The Veron Knockers!

actually from what i've seen Richardson is more like Lee Sharpe..


he was awesome even as a fledgling... shame the wanker threw it all away :(
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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No-one on MUTV has said Fergie has stayed too long. Apart from a few supporters, and the presenters/guests haven't agreed with them.</strong><hr></blockquote>


were any of these 'supporters' from manchester?
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Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>actually from what i've seen Richardson is more like Lee Sharpe..


he was awesome even as a fledgling... shame the wanker threw it all away :( </strong><hr></blockquote>

how many e's in lee sharpe ;)

he was fecking great player, still remember that game against the arse at highbury
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Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>actually from what i've seen Richardson is more like Lee Sharpe..

he was awesome even as a fledgling... shame the wanker threw it all away :( </strong><hr></blockquote>

Agreed, but I don't think that Richardson is as good as Sharpe, but that's not an easy thing to be.

And no Neil, I'm not providing an analysis.
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>Maybe Neil should provide us with one of these expert analyses he's so proud of by comparing Chadwick to Beckham and Richardson to Giggs.

How about it Neil, it would make interesting reading. <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" />

Come on Neil, Analyse.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I compared Chadwick to Gillespie.

Richardson has made his Champions League debut and Premiership debut at the age of 17 like Ryan Giggs. He can play central midfield and both wings, though preferring the left - Giggs plays both wings and striker. Richardson has excellent passing, particularly long, is creative, fast, terrific shot, takes free kicks and corners. Plenty of similarities. He's 17 and you've already dismissed him.
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Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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I compared Chadwick to Gillespie.

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no chance!!

gillepie was an exellent kid!

and my fav from that crop..

gillespie was also more like lee sharpe... great pace and great cross...

he's another tosspot who through it all away. <img src="graemlins/annoyed.gif" border="0" alt="[Annoyed]" />
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Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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I compared Chadwick to Gillespie.

Richardson has made his Champions League debut and Premiership debut at the age of 17 like Ryan Giggs. He can play central midfield and both wings, though preferring the left - Giggs plays both wings and striker. Richardson has excellent passing, particularly long, is creative, fast, terrific shot, takes free kicks and corners. Plenty of similarities. He's 17 and you've already dismissed him.</strong><hr></blockquote>


feck me and look what giggs was doing at that age

look at what an impact he had on the team
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Originally posted by RUnited:
<strong>was it the first time he started on the bench?</strong><hr></blockquote>he was on the bench against chelsea, our second best performance in the prem, another coincidence?
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Originally posted by RUDDY:
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were any of these 'supporters' from manchester?</strong><hr></blockquote>


Some were, some weren't. One man who phoned up in an extremely emotional state following the City game was a Manchester man who I guess would have been in his 60s or older.

But if you're saying that makes a difference, then start yet another new thread about outside support.

I've got family who followed United right thru the second division - they had to get up at 4am some mornings to go to places like Carlisle, and they would get home at gone midnight. They went every week, home and away, and it was time consuming, and it was expensive.

Does that make them less dedicated than a local who can have a lie in, have little travelling expenses, and be home in time to have something to eat and then go out for a pint.

Arrogant tosser.
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I never expected Greening to do so well against Liverpool. Gillespie had some good years at Newcastle but never quite fulfilled his potential, and I think Chadwick will be the same. Having said that, he's been a regular in the England U21's side, one of their better players, and put in a much better performance in the mid-week game than Beckham has given this season. If he'd been given more of a chance and made to bulk up more then I think he could have developed more.
 
Originally posted by giggzy:
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oi!


thats becoase SAF wanted Coley badly!!

i think Keiths off field antics, didn't help! ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

And he's set the footballing world on fire since he left us hasn't he? :rolleyes:

;)
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Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>Chadwick is a poor mans giggs IMO.

i agree he needs to bulk up..however if he bulks up too much, he could lose some pace.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Giggs bulked up and he didn't, its only the hamstring troubles he's had thats catching up with him.
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Originally posted by Livvie20:
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Some were, some weren't. One man who phoned up in an extremely emotional state following the City game was a Manchester man who I guess would have been in his 60s or older.

