like that yet. Denmark was occupied by Germany for most of WW2 and we had a German head coach in the 1980’s - that was before my time, but never heard it described as a problem.
Obviously the two examples are not directly comparable as England was much more directly engaged in the war, including being heavily bombed. Still, seems odd to me, even if it’s just a vocal minority.
The real problem is why can't we produce managers/coaches that are capable of being at the top of their profession?Dunno why a lot of people are against this because he isn’t English. If he wins us a euro or a world cup I’m pretty sure the likes of Carragher etc will be quiet then and praising him.
Two commonly sung England songs are 10 German Bombers and Two World Wars & One World Cup* if that tells you anything.What was the reaction when Capello got the job? And is this still lingering resentment from WW2?
As if these self-important pundits weren't absolutely embarrassing at coaching themselves, if they were any good would England need to hire foreigners? Neville got the Valencia gig via nepotism and proved that so-called "top football pundits" are basically empty vessels who make noise. Contrast that to Tuchel or Nagelsmann who carved out coaching careers despite not being famous or having doors opened. These top English ex-pros yap about Johnny Foreigner when the real problem is why all of them lack the capability to coach a top team and are only good as talking heads on TV
So it's a hangover from the first world war?Italia 90 semi finals.
Euro 96 semi finals.
That's just the football side of things.
Anti-german sentiment has been a thing in England for over 100 years, it's not just a hangover from the second world war. The royal family changed their name in 1917 because of it.
Well, this makes me sad.
So it's a hangover from the first world war?
Just read through a few pieces - absolutely hilarious He might have to defend himself if they win WC 2026 even. The same press/collective mindset that made you choose Brexit.As if these self-important pundits weren't absolutely embarrassing at coaching themselves, if they were any good would England need to hire foreigners? Neville got the Valencia gig via nepotism and proved that so-called "top football pundits" are basically empty vessels who make noise. Contrast that to Tuchel or Nagelsmann who carved out coaching careers despite not being famous or having doors opened. These top English ex-pros yap about Johnny Foreigner when the real problem is why all of them lack the capability to coach a top team and are only good as talking heads on TV