But if you're saying that makes a difference, then start yet another new thread about outside support.

I've got family who followed United right thru the second division - they had to get up at 4am some mornings to go to places like Carlisle, and they would get home at gone midnight. They went every week, home and away, and it was time consuming, and it was expensive.

Does that make them less dedicated than a local who can have a lie in, have little travelling expenses, and be home in time to have something to eat and then go out for a pint.

Arrogant tosser.</strong><hr></blockquote>


why the feck am i a tosser just because i say pearson doesnt have his own mind

i dont really give a shit where people come from as long as they go to most games not just arse,pool and big CL games stopping real reds getting tickets

the manchester comment was because i hadnt seen the show you were talking about and no real red who has seen where fergie has taken us would say such bullshit
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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:eek:

Hey, I like a bit of fire in a lass! :) </strong><hr></blockquote>

:) Well I'm sorry - but that remark of Ruddy's was uncalled for and nothing to do with the topic. And rude.
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Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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Giggs bulked up and he didn't, its only the hamstring troubles he's had thats catching up with him.</strong><hr></blockquote>

he naturally bulked up..with age (not the same thing) i bet he's still only around 10 stone tho'

how can you compare a skinny 17 year old to chadwick who's 22ish?
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Originally posted by RUDDY:
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feck me and look what giggs was doing at that age

look at what an impact he had on the team</strong><hr></blockquote>
Players have different rates of development, and require first team games to improve, but they've both been brilliant in the reserves. Can't believe you've written him off already on the basis of his few initial matches this season. He's not even grown-up yet!
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someone earlier in this thread wasnt happy at some on this board (probably including me) wanting Joaquin and Vicente at the club, saying they were basing their opinions on a couple of games. Well i'm not. I've seen d'allesandro, joaquin and vicente frequently for a while and it is obvious these three players have big futures. I'd love to see them at ot, but that doesnt mean I dont believe in our youth team. People who have read my posts would see i'm all for giving Davis, Timm and Richardson a chance.
 
Originally posted by RUDDY:
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why the feck am i a tosser just because i say pearson doesnt have his own mind

i dont really give a shit where people come from as long as they go to most games not just arse,pool and big CL games stopping real reds getting tickets

the manchester comment was because i hadnt seen the show you were talking about and no real red who has seen where fergie has taken us would say such bullshit</strong><hr></blockquote>


Well that's just the point. Real reds don't have to come to Manchester. But older people - from Manchester - have been phoning in agreeing with Stuart. More supporting him than not.

And the tosser comment was because I resent this constant implication that if you don't come from Manchester you aren't a red.

Tell you what - if only people from Manchester supported United, we'd never have been able to afford Veron in the first place.
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Originally posted by RUDDY:
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why the feck am i a tosser just because i say pearson doesnt have his own mind

i dont really give a shit where people come from as long as they go to most games not just arse,pool and big CL games stopping real reds getting tickets

the manchester comment was because i hadnt seen the show you were talking about and no real red who has seen where fergie has taken us would say such bullshit</strong><hr></blockquote>
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> Are you saying you're Redder than MUTV presenter and FA Cup goal scorer Stuart Pearson as well?
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Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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Players have different rates of development, and require first team games to improve, but they've both been brilliant in the reserves. Can't believe you've written him off already on the basis of his few initial matches this season. He's not even grown-up yet!</strong><hr></blockquote>


read the post mate

ive never written him off

he looks a good player but nothing on giggs at the same age

so your basing this on the stiffs games on MUTV

as for making his debut at a young age can you remember davies who played against gothenberg with becks and scored?

it means nothing
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i think Mancs have a different type of support for United, maybe its more territorial..


and liv, we know you're red, no need to explain yaself. ;)
 
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> Are you saying you're Redder than MUTV presenter and FA Cup goal scorer Stuart Pearson as well?</strong><hr></blockquote>

and where did you get that from?

a proper red who works for that woeful channel is andy whos knows what hes talking about

where do they put him? reds @ feckin 5 with a muppet
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Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>i think Mancs have a different type of support for United, maybe its more territorial..


and liv, we know you're red, no need to explain yaself. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>


Not explaining myself. Just fed up with being made to feel like a second=rate supporter because I don't come from Manchester.

And finances being what they are, I can't afford to go to games - but if I had the choice of one game to go to at OT, I'd feckin' well choose Liverpool or Arsenal. And if I lived in Manchester I'd make sure I had a ticket for every game as soon as they were on sale, so there's no reason that regulars can't get tickets imo.
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Originally posted by RUDDY:
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read the post mate

ive never written him off

he looks a good player but nothing on giggs at the same age

so your basing this on the stiffs games on MUTV

as for making his debut at a young age can you remember davies who played against gothenberg with becks and scored?

it means nothing</strong><hr></blockquote>
How many players do make their debuts at 17 and make a sensation? Wayne Rooney, Michael Owen, and not many others. O'Shea I hope we all agree is a great talent. He came in much later than 17.
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Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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How many players do make their debuts at 17 and make a sensation? Wayne Rooney, Michael Owen, and not many others. O'Shea I hope we all agree is a great talent. He came in much later than 17.</strong><hr></blockquote>

your the one going on about how hes made his debut so young so he must be good
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Originally posted by RUDDY:
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and where did you get that from?

a proper red who works for that woeful channel is andy whos knows what hes talking about

where do they put him? reds @ feckin 5 with a muppet</strong><hr></blockquote>
That woeful channel shows every single United game, including all the first team, reserves and highlights of the Academy sides. You can't watch more United games in any other way.
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Originally posted by Livvie20:
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Not explaining myself. Just fed up with being made to feel like a second=rate supporter because I don't come from Manchester.

And finances being what they are, I can't afford to go to games - but if I had the choice of one game to go to at OT, I'd feckin' well choose Liverpool or Arsenal. And if I lived in Manchester I'd make sure I had a ticket for every game as soon as they were on sale, so there's no reason that regulars can't get tickets imo.</strong><hr></blockquote>


easy, move to manchester!! ;)
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Originally posted by giggzy:
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easy, move to manchester!! ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Nice idea. But not easy unfortunately.
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Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> Are you saying you're Redder than MUTV presenter and FA Cup goal scorer Stuart Pearson as well?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Strange comment that, because you seem to think that yourself and Pearson are both redder than the 7 times league title winner, ECWC winner, EC winner, 4 times FA Cup winner, ESC winner, ICC winner, etc.

Wierd!
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Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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That woeful channel shows every single United game, including all the first team, reserves and highlights of the Academy sides. You can't watch more United games in any other way.</strong><hr></blockquote>

and if they left it at that then it would be a good channel
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Originally posted by RUDDY:
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your the one going on about how hes made his debut so young so he must be good</strong><hr></blockquote>
Also:
Silvestre: "He wasn't fazed about it at all.

"He was in good condition. He was really prepared in his mind and was ready for that game. He showed no fear.

"He has been training with the first team for a couple of weeks and I think he has handled that really well."

"It was good to see them being involved in training and afterwards we saw in the game in Cyprus that they are good enough to play for United.

"It is amazing that some of them were playing Champions League football at the age of 18 and I think they enjoyed that a lot."

And Alex Ferguson said:
"Kieran is a brave little lad and showed that with the goal he scored.

"He put his head among the boots and bodies and can be very pleased with himself.

"He enjoyed the experience and showed he has the temperament to handle the big occasion."
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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Strange comment that, because you seem to think that yourself and Pearson are both redder than the 7 times league title winner, ECWC winner, EC winner, 4 times FA Cup winner, ESC winner, ICC winner, etc.

Wierd!</strong><hr></blockquote>


Fergie isn't infallible. We might like to think so, but he isn't. What he is, is incredibly stubborn.

I'd love to see a poll of United supporters on what system we should use. And who should play.
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Originally posted by Livvie20:
<strong>Fergie isn't infallible.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I never said he was. Just better at what he does than any of us could ever be.
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